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Boleskinner

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  1. Can't let it go, can you. Have to reply with another insult. I put forward my reasons: specifically that you thought scraping a 50 per cent return on companion tracks was acceptable and I thought, along with many other fans, that it wasn't and the release was a major disappointment. To rationalise your argument you had to go to the lengths of creating a convoluted key system with ratings. When it comes to the point when your creating keys and tables and graphs to judge music, then you've lost the argument already. As I said, "music is judged with emotion and gut feeling" not pie charts and protractors. What's next a gantt chart to justify Page's musical inactivity.
  2. I've put forward my logical argument, if you want to resort to personal insult, because you don't have a counter argument, then that's up to you. But I'm not resorting to mud slinging. We'll need to agree to disagree.
  3. You also say, "But having revisited all 67 of the companion tracks (excluding the live Paris show companion to Zep I), my argument is that about half of them - just over 30 - are very worthwhile." So we're scraping a 50 per cent return rate on tracks. That's a crap return in any walk of life. You can produce all the graphs, pie charts and "analysis" you like, but people listen with their ears, and music is judged with emotion and gut feeling, not with contrived arguments used to rationalise an underwhelming release.
  4. And the Titanic had a great dessert trolley. I see where you're coming from, but this argument is like when I periodically re-visit WIC and want to love it, but I can't, and I try to rationalise that it's better than it actually is, because it's Page and Plant. AS the OP, I stand by my original opinion, that the remasters was a missed opportunity and it could have been so much better. WIP material in its best possible quality would have shone a light on the creative process far better than a mix with a slightly louder tambourine. We waited decades for the mother-lode; and got a happy meal instead.
  5. A pub band - are you on the glue? Yeah, when I pop down to the "Duck and Beaver" for a jar, I often see "Cover Magic" playing Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da and think, God, this is just like Zep at the forum in '77. Seriously, no offence, bu that post was laughable.
  6. Agree with Coverdale's sentiment apart from the above. Opportunity is not the issue.
  7. Zep weren't heavy metal, but they were the catalyst for it, and one could argue that was the greatest change they made to popular music (a dubious honour if you ask me). It's undeniable that Zep are now omnipresent in rock, but to say they changed the course of popular music, like the Beatles, is a step too far for me. I would say that Peter Grant revolutionised the management side of rock by demanding higher cuts of albums royalties and touring receipts, etc. He was far more of a game changer and innovator.
  8. My favourite of his solo albums. Voice in top form, great songs and great musicians, especially Blunt, Collins and Powell. Even the album cover is pretty cool and the production is very clear after the muddy ITTOD. A great summer new wave/rock album.
  9. I think the last thing Plant wants to do is talk about classic Zep albums for a documentary series. Anyway, they pretty much covered that in a radio documentary narrated by alan fluff freeman back in 1990 to coincide with the first remasters. Will be interesting to see how they broach the whole anniversary affair. zep are unconventional. If it's a limited edition signed print from jimmys website, then....
  10. LOL. Maybe if it was a doco on The Band it would work. A doco doesn't excite me at all, for all the reasons listed above.Nowadays with YouTube, we have an archive of all the interviews anyway. Plus, Page is a poor interviewee. Not really up for a laugh and never wants to deviate from the "We were so good" line. Plant will probably be touring the new album next year, so he might be tempted to do some 50th promotional stuff to boost his profile and ticket sales for his solo gigs. The only commemoration I would get excited about would be a live compilation 75-80.
  11. After 1973 he lost a lot of fluency in his playing. He acquired "Sticky fingers" and never fully got the fluency back. For me, 73 is his peak, because he still had the fluency and had the HOTH material to draw on, which was more diverse than previous albums. The 75, 77 and Copenhagen 79 shows had their moments, but a compilation of the best bits of each tour would suffice for me.
  12. If you look at the clips used to make the Travelling Riverside Blues video and the MTV special in 1990, there all from known existing pro-sources, i.e. Seattle, Earls Court, TSRTS, Danish TV, etc. Then when the live DVD was released in 2003 I remember Page putting feelers out to bootleggers and people for extra footage. Again all pro footage on the DVD is from concerts we know were taped. My point is that based on this, anymore pro-footage is 99 per cent not in the bands hands. Page could have cleared this all up years ago with a straight answer. But he likes to keep fans guessing and the mystery alive.
  13. The fact that Plant never plays any songs from WIC in his sets (aside from Please read... with Krauss) and Page never mentions the album says it all.
  14. I too revisited it recently and thought it was better than I remembered. Probably the weight of expectation had dwindled with time. It's still no classic, but some of Page's surf guitar-cum-David Lynch soundscapes are very interesting.
  15. LOL. Don't forget they will be "personally" stamped by Page for a super deluxe version for an extra $6,000.
  16. I just listened to the podcast and he seems to be alluding that the discussions are around a live performance, rather than an archive release or merchandise. I don't anticipate and don't want a live performance. They went out on a high at the 02, leave it there. The only way is down for me. They'll be 11 years older come next year. One final, monumental live archive release would be good. And please, no Cirque du Soleil, Las Vegas style-show, like the Beatles did. Zep aint Bette Midler.
  17. Good shout. Maybe he's been asked to do liner notes for full Earls Court and Knebworth DVDs, chronological live album, and LA 77 run in soundboard. We can only dream...
  18. Steve, you kept saying that Zep didn't celebrate anniversaries and you didn't anticipate anything! Anyway, we shall see what they come up with.
  19. Not to say I told you so, but I anticipated something for the half-century - most likely new old stuff.
  20. Hmm, doesn't sound like Jones actively pursued Grohl to let him be in his new band. Sounds more like, as I suspected, Grohl invited JPJ along to a few things which led a jam and the rest happened organically. More from Grohl's side than JPJ picking up the phone and initiating things.
  21. Interested to know where you read that Jones pro-actively called Grohl after the Wembley appearance? Never read that anywhere before. What's the source?
  22. True, a phone call should have been made. Maybe Jones got his revenge by not telling Page he had joined Them Crooked Vultures after the Wembley guest encores. Page was peeved at that. Ah, life's too short....
  23. Jonesy got the best deal out of Zeppelin: he got rich, left with his sanity and family intact, and not many people in the street will recognise and bother him. Plant had no obligation to ask Jonsey to join P/P and looking back, Jonsey's reaction seems a bit precious know. I mean 14 years had passed since the band split up.
  24. This sums up the personality and culture clash pretty well.
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