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  1. I see a tweet from @LedZepNews that Francis and the one attorney for Zeppelin were back at it again in San Francisco at the United States court of appeals 9th district. Same ol' Stairway vs Taurus copyright stuff. I thought this whole thing was dead and buried? Francis is still a worm in a suit. I forgot how douche baggy he is.
  2. I wish we could hear from John Paul Jones from time to time. It's all always Page or Plant being asked Led Zeppelin stuff. I know most Zep related things go to Page first for obvious reasons, but it feels like Jones is never included. Over all the interviews these guys have given, I have found Jones the one who just answers easy and simple. "What time is it Jones?" "1:30 pm" Robert speaks in riddles and games with his answer where you can speculate all 24 hours in the day as to the time and Page answers with a vague statement that goes around in a circle unrelated to the question. In other words Jimmy and Plant's answers always turn into a speculation thread of no actual info about anything. I am seeing that now in relation to their 50th anniversary about what could happen. Hahaha and yes I too have contributed to those specs. But anyways just wish somebody in the media would talk to Jones and ask him some stuff about his old band and what might be happening. He'd probably be a bit more straight forward.
  3. Speaking of Ronnie. Maybe it's only me who thinks this, but in the handful of interviews I have heard with Ronnie, he always has this tone that's he's not an official Stones member. I can't pin point it exactly, because it's not a bold statement, rather his attitude. Whenever he's asked about playing with the Mick and Keith, he acts like he's still a newbie or a rookie that should be in awe that he's been asked play with the cool kids. The word inferior comes to mind. He speaks the way Jason Bonham would about Led Zeppelin; how it's a great honor and privilege to have been invited to play with a legendary band and musicians - which is rather over the top in Ronnie's case since he's been in the band for over 43 years. Do Mick and Keith contribute to this? I'm under that impression in a way. Those above who mention Keith's ego - Yes agreed too!
  4. Keith is talking out of both sides of his mouth, or at least I felt that way at first. He says Jimmy Page is one of the most brilliant guitarist he's ever known, yet he's not impressed with Led Zeppelin. Whaaattt!?!? Page's guitar work IS Led Zeppelin. That brilliancy was demonstrated in Zep's music. How can you give such a compliment only to yank it away Keith?!? Well for me I have to compare his comments to how I view Adele. I think she has a gifted and beautiful voice, but I have ZERO desire to listen to her songs. Her music does nothing for me. I know she's extremely popular, and her voice is very powerful, but nope nada no enjoyment from her albums. It is possible to find a guitarist or singer very talented, yet get nothing in return from their music. Strange as that sounds. Now here comes the tomatoes ready to be thrown at my head if your more pro Keith than Jimmy. I do think there is a form of jealousy. Keith has made his name in music, so you could say he has no reason to be. Sadly for the these guys their egos rear their ugly heads for whatever reason. Maybe as an artist Keith hasn't been as influential on the guitar as Page has been to those guitarist that followed afterwards? How many people picked up a guitar because of Jimmy Page verses Keith Richards? This comparison between The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin. Why? How do you compare these two bands fairly? The Stones have 55 years under their belt with writing, recording and touring across the world. Over half of a century!!! Zeppelin had 12. The Stones have been able maximize their exposure because of the longevity of the band. People in the 80s 90s 20s at some time have been exposed to the Stones purposely or not. Each decade granted them a new way to connect with fans. 80s/90s MTV music video era, American award shows, and hellooo the internet! I can't face these two groups off. There are too many factors that make the playing field uneven. The window of comparison imo is small. British guys all kind of influenced by black American musicians, 40s decade born, frontmen who pranced and sashayed about wearing really really tight stuff around their genitals and smack addicted guitarists. The rest is off the table for me.
  5. ^^ Very true! Well then I have no clue what events could take place. Page has retired from playing in public and Robert declines all ideas of working with the other two. All of that is fine, but it does not leave much in the way of big events. 2012 brought them over here to accept the Kennedy award and also Celebration promoting correct? Wait and see eh!
  6. What are these high profile events Page is talking about? Where would these events take place? I'm guessing home for them in the UK. Is there a UK version of America's Kennedy Center Honors? Celebs and people with money hanging out in a venue talking about what Led Zeppelin brought to the music scene over the past 50 years. We know they are not playing together!
  7. Is this going to be basically Jimmy on his own plugging whatever they have planned for the 50th or will Plant and Jones also be promoting? It's been what 2012 since all 3 sat down and did a joint project together. That was for the Celebration release right? Looks like nothing 'official' will start until Sept 2018 according to @LedZepNews on Twitter.
