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ZepHead315

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  1. He actually already posted his memories of the 73 tour: I am definitely adding a +1 to hear the memories of 6/25/72 (unless Strider already posted it and I'm missing it somewhere). Strider, I'll just repeat what I said earlier. Your writing is superb. The way you set the scene telling of what things were like in that era, then the building sense of anticipation as you recount the days leading up to the concert, then reading your description of being there and experiencing it while I listen to the bootleg...it's the closest this young man (who wasn't even born when Bonham died) will ever come to seeing the boys in concert. By all means, feel free to continue the journey for this LA run, as well as the HTWWW show and the 75 shows (unless I missed those too). Your posts are definitely a major highlight of this forum!
  2. To clarify: I'm not asking for your favorite opening song overall (ie. Immigrant Song vs. Rock & Roll vs. TSRTS). Rather, I'm curious as to what your favorite opening songs are to a particular concert/bootleg. One that makes you think "This is gonna be epic!" Here's a few of mine: Train Kept a Rollin' - Boston 1/26/69 - Oh man, that wah-wah intro! Just a gigantic wall of sound that builds and builds before the band comes thundering out of the gate. Just explosive from beginning to end. Immigrant Song - NY 9/19/70 (evening) - The first time I heard this, Robert's voice was so good that it actually sounded scary to me! Just insanely powerful! And this was before Led Zep III came out, so I can only imagine what it must have been like to have heard this for the first time! Immigrant Song - Tokyo 9/23/71 - The opening salvo to the amazing 1971 Japan tour. You can tell immediately the band has a "take no prisoners" attitude. TSRTS - LA 6/21/77 - Do I really need to explain? John Henry Bonham. That is all.
  3. Definitely continue on! Your writing is really great and puts me right there in the seats!
  4. Today marks the 40th anniversary of the start of Led Zeppelin's last tour of America in 1977. On this night 40 years ago, they were playing the first show of the tour at the Dallas Memorial Auditorium (which we sadly do not have a recording of). I've always been fascinated by this tour, as it marks the end of an era for a lot of things: It was the last time Zeppelin would perform on an "epic" scale (long tours in sold-out arenas and stadiums, shows that were 3+ hours long, long jams in the middle of songs), the last time they would perform an acoustic set, and the last time Plant seemed to really be into it. I really think Karac's death made him lose a lot of enthusiasm for playing in the band. In spite of its well-known problems, I've always really liked this tour and it's one of my favorites. A good reason for this is probably that the first complete Zeppelin bootleg I ever heard was Listen to This Eddie. I can still remember when I played it for the first time: That sense of building anticipation, the crowd roaring, the soundcheck. And then The Song Remains the Same started...and my jaw dropped on the floor! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Bonzo was going absolutely nuts, seeming to be on the verge of destroying his drum kit. Page's tone was downright nasty and heavy. Jones was racing along on bass. And Plant was singing with enthusiasm and passion. I was floored. This was a MILLION times better than the studio version which I had grown accustomed to. Over the course of the next couple of days I listened to the remainder of the show whenever I had free time. When I finished, I was never the same. That was the moment when I got into Zeppelin bootlegs. That was the moment when Zeppelin became my all-time favorite live band. Nothing will ever come close to that feeling I had. I suppose because of this, whenever I think of this tour, I think of those LA shows, even though the entire tour was not up to that level. For me, these are my favorite concerts by anyone. Sure, on a technical level each member of the band may have had a superior night elsewhere (with maybe the exception of Bonzo), but I just love how locked in to one another they sound. I love the setlist (even though the drum solo and noise solo can wear thin), which perfectly sums up most of their career. I love the enthusiasm and the clear joy they have in playing in their "home away from home". I love all the references to badgeholders. Most of all, I love the sound. We are truly lucky that Mr. Mike Millard was there for four of those six glorious nights and was able to capture those shows in fantastic sound quality. I could go on and on about why I really like this tour, but I think Strider did a great job of summing up the feelings of fellow '77 fans in another thread. If I may quote him: Basically, this thread is for any and all discussion of the '77 tour. Favorite concerts, songs, moments, etc. Feel free to post any concert memories as well if you were one of the lucky ones to see Zeppelin in person on this tour!
