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ZepHead315

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  1. Today marks the 40th anniversary of the start of Led Zeppelin's last tour of America in 1977. On this night 40 years ago, they were playing the first show of the tour at the Dallas Memorial Auditorium (which we sadly do not have a recording of). I've always been fascinated by this tour, as it marks the end of an era for a lot of things: It was the last time Zeppelin would perform on an "epic" scale (long tours in sold-out arenas and stadiums, shows that were 3+ hours long, long jams in the middle of songs), the last time they would perform an acoustic set, and the last time Plant seemed to really be into it. I really think Karac's death made him lose a lot of enthusiasm for playing in the band. In spite of its well-known problems, I've always really liked this tour and it's one of my favorites. A good reason for this is probably that the first complete Zeppelin bootleg I ever heard was Listen to This Eddie. I can still remember when I played it for the first time: That sense of building anticipation, the crowd roaring, the soundcheck. And then The Song Remains the Same started...and my jaw dropped on the floor! I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Bonzo was going absolutely nuts, seeming to be on the verge of destroying his drum kit. Page's tone was downright nasty and heavy. Jones was racing along on bass. And Plant was singing with enthusiasm and passion. I was floored. This was a MILLION times better than the studio version which I had grown accustomed to. Over the course of the next couple of days I listened to the remainder of the show whenever I had free time. When I finished, I was never the same. That was the moment when I got into Zeppelin bootlegs. That was the moment when Zeppelin became my all-time favorite live band. Nothing will ever come close to that feeling I had. I suppose because of this, whenever I think of this tour, I think of those LA shows, even though the entire tour was not up to that level. For me, these are my favorite concerts by anyone. Sure, on a technical level each member of the band may have had a superior night elsewhere (with maybe the exception of Bonzo), but I just love how locked in to one another they sound. I love the setlist (even though the drum solo and noise solo can wear thin), which perfectly sums up most of their career. I love the enthusiasm and the clear joy they have in playing in their "home away from home". I love all the references to badgeholders. Most of all, I love the sound. We are truly lucky that Mr. Mike Millard was there for four of those six glorious nights and was able to capture those shows in fantastic sound quality. I could go on and on about why I really like this tour, but I think Strider did a great job of summing up the feelings of fellow '77 fans in another thread. If I may quote him: Basically, this thread is for any and all discussion of the '77 tour. Favorite concerts, songs, moments, etc. Feel free to post any concert memories as well if you were one of the lucky ones to see Zeppelin in person on this tour!
  2. Hmm...this is certainly confusing. Are you saying someone plugged their equipment into the multitrack and got a raw feed that just happened to feature Page and Bonzo? This would explain why the tape is so unbalanced, and it seems to be what others have been saying. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can shed some more light on this. I will say based on all the evidence presented in the thread I linked above, it is most definitely NOT an audience tape from directly on the stage, as has been rumored. There's no way it would sound that unbalanced if that were the case. Does this mean we technically both do and do not have a soundboard from this show? If so, what a conundrum!
  3. I thought that the general consensus based on this discussion at Royal Orleans was that the main source used for the 9/29 show was a soundboard/feed from a multitrack and NOT an audience recording.
  4. Kiss were still doing drum solos with Peter Criss as late as 1998, as this video shows. To put it mildly, Criss is no Bonham.
  5. You definitely saw a fantastic show. Pontiac is not only a good gig in and of itself, but so historic, what with the record-breaking attendance. Happy to have you on the forum. Hope you decide to stay as this truly is a great place!
  6. Hi there Debbie! Welcome to the forum! You'll find a lot of friendly, knowledgeable people here. You are so lucky to have seen Zeppelin live! Which date on the 77 tour did you see them? Would love to hear your memories of the show!
  7. To add two more things: I love the unique intro to No Quarter that Jones plays on 3/12/75. It sounds so haunting and eerie and fits the tone of the song perfectly. Anyone know of any other dates where he does a unique intro like this one? I also love the moment just after the bow solo in D&C on 3/16/73. Instead of heading directly into the fast section, Page gets into a brief call-and-response with Bonham. He shreds through this acapella solo, then Bonzo responds with thunderous fills. For me those 20 seconds capture what the 73 Euro tour was all about. Just Page and Bonham battling it out each and every night.
  8. Alright then! I think an excellent start is the Texas International Pop Festival on August 31, 1969. It's an excellent soundboard recording, and the performance is short and tight. After that there's Live On Blueberry Hill. One of the first Zeppelin bootlegs ever released, and generally considered to have started the bootleg craze for the band. Next is Burn Like a Candle. An excellent audience recording of one of the two concerts that was used to make How The West Was Won. Includes some tracks that were not included on the live album. Then there's Offenburg. Considered by many to be the technical peak of Page. The band steps up to the plate to cover for Plant's weak voice and the result is spectacular. Finally there's Listen to This Eddie. A near perfect audience recording of a phenomenal performance. Bonham in particular is putting on one of the best (if not THE best) shows of his career. There's many many other fantastic bootlegs, but these are a good start. All have good to excellent sound and the performances are spectacular! Enjoy!
