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nemophilist

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  1. For years I thought the same thing. I still do to an extent, it's certainly a better and more powerful song, one of my all time favorites. And the performance certainly is one of their best. But Hats off has grown on me a lot over the years. It is a good closer but Hey Hey is certainly better. I guess I like the philosophical approach behind putting hats off on that particular album.
  2. I agree. 77 had a few great shows (based off of recordings), some decent ones and a good amount of bad shows. It's one of those things where their past greatness puts higher expectations on them especially in hindsight. I'm sure being there in person is a much better experience than listening to a bootleg 40 years later. But from what I've heard most of 1980 is really sloppy and the truth is most of that is on Jimmy's lackluster playing. I don't know if he would have improved himself by that US tour. If anything you'd have to say that his playing got sloppier as the years passed. Whether it's from his addictions of other distractions. So the odds are that 1981 might've been just as bad or sloppier in a live setting.
  3. I know what you mean about Plant, I think he sounded good but he probably wasn't 100% in to it like pre-77. The whole atmosphere of the band changed. I know it was at the suggestion of Robert that they shortened songs but I think as an artist one of the worst things you can do is go with the latest trends. Zeppelin is timeless and it's a shame that they kind of tried to fit in with the 80s music trajectory. They should have just been themselves. Although I would not be surprised if Robert wanted songs shortened because he thought Jimmy and Bonham weren't in playing shape to pull off something that wouldn't be embarrassing. Especially Jimmy who sounded like he wasn't practicing much. I know in his prime Jimmy stated he routinely practiced for 3 hours a day. You can clearly hear that in his playing Pre-77. I'm sure his addiction distracted him from practicing. So being really hammered + not practicing heavily/being distracted= you should not do extended solos and jams.
  4. Ehh don't really think they sound like Zeppelin too much musically, I can see the influence though. The theremin section in Gipsy Hollow is probably most like Zeppelin in terms of feel. The guitarists lead style kind of reminds of Slash a bit though, as well as his tone. I think their song way out of town is probably most like Zeppelin in my personal opinion. But it still doesn't give me that feeling I get when I listen to Zeppelin. As I said I hear the influence though. I think bands like Elder are closer to Zeppelin in approach than bands like this one and Greta Van Fleet. I think these guys are better than Greta though, interested to see what else they release.
  5. Did you hear the newest song? It was just uploaded today.
  6. Personally I love that they've incorporated other elements other than just great stoner rock. But that's just me. My personal favorite is Lore, as an overall album. But I do love all of their releases. I'm excited to see what direction they head with their upcoming release entitled Omens. I think it comes out in late April. Possibly the 24th?
  7. Been really in to this band lately. Definitely pushing the boundaries of Stoner Rock/Sludge Metal in to the realms of psychedelic and post rock. I connect with them a lot as a writer as my music is a bit similar in approach and style some when I heard them I felt a kinship. They're definitely a diverse stoner rock band. Personally I think they've made some of the coolest songs I've ever heard. They even do extended jams like Zeppelin. I can definitely hear some Led Zeppelin/Black Sabbath influence in their music. I thought this performance of theirs was quite good. Give it a listen. From 9:22 to 10:30 is just magic, very creative and unique guitar parts. Well their entire catalog is creative but that section is a personal favorite of mine. They play 2 songs here, first one is like 11-12 minutes long but you gotta give it a listen! Goes through a lot of changes. It's criminal how bands like this are so unknown, these guys should be getting the praise Greta Van Fleet gets.
  8. That is actually a genius idea! I don't like reality TV but that sounds like a great show. It would be hilarious. They'd all get so pissy. Maybe they could make it based on a tour in that van, like a small club tour within the New England/New York area. They could document the tour in the manner you describe.
  9. If any of you dig bands like Nirvana or early Foo Fighters you might enjoy some of the tracks off this album... It's actually my older brothers band. He and I are 12 years apart and it's a huge reason why I wanted to be a musician from a very early age. They recorded this back in 1998 and It's the first time it's been shared online. I put together the video.They had quite a run, toured the continental US multiple times and had a pretty good following back then. I wrote a short bio for them which is in the description box along with a time stamped track listing so you can skip through tracks easier. I love hearing new music so I always like sharing these kinds of things on forums. My favorites are tracks 2 through 5, and tracks 8 and 10. Hope you guys enjoy it as much as I do!