  5. I know I've said it before but I think I agree with Nutrocker...6/22 is maybe the best performed out of all the LA shows. Apart from Page breaking a string a couple of times, there are no real screw ups. My fave versions of IMTOD and OTHAFA and one of my favorite versions of Stairway. Even the drum solo is fantastic, probably the best of 77. Definitely #1 on my soundboard wish list for 77!
  6. Wow! Excellent post Strider! Very well-written and detailed! For a few wonderful moments, I could actually picture myself sitting there at the Forum. I can't even imagine what it must have been like to have seen and heard this show in person. I distinctly remember hearing this for the first time and, like you, I was so floored by TSRTS that I didn't even notice Jimmy dropping out in Sick Again. You are incredibly lucky to have seen Zeppelin as many times as you did! I am very envious and I look forward to your further memories of this run!
  7. Are you by any chance still doing your 77 tour thread on your memories of these shows? I totally understand if you're too busy...but I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say I'd love to hear/read them!
  8. It's not EXACTLY what you're asking for, but the Boston Tea Party show on January 26th, 1969 has Page WAY out in front in the recording, with the rest of the band (especially Plant and Bonham) far in the background. It's a bit distorted but still listenable, especially if you can tolerate the unbalanced nature of the recording. It also helps that the band, especially Page, is on fire throughout. Check it out if you haven't!
  9. Based on the setlist, it sounds like this might be the "Going to California" show, live at Berkeley September 14, 1971. I'm not sure whether the version you have is rare or not. Maybe try checking Discogs?
  10. YES! I always show people that solo whenever they say Page sucked live after '73. Easily one of his best ever solos.
  11. Studio: Good Times Bad Times When The Levee Breaks Fool In The Rain Live: The Song Remains The Same 6/21/77 Dazed & Confused 3/21/73 Achilles Last Stand 5/21/77
  12. The madness starts a week from today...anyone else going to do a listen of the entire LA run? Can't wait!
  13. +1. Even though this would be similar to the HTWWW track listing (and thus probably wouldn't sell very well), this is my #1 bootleg hope - to have a better recording of this show. Also agree about the Boston Tea Party show. My #2 would be the MSG 1970 evening show.
  14. Hang in there man! I dealt with several family tragedies a few years ago, so I kinda understand how you're feeling. Sending thoughts your way!
  15. I've been to Grandfather Mountain a couple of times. It really is an absolutely beautiful place and definitely gives you a new appreciation for nature. Hope you and your family had a good time!
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  17. I also forgot to mention Baltimore 7/23/73. Despite the poor sound quality, the band is really ON here. Robert's voice is in great shape, the best he's sounded in almost a year. And Jimmy is outstanding here! Not only is Dazed and Confused fantastic, but the band plays it out of order! If we had a better quality recording, I think this would easily be mentioned in the same breath as 6/3/73 and 7/17/73 as the best show of the whole tour. Incredible!
  18. 4/17/70 - Despite the so-so sound quality, this is an incredible show from start to finish. How Many More Times is epic. I believe the longest version ever. 8/21/71 - Never hear this one get mentioned as much as Going to California or Orlando. This is easily up there with both of those shows, and may even surpass them in terms of performance. Robert's voice is utterly insane at this show. It's no wonder his voice began to decline after this gig. Still, he delivers here. Best version of Rock and Roll ever, IMO. Robert goes apeshit there! 6/15/72 - Despite the annoying tapers, the sound here is great, and the performance, as usual for this year, is outstanding. Dazed is unreal here! 3/27/75 - It's funny. I've never cared that much for 75 (found it too stale, Robert's voice, etc.)...yet I love this show. It's got a more laid back, relaxed vibe than the marathon performances in Vancouver and Seattle. The band just seems to really be enjoying themselves, and Jimmy in particular is having a great night (at least for the most part). Trampled Under Foot is fantastic. OTHAFA is very unique and (IIRC) the longest ever version. Dazed is pretty spooky here too. It's not as intense as it had been before, but in a way, the slow, ominous feel actually makes it darker (which is weird because I normally dislike 75 Dazeds). The Old Man/Loving You interlude is fantastic. Yeah, it runs too long, but it's still interesting. 5/18/75 - The best Earls Court show, IMO. Tight and consistent with no big flaws. Hopefully a soundboard and/or video will surface of it one day. 5/18/77 - A very solid performance that never gets talked about much. Apart from a couple of flubs in No Quarter and Ten Years Gone, the whole band is great, and the sound, while not perfect, is still listenable. And, while I'm not sure if this would qualify as underappreciated... 9/23/71 - When it comes to the Japan tour, the Osaka shows (especially the last one) seem to get more attention. But the unbalanced sound of 9/29 always bothered me. Not only does 9/23 have better sound (or at least more balanced sound), but it also features Robert in better voice. Yes, the setlist is more standard, but they really give it their all for each and every song, so it works out in the end.