  8. I can believe it's father and son, but damn something about the photo looks doctored. When you ENLARGE the picture the sunglasses look more like something has been blacked out and not symmetrical eye wear, and his one hand looks fake. If it's due to the transformation of a 50 year old image from black and white into color, than I say he's rocking a wig. With all the online images there are of Bonham, wouldn't there be others of him and this faux 'fro? A curling iron and hairspray wouldn't work. Only a chemcical perm using rods would achieve an afro style with his type of hair. This would mean he would have been sporting an afro for a couple of months - hence the word 'permanent'. Cool photo regardless tho!
  9. OP: Did you put this collection together?? A fair amount are Jimmy, albeit many are repetitive screen captures from videos on Youtube. Others are definitely not him. For example image number 12 and 32. (12) Most Led Zeppelin fans have common knowledge that Page has never been in the military. Why would he be in the United States Marine Corps? Besides the obvious of it being an American branch. You don't exactly look at Page and say Oorah (32) Jimmy Page and Opie Taylor look-a-like are not the same people. The boy standing with the baby and young girl with his pants rolled up above the ankles looks like a kid whose parents make moonshine in the Appalachian mountain region of West Virginia. I'm all for moonshine and Semper Fi in case somebody mistook my comments as negative!
  10. On the subject of Jason Bonham. I know things like addiction whether cigs, alcohol or drugs can be genetic or influenced by who you surround yourself with, so I'm not surprised Jason in his youth was this loud mouth drunk, but in some of these interviews it sounds like he was told that imitating 'road' John was what he was supposed to do and not because he himself was an actual bar stool throwing drunk. John while touring with Zep had that reputation - off the road not so much. Jason was what.. 15 when his father died. He should know there was more than just THAT side. It's as if he picked up a Richard Cole type book on Led Zeppelin tales and started acting out the John Bonham bits - TV tossing and all. I dunno maybe I'm not making sense. Let's blame it on this fish bowl sized glass of Cabernet I'm drinking. Ha! As far as Jason's talent as a drummer. One thing we know for sure is John Bonham was a big lovin' family guy. After the Oakland incident involving Peter Grant's son, I think at one point in John Bonham's life he would have no issues introducing his fist to somebody's face if they said something insulting about his sons skills as a drummer Yikes! To the original poster. I probably gave my answer already, but if not. Yes I believe they made the best choice to end when John died.
  11. Stairway To Heaven legal shit again? I saw this movie in June of 2016. I liked the ending, however I don't want to see the sequel. Skidmore, the two sisters and Francis...Siiiighhh. Judge Klausner gave them their shot. A very generous one allowing it to actually get its day in court too. They had opportunity to gather evidence and present it. What more should the jury take into consideration? Get another Spirit fan to testify they saw what they believed was a raccoon pawing and eating Randy's garbage only to realize 50 years later it was actually Jimmy looking for music compositions to steal. Or maybe Skidmore swears up and down he saw an evergreen bush beside an outdoor toilet at a Spirit gig and he believes it was in the shape of Robert Plant. That would tell the jury Plant was listening to their set-list and getting musical ideas to lift and take back to camp Zep. Guilty right!?!? Oh and Randy's sisters. I'm sure they are Skidmore's biggest cheerleaders. I need to take a moment and vent about those two. Those women are wolves in sheep's clothing. No disrespect aimed at Randy for losing his life to save is son; that's both tragic and very heroic, but in a music copyright case it has no spot in the trial. There is no reason for the jury to know that, other than to try and garner sympathy votes. Last June both sister's stood outside the court house speaking to the media while holding up a gigantic picture of Randy with their mother. It was quite obvious what they were hoping to achieve. They wanted to vilify Led Zeppelin as these wealthy stealing musicians and small little folk like Randy California deserved some of that money all because his life ended tragically in the 90s and a 'charity' is in his name. They wanted people to draw some sort of connecting line between the two. Sorry there isn't a line between Stairway writing credits, the type of son or father Randy California was, or how he passed away. Like I said above a very heroic act regarding his son, but quite skeevy to use it as a way to get a pay-day. I am glad Judge Klausner made sure that had no impact on the jury's decision. The decision was based on musical notes on a paper. If someone is deserving by all means give them their reward, but we don't have that here do we. This case just rubs you the wrong way, especially when you read Francis and is merry band are STILL at it after the jury ruled in Zep's favor. Here's hoping this is one very last desperate attempt from that side that will go unanswered.
