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  1. The Era of Led Zeppelin

    1 to 4...the rise to the top PG and Presence....Zep at their peak HOTH and CODA...hard to place these. I love CODA and several HOTH cuts. But I consider them fillers (albiet fantastic ones) between the eras Purposely left off ITTOD....to me it was basically Plant/Jones getting 'artsy' and not Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham. I just dont like it. But, since it IS a Zep album lets just say if PG and Presence was the peak, and 1-4 the climb up, then ITTOD is their plunge from the top, with CODA as a finale showing us what they once were.
  2. I wish Page would get Jones and Jason and somehow get Plant off his tower to get together and finish (vocals and remix) "10 ribs and all", "LaLa", and "St Tristans Sword". Three actual new songs that can be keyed to Plants vocal range now. Even redo "Swan Song" as their last studio song.
  3. ITTOD

    I too blame it all on Page and his being out of the loop due to drugs. So sad. He eventually recognized it when he relates how he and Bonham decided the NEXT album would go back to what Zep does best...riff driven rock. Unfortunately this was the last album. Not enough Page and Bonham input and way too much Plant and Jones input. Now, when I scan the truck radio and stop on a Zep tune, it is almost always the dreaded FITR and I just cant take it...have to hit 'scan' on the truck radio again.
  4. Presence

    Different strokes for different folks. My top 10 zep songs (which is kind of fluid and in no order) has Achilles, Nobodys fault, Tea for One, and For your life, all of these are on Presence. But we are both into Zep enough to join this forum! I think thats cool. I despise the last few minutes of Carouselambra but the first several minutes are pretty good. And to the OP, Presence is my all time favorite Zep album.
  5. old man with sticks

    I wonder if he still has it? Man it would be cool to see what he bought and compare it to whats on the album.
  6. Trivia On Led Zeppelin (31 Questions)

    21. Amazing because I know a ton of trivia about the songs but not a lot about the people who almost played with them, etc.
  7. Royal Orleans the song and the hotel

    I love Hots on For Nowhere too! Fantastic song. Love the power chord at the end. I used to CRANK that ending so I could hear the reverb or echo or whatever its called from the last note.
  8. Robert Plant rearranging zeppelin classics

    Couldn't agree more with the original poster here. Plant tries so hard to distance himself from the Zeppelin years, then goes ahead and performs Zeppelin songs. I love Zeppelin, really really do. But ya know, the band members are people....I dont have to worship everything they do. Plant has been disappointing me in a LOT of what he does lately. I know I'll get bashed here for this, so be it, I am entitled to my opinion. Most of his solo stuff sucks, not all of it, some of it kicks, but most of it doesnt. Kind of have to ask ourselves, if Plant never joined Zeppelin....would he have made it in the music world if all he ever did was his solo stuff?
  9. What next? AGAIN

    I still wish they would at least get together and TRY to finish 10 ribs (beautiful tune), La La (great rocking beat), and perhaps St Tristans Sword. Plant/Page could write words, key the music to Plants vocal range, get Jason and JP in there, and give it a go. If it sucks, destroy the tapes and say 'thats all folks', if it works out, release them and then say...'thats all folks'.
  10. Easy to figure out why I wouldnt want it on the album. In my opinion the song sucks. Simple. Bonham certainly is outstanding on it, but the song just sucks. I tolerated it in 1979, now I just plain cant stand it.
  11. I was 18 and had eagerly waited for the release, being a Led head since 1973. I am well aware how popular it was. But just because it was popular doesn't mean it was good. Look at some of the music today. But then thats why Baskin Robbins has 38 flavors, if everybody was the same they would only have one (and it would be black cherry!!!).
  12. Anything is better than how it is now. I'd break carouselambra into two songs, (Carousel and Lambra ? HAHA), then throw "lambra" and Fool in the Rain into a shredder so that they could never be found and put onto a Zep "lost cuts" album. Darlene is AWESOME and I love Wearing and Tearing. So ditching the two and putting in the other two should do it. Then the weakest cuts would be All of My Love and Hot Dog. Both are listenable unlike FITR and the last half of Carouselambra.
  13. The later albums?

    Agreed. Presence is my favorite zep album. ITTOD is such a let down. Almost never listen to it. In the Evening and only the first half of Carouselambra (or however its spelled) are the best on that album in my mind. The last half of carouselambra is one of the worst songs zep ever even thought about. Fool in the rain is one of the few, perhaps only as I think about it more, zep song that I change the radio station when it comes on. Unfortunately it gets a lot of airplay. I however really like CODA. Maybe after ITTOD anything would sound good, but after all these years I still like CODA.
  14. I hate Zeppelin tribute bands

    Saw ZOSO many times, I think they are great. What was really cool was the youngsters (15 or 16?) right next to the stage who sang along and knew every word of every song ZOSO did.
  15. whats your top 2 led zep songs?