  10. Depends what I'm playing. When I'm playing my own electric material it's a mix of stoner rock, swedish death metal and progressive metal (like Opeth) so I use Guitar Boomers 10-60 gauge because I bounce between B and C Standard. If I'm playing classic rock I usually go for some light Ernie Ball Slinkys, usually either 8, 9 or 10 gauge. Acoustically I use D'Addarios.
  11. Well Jimmy could release something instrumental like John Paul Jones. You don't need vocals over music. Personally I prefer instrumentals. In fact I'm sure JPJ and Jason would work with Jimmy on something with a name other than Led Zeppelin on instrumental music. John Paul Jones certainly would have in the past. Jimmy could also (if he really wanted to) release an album of acoustic instrumentals like Bert Jansch or Roy Harper. He could also not say there's going to be new music next year, year after year. It's more so that which gets to people.
  12. Oh I knew you were haha! I was just saying. Definitely a missed opportunity on their part.
  13. Just look at the great and creative material Jones came up with for his two solo albums which came out right around the same time Page and Plant were touring and recorded walking into clarksdale. If they all collaborated it would've been quite a good album whereas Clarksdale is just okay. It's not like Jonesy was trying to recreate Zeppelin (which Robert is against), he totally expanded on it while the essence and spirit of his influence upon Zeppelin is still felt.
  14. It's a lot of practice at any age to go from not playing consistently to trying to get back to a level at which you could perform the material he's created and not mess up too much. I know a lot of us would love to see him do something acoustic but his acoustic style is arguably just as hard or harder to play than some of the leads he's recorded, obviously depending on the song. White Summer/Black Mountain is one that requires a lot of constant practice, as well as Going to California and Bron Yr Aur. That kind of practice isn't always fun because it's tedious especially when you have such a passionate investment in your art and you know at one time you were at a level which is very hard to get back to, especially at 75 years old. Sometimes one can feel very frustrated and unfulfilled when you can't get back to that level and at his age he probably just doesn't have the motivation to go through that. It's totally understandable, he's achieved so much creatively. I just don't get why he keeps stating he intends to release solo material when there seems to be no evidence that he intends to.
  15. Yeah it would be awesome to see more footage of that show!
  16. You guys should check out this band as well. I think they're pretty great. Check out the first song on the album. The vocalist might not have the ability of the singer from Greta but I think the songwriting is pretty great. It's heavier but it certainly has it's roots in Zeppelin and Sabbath.
  17. Welcome to the forum man. Have you ever listened to the entirety of the first Wolfmother album released in like 2006? I think they did a great job of capturing the spirit of the 70's on that album. I think there's some good songwriting. People also called them Zeppelin and Black Sabbath rip offs when they came out. There was obviously some influence but I think they were very much their own thing.
  18. I think they're talented players but their entire persona comes off as totally manufactured. Likewise their songwriting really isn't good (in my opinion of course) and their latest album was really over-produced (like almost every album these days by any band or artist). There are a number of more underground acts that capture the spirit of the 70's better and expand on it a bit. I think the first two albums by The Sword are a good example just off the top of my head, although they do have some thrash influence. I still think the closest a mainstream act has come in the last 15 years is the first Wolfmother album. I think in regards to songwriting that album is far more superior to anything I've heard by Fleet. I really have tried to like them, I've listened to them numerous times and they just come off as very fake. They're like the Jones Brothers if they tried to go 70''s rock. I do hope they improve though. I also really don't think they sound like Zeppelin aside from the vocalists voice (at times, at other times he kind of sounds like Ms.Piggy doing an impression of Geddy Lee).But there is no doubt he can do an uncanny plant impersonation. In my opinion it would be like saying AC/DC sounds like Led Zeppelin, obviously there are some very vague similarities instrumentally but when you really listen to their albums they are vastly different. It actually annoys me a bit when I see people calling them Zep rip offs because they really aren't anything like Led Zeppelin musically aside from a little bit of influence on a solo or a drum fill. I think Greta has a lot of industry hype and very little songwriting substance.
  19. No doubt about that, humor is the best icebreaker. In my post I just meant not to taking things so seriously when they don't really matter that much. Coming on here is just some fun and entertainment talking about something most of us love. Just to reply to the first part. Well when it comes to web censorship and this entire singularity movement that is being majorly funded through the defense department and silicon valley to connect/interface brains to the internet/download information directly to the mind, it certainly does become that serious. And it's not just in the US, it's pretty much international. Not saying it's for certain, just saying that those with the wealth to steer society are taking it in that direction. I just see all of these calls for censorship (not the original poster, just in general) and i'm aware of the amount of money and infrastructure being poured into what I was talking about and if censorship takes place on certain subject matters it could lead to that. Essentially any such connection could lead to that but especially with web-censorship.