  12. I thought so too before I started reading things over the years. I never thought Jones and Plant had an overly close relationship outside of the studio though. Page and Plant that's a different story. But it didn't matter who hung out with who since they all came together on the stage and that's where it counted most. As far as them working closely for I T T O D. I wanna say the drug circle of hell that Page and Bonham were trapped inside of, probably helped push Robert and Jones together. You never hear either say anything fondly about working together at that time. Depending on the interview whenever Jones speaks about I T T O D he never praises it. He doesn't bash it to death either, but several times you can tell by some of his words it doesn't come across like it was a high point in his Zep timeline. It's hard to tell if he means the album itself, the fact Page and Bonham were in bad shape or all above. Maybe that's when he came to realize he and Robert clashed too much. Not as noticeable when all 4 were working regularly together. I wish I could remember where I saw it. An interview where he takes his words back a couple of times and made it sound like the album would have turned out differently if circumstances had been different. I think he could tell the interviewer was about to take his initial words and ask "Was I T T O D a disappointment for you or the band? Because he very quickly added in the record happened the way it did because of his new toy and both Robert and he had already had several tracks laid out. Then usual babble we get with how I T T O D came to be.
  13. Knock knock knock hello? Anybody.. I was half kidding when I brought it up, but nah now I want to know. Any story behind the naked plastic doll thing pinned to Jimmy's lapel in the above image. I don't care make one up if you have to. HA!
  14. That in my mind very much continues today - even though the whole Page /Plant work relationship was over years ago. James Patrick puts all of his eggs into the Zeppelin basket and that puts the end to any activity with other musical artists - especially Robert. On No Quarter if Jones had been involved, I don't think Jimmy would have cared if people mistakenly identified or attached Zep's name to it either. (I know it wasn't) That would have only been corrected for Plant. There would have been so many rules though, or Plant would have put the end to it. Speaking of Jonesy being upset still. In the interview that was linked on here a short bit ago he was saying how happy he was to be working with Jimmy again. This was after London O2 of course. That made me sigh ************************************************************************ Reading through some old threads on here I noticed our opinions can and do change. The Jones No Quarter thing has some who were understanding of why Plant did what he did, turn around later and see it as something rather off-putting. Perhaps views may have changed after Plant said he wouldn't be a part of whatever Jimmy, Jones and Jason had cooking. This was a golden opportunity and AGAIN Plant played the roll of giant party pooper. I'll shut up because as much I see those who nit pick on the lack of Jimmy output these days, the other side (like me ) are guilty of pointing the finger at Plant for something. Original poster! Well done! The board often becomes a snooze atmosphere and sometimes a topic like this can spark a lively opinionated conversation!
  15. I think these questions get brought up by those who maybe like the idea of hearing thoughts from other Zeppelin fans on the actual Zeppelin board rather than Google random sites. Sometimes asking on here is so much better since a lot of you guys can provide fantastic info. I don't overly believe somebody is asking in hopes of getting people riled up. I don't think there was ever a "Jones and Plant" thing even with the making of In Through The Out Door. That was smoke and mirrors. They were working more closely in the studio opposed to Page and Plant because Jimmy was in bed with smack. Bonham too was in bad shape As to why Jones was not included? It was never meant to be a reunion and having Jones there would have made it that way. I think it hit a sour notes because they worked on Zeppelin songs.... songs that Jones had a hand in writing. I do believe Page would have been fine with Jones being a part of the No Quarter project, but at that time he probably didn't want to rock the boat with Plant. I read an interview AFTER the O2 from Jones. Like Strider says, it took time and Jones wasn't happy, but he said he has moved on and it's now water under the bridge.
  16. Yeah I can't find anything either. Maybe it fell through. Does he want or need the bands approval on some aspects?? I would assume in order to give an accurate documentary you would include events about the 4 of them, otherwise it could be spotty. Hopefully it's not a forgotten project.
  17. Robert at the very least was able to get on musically a lot faster than Page was after Bonham's death. Jimmy between 80 and 83 was so sickly Some of the photos taken of Page in those years are sad to see. Haha I say some and not all because hey sue me, I can always find something appealing about the dude even during those dark years. I wonder what Bonham would have done musically if he had lived. I kind of get the feeling he would have enjoyed just chillin' at home with Pat and when the call came to revive the band for a reunion he would have gladly joined in after some rest. I can't picture him doing a solo project. Although his voice in my opinion was quite decent.
  18. ^^^ So true MikeZep61. I guess I didn't think of that. I was judging Miami in 2017, but you're so right, the venues they could have possibly played in came along years after Zep. Thanks for the answers people
  19. Alright so people are discussing lost shows and mystery gigs. I don't know where to put this. The search function doesn't come up with anything that answers my question and I don't have extensive knowledge of their tours like S A J and some others do. What is the reason Led Zeppelin never added the city of Miami to their US tours? A huge metropolis and cosmopolitan city, with the venues to accomodate large sporting events and musical concerts. They certainly had the demographic to support them as well, sooo what gives? Were they worried about drugs? That's the only thing I can come up with and that's pretty weak considering they played in California where the flow up illegal stuff ran freely from Mexico.