  9. How new are you to their bootlegs? Which ones have you heard so far? I can give you a list of bootlegs with a good balance of sound and performance if you want.
  10. Bath is 6/28/70. Damn good show if you can stomach the poor audio we have circulating now: As for Earl's Court, the May 18th is generally considered to be the best (or at least most underrated) performance of the run. Even Plant is in pretty good shape there.
  11. The only two 1977 shows that were for sure videotaped were Pontiac and Seattle. The latter is very unlikely to see the light of day. It's a pretty subpar performance overall, not to mention Jimmy looks so strung out. Pontiac on the other hand would definitely be cool to have. Earl's Court is better than Seattle, but also has issues, mainly with Plant's voice. Rock and Roll in particular suffers from this. Now if videotapes from the other three nights surface, I think Page could easily compile a killer live DVD if he wanted to. Again though, given his reputation for being a perfectionist, I seriously doubt it, since he'd want to "fix" flubs and bum notes. Then there's Bath which, assuming the video/film hasn't been destroyed, would definitely be killer. To be honest, though, I'd be surprised if we get any more official video.
  12. This 100%. Hard rock existed before Led Zeppelin, but a lot of it was done within a certain element. You had MC5, for example, who were more precursors to punk than anything else. Then you had The Yardbirds, who, like early Zeppelin, were rooted firmly in the blues. Yet a lot of their stuff today sounds tame. Then you had groups like The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Vanilla Fudge, and Iron Butterfly. Their stuff was certainly heavy for its time, but it was done within trippy psychedelic songs. None of this is meant as a diss towards any of these groups, but the point is that all the elements of hard rock were there, but it was fragmented. What Zeppelin did was amplify and unite these elements, creating the idea of a hard rock group we know today, what with a virtuoso guitarist, a powerful singer with a huge range, a thunderous drummer, and a tight bass player. They were also an important influence in terms of fashion and overall look. Virtually every hair metal band of the 1980s was essentially copying Zeppelin's long-haired, flamboyant stage look (albeit taking it to ridiculous proportions). Not to mention the whole no opening acts at concerts, light shows, lazer pyramids, epic three hour shows, which are still emulated today. I don't know if SAJ is trolling or is just having a bad day, but I honestly can't believe anyone with almost 20,000 posts in a Zeppelin forum would say such nonsense. Who cares if their initial albums were full of covers? So were The Beatles. The Ramones had at least one cover on each of their first five albums, but that doesn't make them any less influential. Hell, Elvis Presley barely wrote any songs at all.
  13. I'm going to preface this by saying that I haven't heard a TON of 75 shows, so bear with me. The problems I have with 1975 shows, at least from what I've heard, is the following: 1. Stale setlists. This was probably the least exciting setlist Zeppelin ever did. If you look at the typical setlist for a 75 show, it's all standard stuff that you would expect them to play for that era. It's barely an upgrade from the 73 American tour. And the pacing is just off, especially for the second half. I mean come on, a 20-30 minute Moby Dick followed by a 40 minute Dazed and Confused? IIRC, literally the only thing they'd change would be the encores, at least for the American shows. Maybe add Communication Breakdown, or Heartbreaker. I know it was the same deal with the 73 tour, but that setlist felt tighter and just worked better IMO. Even the 77 tour had more variance (substituting IMTOD for OTHAFA, changing Trampled Under Foot from an encore to a main part of the setlist and even sometimes putting it directly after the acoustic set, sometimes including Black Dog, sometimes including Dancing Days in the acoustic set). 2. Robert's voice, which has been pretty well covered here so I won't say anything else. 3. Jimmy's tone. I really dislike how his guitar sounds on this tour. As others have pointed out, too clean, hardly any "crunch". 4. The band in general, especially Jimmy and Robert, were a shadow of their 1973 selves. A perfect example of this is the versions of Dazed and Confused from this tour. With the exception of 3/21/75, I haven't heard a single version yet that matched up to the versions from 1973 and earlier. On the earlier tours, it was played with a fury and speed that would just blow you away. Even though it got to 30 minutes, it rarely felt like it. By the time the 75 tour rolled around, the song had already evolved to its complete form. The band did not introduce any new sections for the song (save for the outro). As such, there's a feeling of "going through the motions". Which would be fine...if the band still played as well as they did two years earlier. Unfortunately, Jimmy in particular is clearly not as fluid as he was. Often times, the song is played at a slow, lumbering pace, like a huge monster walking through molasses. The only sections of this song that were consistently good on the 75 tour were the San Francisco/Woodstock section (here the slow pace actually helps, and sounds more eerie and hypnotic than in 73) and the outro. Give me an earlier version any day over the 75 versions. I don't think it's their worst live year ever (I'd vote for 1980. Sorry guys, it just doesn't do anything for me), but it's far from their best IMO. I really think if they dropped Dazed, shortened the drum solo a bit, and added a few more songs (like what happened for the January shows), it would work better. As it stands, I rarely listen to a 75 show. I really have to be in the mood for it. It just feels like a chore with the exception of the truly great shows (3/12 and 3/21 come to mind).