  20. As I said In the statement you highlighted, I totally agree with that. But I just don't agree that it's hateful. People just have subjective opinions. I really don't see too many people just intentionally making stuff up about Zeppelin members on here. Most of it is shot down because many of us on here have read up on the band a lot over the years. But no doubt about the moderators having the right to censor whatever they like on their website. Generally speaking though in the public domain nothing should be censored unless it's libel. But If the mods did go around subjectively censoring what they arbitrarily deem hateful or untrue then things could get extremely boring on here for people that want to know more about the band members and discuss certain topics. Part of the problem is that In the world of Zeppelin there really isn't much happening so most of what happens on here is open discussion on the history of every single member, past shows and all of that. One thing that says a lot about Zeppelin's timelessness is the fact that the band hasn't played since 2007 and this forum still has a pretty good amount of activity. Many forums (especially band forums) across the web are pretty desolate these days.
  21. I wouldn't call someone else's opinion hate. Truth, or differing bits of information, is not hateful in the slightest. Just because the facts, theories or information espoused might behold unpleasant information does not make it hateful. When you can take someone's negatives (as realistically every single member in the band has, just like everyone else) and still love them, that is the literal epitome of unconditional love. Many people on here have differing opinions (sometimes negatives) but everyone loves the band in their own way. To erase history and create an echo chamber/ feed back loop is basically asking for everyone to be hooked up to the hive mind/borg. We might as well be biological artificial intelligence at that point with the internet or some other awareness dictating all of our thoughts. At that point we are a programmed slave species. This entire mindset that someone who states something that is either quite possibly or definitely factual but isn't pleasant=hate.... could possibly be the literal end of freedom of thought, expression and ultimately consciousness. Of course not in the realm of a led zeppelin forum, but it does reflect a mindset pervading modern human society internationally. Even if something is totally unrealistic that doesn't mean someone should be silenced. People can discern reality for themselves. Imagine if this mindset was so pervasive when something like cigarettes were still considered healthy by the government and the mainstream scientific/medical establishment? I do agree that some people on here have unrealistic expectations for band members, can be both unnecessarily and overly-negative, can be unconsciously judgmental, can act very entitled and in some instances probably don't even understand the band. But that's their right and it actually makes things interesting. I totally respect what others feel and believe and in regards to something as harmless as a Zep forum, I love seeing other peoples opinions. Do I think certain people on here have some really dumb or ignorant opinions? Of course, but that doesn't make them hateful nor does it make me dread coming on here. It makes it interesting and highlights the infinite expressions of humanity. If something bothers you then maybe you should exert your will over your reflex action of distaste and just learn to laugh it off. Because quite honestly I find some of what people say on here (in regards to certain topics) to be quite funny. People really need to see the humorous side of things more often and stop being so impulsively sensitive. Or you could also just stop reading their comments because no one is forcing you to read through the forum. If you can't hear unpleasant facts, or possibilities about something how do you ever expect to learn the truth about anything? I hope you're not like this when it comes to history or politics. In the realm of led zeppelin it obviously doesn't matter but I'm just stating that it could possibly reflect a mindset that literally can't cope with reality and rationalize it, or in some cases differing bits of information that might expose something unpleasant. Or I should probably say that it's similar to a mindset that many people express. Obviously I don't know you personally so I really don't mean this in an absolute way, I'm just commenting on this particular post. Think of it this way, Led Zeppelin has had such a profoundly positive effect on all of us that we want to feel like we know the members because we've all felt so connected with them through their music. Can that get annoying for the members of the band?At times, Probably, but it comes with such widespread success and I'm sure they wouldn't change the fact that people feel so connected. That's what happens when you create something timeless. So in a way you should really see these things as a positive, because they are reflections of something that is positive which is the music of Led Zeppelin. On the forum people are just responding and innocently discussing information they have heard about the band, as well as opinions about certain performances. Yet Robert, John and Jimmy are seemingly doing just fine living the lives they want to live. I'm sure they couldn't care less about what anyone is saying on here and i'm sure they'd probably find some of it as humorous as I do.
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