    1. Achilles Last Stand 2. Tea for One
  16. I was always interested in the cover art of Presence, especially wondering who the various people are. I understand they are stock photos with the 'object' cut into it. But does anybody know WHO the people are in the photos. I would think it would be so cool to be able to go around and say "Hey, check it out...thats me!" when showing people the album. On another thread someone did amazing detective work on the art for Zep IV, and I read about the 2 children identified on Houses of the Holy, has anyone looked into Presence?
  17. Many people seem to want a Zeppelin reunion concert. Not me, in actuality only a relative few would be able to see them. Say 20000 to 75000 in a concert? Meanwhile about 10 million of us fans would not see them. BUT, perhaps new material in a new album? And Jimmy Page had the perfect opportunity. When he released all that bonus material last year, what he should have done instead is put all the unreleased songs on one album. He could have approached Plant, the holdout for anything with zeppelin it seems, and say to him, "look we got this song, '10 Ribs And All', unfinished from Presence....how about you taking a look at it, maybe writing some words to it, and we finish the damn thing?". The same thing with 'LaLa' and perhaps "St Tristams Sword". The rest (Traveling riverside, Jennings farms, Key to the Highway, Hey Hey, etc) could have been used as it is. This would give us 3 really cool NEW zep songs on a 'new' album of material. So Page/Plant/Jones/ and J Bonham could have worked on those 3 songs, keying them for Plants voice. Plant would not have the excuse of not wanting to revisit the past (as the 3 songs would be new), and instead of relatively few people seeing them once, all of us could enjoy the album anytime we want. I actually took all the 'new' songs after buying all the new releases and put them in one file and one CD. I have 12 songs and often will play it when I want to hear some 'different' zeppelin. I threw Swan Song on there also (Page really needs to finish it himself, not the Midnight Moonlight version), along with Baby Come Home, Sugar Mama, Something Else, and The Girl I love. Technically Page could still try to sell the idea of finishing the 3 songs to Plant, I hope the idea comes to him. Robert Plant owes us nothing....I certainly understand him doing what he wants now, but a little part of me thinks: c'mon man, how bad could it be to enter a studio with those 3 and cut 3 songs the way you want them?
  18. There are many polls here asking us to rank the Zeppelin albums in order. Physical Graffiti is often listed as the best, but being a double album that kind of weighs the process doesn't it? I mean, 15 songs on one album set! Heck yes its one of the best! But, what if the albums were released singly? I understand that if that was done they probably would have been arranged differently, but there is no way to know how, so lets go with what we have. Lets say PG1 was released as is: Side 1: 1. Custard Pie 2. The Rover 3. In My Time of Dying Side 2: 4. Houses of the Holy 5. Trampled Underfoot 6. Kashmir Then maybe 8 or 9 months later PG2 was released: Side 1: 1. In The Light 2. Bron-Yr-Aur 3. Down By The Seaside 4. Ten Years Gone Side 2: 5. Night Flight 6. The Wanton Song 7. Boogie With Stu 8. Black Country Woman 9. Sick Again I wonder how that would affect the rankings? To me, PG1 would suffer because of Trampled Underfoot (used to love it, bought the 45 when it was released, maybe I loved it to death because I cant stand it now), otherwise it would be a dynamite album. Side 1 of PG2 would be the ultimate side as to me every one of those songs would make my 'top 20' list of Zep songs. Side 2 suffers from The Wanton Song. Never really warmed to it. Its okay, and I never skipped over it while I was air guitaring to it on my 8 track in the mid 70s, just a weak song for me. And yes I love Boogie With Stu. I personally rank Presence as number 1 in my book (Achilles! Nobodys fault! Tea for One (maybe my #1 Zep song)! Hots on! For Your Life!), even with 2 weak songs (Royal Orleans and Candy Store Rock) the album still rises above Physical. But for those of you who put PG as your favorite Zep album, would either of the individual albums retain the number one spot or would your second place ranking then rise to number one? As an aside, if they did this, releasing PG1 in Feb of 1975 and PG2 in say December of 75 or Jan of 76, perhaps Presence would not have been rushed, perhaps "10 Ribs and All" would have been finished for a release on the album with a release date sometime in Jan of 1977. Just a thought.
  19. You guys are right about my statement as I mistyped it! I left out EARLY in my statement. I think zeps EARLY 1970s gig and especiially the 1960s gigs were not quite there. To me the best live gigs were from maybe 1973 on. And I dodnt think o2 gets stale at all.
  20. Of course Bonzo was an integral part of the band. But if anybody thinks Jason could not fill in....listen to the O2 concert. Now tell me again how Jason could not fill in. That concert to me is better than most of zeps live stuff from the 70s and especially the 60s.
  21. Presence album cover

    Thanks for the replies. No bubble here to burst. I assumed they are models, but where are they today? The kids in particular should be middle aged now. Are they around? Do they go around bragging to their buddies about being on an album that sold millions? Lard, interesting story. Anybody hear anything about he lady or the girl?
  22. They should have taken it up again once Jason was able to keep up, like others have posted. Especially to allow Page to do a follow up album after the horrendous ITTOD. Page stated he and Bonzo planned a more riff driven album for the follow up, I so wonder how great that would have been. What a loss.
  23. I wonder if the people living in that tower right now know how famous it is? If I owned the building I would have a framed cover of Zep IV hanging in the lobby! Heck If i owned the backyard garden from where the album cover photo was taken I would have marked it with a concrete marker and let interested Zepophiles take a photo from the location.