  14. Anyone gonna bust out Birmingham today? I've never heard the show myself, so I'm looking forward to hearing it as I've heard great things. Question: which version should I go for? I've heard praise for TDOLZ's "Out Of The Way", but I've also heard praise for a previously uncirculated alternate source taped by "Jon Meacham's brother and a couple of friends". Which is the better source in terms of sound quality? Thanks in advance!
  15. Adelaide and Sydney have the best sound IMO. Melbourne has pretty good sound too, albeit it has multiple sources, at least one of which was mediocre IIRC. They're all good shows with their own moments. I'd say start with Adelaide, then Sydney.
  16. EVs "Led Zeppelin Is My Brother" is just as good a bootleg as any for 10/2. I'm not familiar with Taranturas "Evil Spirits In Kyoto", but Wendy's "The Old Capital" is very good. I'd recommend that one for 10/10. Hope this helps!
  17. If they string this thing out much longer, it'll be the bootleg equivalent of Jimmy's "warming up on the touchlines" quote.
  18. I'm currently listening to 1/26/69 and I'm just going to reiterate what I said above: Not only does this have (IMO) the best Train Kept a Rollin' ever, but this is probably the best gig of 1969. Listen to Page at this show. He is EXPLOSIVE throughout. This is one of his all-time best shows, period. And, unlike 8/31/69 or 4/27/69, which feature Plant in a lower voice, this show has him hitting unbelievable highs. Listen to I Can't Quit You Baby, You Shook Me, or Babe I'm Gonna Leave You. Bottom line: you HAVE to get this show. It doesn't matter if the show only lasted 90 minutes or 4 hours. It is just perfect regardless, IMO.
  19. This is brilliant!
  20. Didn't he switch outfits during the June 22nd show, where he had the black dragon suit and then switched out of it ("Mr. Page's pants are falling down!") into the white dragon suit? Of course, there he at least had a good excuse. I'm wondering if he picked the Stormtrooper outfit, in part, to make up for the night before when he fell ill. Perhaps he wanted to wear something striking and provocative in order to draw more attention to himself, since he knew he was fucked up the previous night? That way the audience (stoned as they undoubtedly were) would be like "Wow! What is Page wearing? Holy shit, he looks and sounds badass tonight!" It's especially interesting since he never wore the outfit again, right?
  21. This should probably go into the Live forum. That being said, the most famous one is Burn Like a Candle, from their 6/25 show at the LA Forum. One of two shows used on HTWWW, many people actually prefer this to the live album. Very good recording. Apart from that, here's a few more: All of the Australasian shows (with the exception of Brisbane) sound excellent. 6/15 Uniondale, save for the chatty tapers 6/22 San Bernardino 6/28 Tucson 10/2 Tokyo 10/10 Kyoto Of those mentioned, I'd say Tokyo is the best sounding followed by Burn Like a Candle. (It's been a while since I've listened to some of these though, so bear with me) The Seattle show on 6/19 deserves a special mention as well. The recording is ok at best, but the performance is incredible. The live debut of four of their songs, an epic organ solo/medley, tons of encores, etc. Seriously, look at the setlist. If I could go back in time and see one Zeppelin show, I'd see this one (preferably with great taping equipment ). My holy grail is a soundboard of this show. Hope this helps!
  22. Have you heard any of the '75 soundboards? Jones is pretty prominent in those, sometimes more so than Page IIRC. Seek some of those out if you haven't.
  23. How did I miss that?! Thank you for letting me know!
  24. I came across this video on Reddit. The last 25 seconds feature Richard Cole and a concert promoter discussing payment for the show. The promoter opens what appears to be a briefcase full of cash, but then Cole shuts it, not wanting it to be shown on camera. My question is...why was this filmed in the first place? Why throw in this random bit when the rest of the video shows the band arriving at the gig and a brief performance from the gig? Why would the concert promoter demand the money transaction be filmed? It just seems rather odd.
  25. I would not get my hopes up. If Zeppelin really were uniting, I doubt they would do it at a festival like this where the other big headliners are Kansas, Blue Oyster Cult, .38 Special, Styx, Supertramp, and REO Speedwagon. Not to knock those bands, but if Zeppelin were to reunite, it would be a huge event. Hell, they'd probably have their own festival. Besides, the only reason the O2 show happened was as a special tribute to Ahmet Ertegun. Plant has always been notoriously reluctant to do this stuff, so it would be very odd if he suddenly said "Well, shit, since it's the 50th anniversary why not?" As for the home page, I think that's probably leading up to an announcement of a forthcoming solo album/tour by Plant, not a reunion. Bottom line, don't believe any of this stuff until the band officially announces it.