  19. My internet connection is the worst it has ever been. I've been disconnected multiple times for no reason and I have to keep on refreshing pages almost constantly. It took me about 15 minutes just to download one song. This really sucks!
  20. Bonzo is so out of it on 6/19 that it's hard to focus on anything else. Jimmy having an off night can be overlooked and, depending on your preferences, the same could be said for Plant. But if the drummer is out of it, it's going to disrupt the whole band. Jimmy and Robert are indeed having a fantastic night for 6/19. Just imagine if Bonzo had been as "on" as he had been in LA later that week!
  21. What's the story on the 2nd source for 6/22 (the one that lasts from the end of Since I've Been Loving You to the beginning of No Quarter)? It's by far the best and doesn't sound far off from a Millard tape. Why does it only last for a few minutes? Is that really all there is or is EV being greedy and hoarding the tape?
  22. The second LA show (6/22) is one of the best shows of the tour and easily rivals Eddie and Badgeholders in terms of performance. The sound quality is not as good (Mike Millard wasn't there, so five different sources, which vary in quality, are used here), but it's an amazingly heavy performance. Best version of IMTOD they ever did, contains the best OTHAFA solo ever, and includes the longest No Quarter ever. Definitely check it out if you haven't. I definitely agree with Nutrocker on 4/28 Cleveland and 5/18 Birmingham. The former starts off a bit slow to my ears (both TSRTS and Sick Again sound a bit sloppy IMO), but the band warms up quickly and gets better and better as the show moves along. It also helps that the band's power and volume comes across quite well on the recording. Birmingham is great too. There's some small mistakes in No Quarter and Ten Years Gone, but otherwise the performance is solid from beginning to end. Recording is okay. Send me a PM if you want me to hook you up!
  23. I think the issue isn't necessarily the fact that there's editing, but how much editing there is. Celebration Day has barely any editing at all (and given how it was a one-off performance, why should it have much editing?). How The West Was Won has more editing, but that doesn't bother me so much as the sound. Way too overloaded and "loud". The Song Remains The Same is a bit overkill, IMO. You could write a novel about all the editing that was done for that album, both the original and the rerelease (not to mention the stuff put on the Led Zeppelin DVD). Heck, The Garden Tapes pretty much already did this. Plus, IIRC there's overdubs on that album as well (granted I believe it's only with Robert's vocals, but still). When you get to editing to that degree, it just feels "artificial". I've seen people cite The Song Remains The Same as a reason for why Zeppelin "supposedly" sucked live. They justify it by saying "look at all the editing that Page had to go through just to get an official release". If one of the members is having an off night, then just record a different night and use the respective best versions of each song to combine into one killer live album/compilation. Sure, if you have to do some editing, go ahead. But to do it in the way that Page did it for The Song Remains The Same just doesn't feel honest. When I listen to a live album, I listen to it to get an idea for what the band sounded like live. I get it that it's never going to be 100% like actually going to see them in concert, but it's better than nothing. But I just chuckle when I think of bands that do editing to that extent (or worse). Having to listen to all those hours of tape, picking a three second segment here, another five seconds there. If you have to get that detail-oriented, then the performances are either not good enough to be released, or you're too much of a perfectionist. I'd be happy for an Earls Court release regardless, but if Jimmy edits it to the extent that he did on TSRTS, it'll somewhat dampen my enjoyment. But if it's only to the degree of HTWWW, then I'll enjoy the hell out of it. To each their own.