Hey Steve, be interested if you could shed any light on this. Years ago I commented on a thread on a Detective video on YouTube. Someone else responded last week claiming to be the bass player from Detective and that they had sorted out contractual probs with Swan Song on January 1st this year. So is Swan Song still a legal entity?! I'd assumed it had been wound up years ago. His exact words are as follows Jon Hyde and I are opening a new version of Detective. We, Detective, were given our full rights by Swan Song on Jan 1st. This year.

Mook, I have to ask, where did you find this??!

Quite the alumni The Gods had in that era, Ken Hensley, Mick Taylor & Greg Lake.

I suspect Jimmy had a big bag of riffs he'd been developing for a second solo record, and he fit them to various vocal melodies then Coverdale wrote the lyrics. I genuinely believe it was 50/50 rather than Coverdale driving it. Interesting that they're talking though, and recently. Come on Jimmy, here's your project for lockdown 2!

This is a different interview. Doing phone interviews rather than face to face seems to have made Jimmy open up more, unless it's my imagination.

Definitely buying this. Shindig has to be one of the most underrated / overlooked music mags out there. Lots of interesting psych bands and decent writing. Wonder if it's just a late career overview or if Jim McCarty has been interviewed?

If someone showed you that recording anonymously and asked you to guess, I'd say 99% would guess Bonham. If that isn't him I'm a Dutchman.

There was a gap between Bonzo's official last gig with Tim Rose (31st July) and the date at which he joined up. Although this isn't certain (SAJ may have a date?) given the stalling over matching Rose's pay offer, the number of other drummers that were sounded out and Page & Grant's trip up to Dudley to persuade him to join, I'd guess it was about 6th/7th Aug. So I wonder if in that week he played another date with Tim Rose post 31/7/68 and that's what's on the recording? He was committed to do the Isle of Wight festival at the end of August and had to confess this to Grant who quietly arranged for the commitment to be unwound. So there were clearly other bookings. That's him on the pastdaily.com recording, of that I have no doubt whatsoever.

That fill around the 5.05 minute mark reappears on Good Times Bad Times. This is genuinely exciting to get decent quality sound of him with Tim Rose. Imagine being Page, seeing him in that little club in Hampstead and imagining what he could do with proper studio recording and rockier material!

Couldn't see this posted on this thread. it's two months out of date, but does seem to confirm the filming was done pre-pandemic, and editing was going on July / Aug. Originally posted on ledzepnews, so hat tip to @Cookie0024 From latimes.com August 2, 2020, via ledzepnews: 1:00 P.M. | Santa Monica It’s a busy day at Paradise Pictures, albeit a quiet one. Besides writer and producer Allison McGourty, there were just two others in the spacious craftsman in Santa Monica, and they were in a dark room with masks on editing a documentary about Led Zeppelin. Before the pandemic, there would have been others working behind monitors in various corners of the suite. Now, in this new normal, most tasks are done remotely, which means McGourty spends much of her days in Zoom meetings. McGourty’s day began at 7 a.m., with a call to her post-production team in London. She should have been there with them, overseeing the color grading on the documentary that requires a deft technical and artistic touch. She also should have been able to attend the funeral of a good friend who died recently. But that is not the world she is living in. Now McGourty was sitting at her desk, which faces a row of open windows. There was a light breeze, and she could see Santa Monica Beach just beyond the tropical plants in the front yard, where hummingbirds are known to flit around. She called her archive producer in the U.K., and they talked about how they would get the last bit of footage they needed before the archive house in France closes for the August holiday. It’s been difficult to get all the footage they need. The pandemic shuttered European archive houses for months, and now they must rush before the houses shutter again. Yet another video conference call awaited. The calls can seem endless, but she has noticed lately that people seem to be more respectful of time. There are fewer emails sent, less fluff. For this — and the fact that she and her team members are healthy, and that all of their shooting was done before the pandemic hit — she is grateful.

I wonder what Ricardo saw in her? 😜

This. As well as something like Kashmir, I'd love to hear him talk about, say, a particular track he arranged in the pre-Zeppelin days. Why was the arrangement done that way etc.

I'd heard of the other two, but had no idea Hagar was involved.

Of all the rock musicians doing books nowadays, I sometimes think "why does someone like Steve Tyler write a book that reads like it was puked onto the page, yet JPJ / Page / Plant hasn't done one?". If ever there's someone in music where I'd love to read their memoirs, Jones is the one. Plant said recently he'd never do one.

Can't they get him declared a vexatious litigant or something?! Or does US law not work like that?

Not supporting Ocheltree unquestioningly for a second, but he is interviewed ref: the '77 tour in Barney Hoskyns' "Trampled Underfoot: Oral History of Led Zeppelin". Barney is not a hack like certain Zep biographers, and to put quotes from Ocheltree in the book, there must have been some connection between him and the band surely? The question is, what? FWIW, he's credited on the "cast of characters" intro page as "drum tech who advised & assisted Bonham on 1977 tour". Not stirring, just saying that's how he's described. Maybe the auctioneers ought to contact Barney for clarification!

Not to mention Mick Jagger's awful solo albums, Roger Daltrey's solo career, etc. Plant is one of the very few who's been a frontman of a huge rock band and had a succesful solo career. Ozzy is another, but he did it by doing virtually nothing different solo to what he'd done in Sabbath. Plant by contrast has taken chances and good for him.

As Jimmy lacks a lyric writer, maybe he could get a machine to do it. Don't believe me? This appeared on YouTube a couple of days ago Let's face it, it's better than Hot Dog. A bit better....

In other news, McCartney says prospect of a Beatles reunion "looking dicey"

Parts of it sound like a distant cousin of Bron yr Aur

It does make you wonder why Jones said they were "almost in a rebirth situation". Did he really believe it, or was it the relief of helping get the band functioning again that made him say that? Europe 1980 isn't a disaster by any means, but they just seem underpowered. Yet Copenhagen a year earlier had been brilliant. The difference between a one off show and being on tour? Would it have been different if Page had been energised by being back in America? I guess we'll never know.

I think it is Page. The Yardbirds went thru a phase that year where they all wore "Lennon shades". Those plastic seats make me wonder if the pic was taken at an airport, pity it's not wider angle to see more detail.

Phil Carlo said the techs actually turned Collins' mics off for Stairway. Awkward. Edit...that look at 12.35 is pretty enigmatic. People commenting on YouTube seemed to think it was Plant laughing cos he realises Jimmy's not 100% sober. I wonder if it's actually the moment when Plant realises that, whatever he thinks of it, he'll never ever escape this song!

Not to mention virtually inventing the "rock star stage presence" archetype. How many rock singers since Plant have dyed their hair blond and copied his stage moves? Most of the bands that came out of LA in the 80s for a start. Really "put it all out there" applied to all of them. Zeppelin might have occasionally had a train wreck live, but there's one thing they never did, they never phoned it in.

Re: the Gerrard St rehearsal, even if that wasnt recorded and Plant is misremembering, I bet Page did record the rehearsals at the Pangbourne boathouse that took place in the week between coming back from Sweden and going into the studio on the 25th Sept 68. They were used, I'm sure, for fine tuning before recording and Page must have wanted to do the record quickly (doubtless to save cash!). It doesn't make sense they wouldn't be recorded, the tapes could be listened to to make final decisions on arrangements, work out vocal stylings etc. By contrast, Gerrard St a month earlier was much more of a "let's see if we can stand each other / play well with each other" kind of deal, and I bet Page wouldn't want to pay to record that.