  20. Nope I knew you what you were referring to with Plant. He has shown that he doesn't need to fall back on his Zeppelin roots to survive in the music world....or has he? He sure likes to have his set list be filled with Zeppelin. And to be honest I think if he could sing them like like did 40 years ago he would. Okay I need to stop while I'm ahead. We have 1000 threads dedicated to Robert mucking up the reunion. I'm sitting firmly on the side that says blame Plant for that. Even though there was never a promise , somebody has to be the scapegoat and he's the fall guy for me. Not Page. Not Jones The one thing I would have liked to have seen from Zeppelin if they had taken a hiatus and came back is the introduction to some extra musicians. It would always be originally a 4 man group, but from time to time a few extra bodies for some songs would not have hurt.
  21. What a prickly mess. Why does Plant need his solo career to be bigger than Led Zeppelin? Is his ego that delicate? Does he despise the fact the largest part of his musical career is forever glued to Jimmy? He doesn't want to admit his highest achievements in music stem from something he can no longer recapture? I'm guessing here. What's interesting is he won several Grammy's with Alison, but even with that media was still addressing him as the "Former Lead Singer of Led Zeppelin." It does not mean his output as a solo artist was not successful, however when you think of Robert Plant your first thought is Zeppelin - Not solo artist, or front guy for the Space Shifters or Band of Joy singer. Those are more of a "And don't forget Mr. Plant was part of these musical projects too!!" That must irk Robert, I don't believe Plant tuned down a 2008 reunion tour out of respect for Bonzo. If he did John Bonham would be rollin' in his grave. The bands breakup in 1980 yes most definitely fit that criteria - but not 35 plus years later. My god if Bonzo could speak from the grave, I bet he would be absolutely giddy to see Jason as the drummer for Zeppelin. In fact anybody who would tell John Bonham you know it's disrespectful for your memory is getting a few dirty looks from the sky. Everyone knows how vital his role was in the band. Having the 3 play with his son does not weaken that and Plant is crazy if he thought Bonzo would agree with that. I do hate that Plant is this weird ass form of an Achilles Heel for Jimmy. Because really he is. Jimmy would come out of retirement if Plant said: Call up Jones and Jason and strap on the double neck. Then again Plant has his strangeness too. He loves to sing Zeppelin songs and have his set list be full of the Zep catalogue as long as nobody in his band are former Zeppelin members. Was there not an invitation from Robert for Jimmy to work with him post O2, but the stipulation was it couldn't be anything related to Zeppelin-ish sounding music? I could be crossing wires with that though. Forgive me.
  22. Aw silly Jimbo. What is with the little naked plastic doll on his lapel?
  23. Everyone probably has their own feelings on when things were going sour for Led Zeppelin. I tag the dinosaur comment at bit later in Zep's timeline. When Physical Graffiti was written and released it was when all cylinders were clicking. The material for P G is phenomenal and they had just introduced their very own record label Swan Song. They were in a good place then. The negative would be the tax exile situation that was surfacing its ugly head for those who called England home. The terrible black cloud of doom that some say started to follow the band around had not surfaced at that point. I know after Robert's car accident in 1975 things were rocky, however that was after Physical Graffiti had been written and released and they did manage to climb back up on the horse in 1976 to put together Presence, even though some cracks were starting to show. 1977 onward with the hiring of goon Bindon which in return created the Oakland fiasco. The excessive use of drugs from top to bottom in the entire Zeppelin camp. I know drugs were always a pivotal part of musicians life, but it wasn't wearing its toll on members the way it did come 1977. The dinosaur comment I always align with Knebworth and the things that came after that. In Through The Out Door and 1980 in Europe. Robert probably grew tired of it all during the latter part of 1977. A parent losing a child is obviously going to take a huge toll mentally and physically on your body. That was when the kingdom started to crumble for Robert.
  24. Thank you for explaining Balthazor!!! 3 months is not nearly long enough for him.
  25. http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37014778 Link provided by @LedZepNews via Twitter Help me understand why Francis is giving statements regarding the current status of the case, when he is suspended for 6 months. I don't understand how he can be the one representing the plaintiff at this point. Is he only suspended in a certain US state? For example: Filing legal documents like an appeal from Chicago IL is allowed. Standing inside a courtroom with his large pie hole flapping in Los Angeles CA is not.
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