notfadeaway Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Here's an interview I did with Tony Franklin recently: http://tinyurl.com/zad643fI also interviewed Plant back in the 80's, if anyone is interested, I'll publish it.www.bsidenews.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hello and welcome notfadeaway! Enjoyed the read. I would love to see the interview with Robert. Thank you for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hello and welcome notfadeaway! Enjoyed the read. I would love to see the interview with Robert. Thank you for sharingThanks for sharing this with us. I had heard of Tony Franklin over the years, but I didn't realize he is younger than I am. Working with legends like Page and Rogers at such a young age! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringBender Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 On December 26, 2015 at 1:27 PM, notfadeaway said: Here's an interview I did with Tony Franklin recently: http://tinyurl.com/zad643f I also interviewed Plant back in the 80's, if anyone is interested, I'll publish it. www.bsidenews.net Great interview. Thanks for sharing. I always thought Franklin was an incredible bass player and really made the Firm sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Newlan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Great interview with Tony Franklin, eye thank ewe NFA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Ordered off ebay a 7 inch Firm vinyl picture disc (of "The Firm" logo) that I always wanted, it has "Radioactive" on one side and I think "Tear Down The Walls" on the other. Always loved that logo...also ordered a double clear vinyl set called "Class Of '85" that is from their concert at the LA Forum I think the date is 3/14/85. Extremely happy to be getting that...nothing like colored vinyl boots, they are exciting to play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) You can probably get anything you want on ebay, but you just have to know where to look, surely someone on our board can direct me to an ebay seller that has one of these specifically, it's from the amazing kornyfone label I believe...please pm me or if it's ok to do please post a link and a huge thanks in advance to you!! Really want one of these bad. Edited February 24, 2016 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) I got this today, still sealed. back Edited March 1, 2016 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thozil Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) ^^Thanks for posting the concert and Mean Business album review. Edited March 4, 2016 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrledhed Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Never liked that group. "Cadillac" is a great druggy sounding 1980s song, but that's about all I can tolerate. I was listening to "Someone to Love" recently, and it sounds more like a Tony Franklin showpiece than anything. His fretless bass overpowered that track to the point of taking over. It sounds like it was attacking him and he was fighting with it LOL. Page should have put more into that band but didn't. Those records appear to me to sound like incomplete projects that were meant to be more than that. Edited March 6, 2016 by mrledhed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flares Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 10 hours ago, mrledhed said: Never liked that group. "Cadillac" is a great druggy sounding 1980s song, but that's about all I can tolerate. I was listening to "Someone to Love" recently, and it sounds more like a Tony Franklin showpiece than anything. His fretless bass overpowered that track to the point of taking over. It sounds like it was attacking him and he was fighting with it LOL. Page should have put more into that band but didn't. Those records appear to me to sound like incomplete projects that were meant to be more than that. The problem was that after Zep - who were the gold standard of rock - everything else Page did in the genre was never going to live up to the past. That's why he should have gone sideways and done more soundtrack work or something avant garde. DW 2 showed he was adapt at eerie soundscapes and in my opinion is some of his best post-Zep material. Plant went sideways for most of the '80s and so did Jones. Initially, it was the only way to go. Even Plant said he like dw 2 soundtrack but wasnt keen on the AOR Firm. Cadillac was cool because it wasn't a conventional rock song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in_the_evening Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I remember when DW2 came out, I wasn't expecting it, and boom - new Jimmy Page music! Agree with you Flares, the eerie songs suited Page and his persona perfectly. And the slightly rock-ish songs "City Sirens", "Who's to Blame", really are better than just about anything the Firm did. As I read one reviewer somewhere writing about Mean Business "it is hard to imaging anyone having fun playing these songs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover 75 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 3/6/2016 at 5:23 AM, Flares said: The problem was that after Zep - who were the gold standard of rock - everything else Page did in the genre was never going to live up to the past. To me that was the same issue with Plant's solo stuff, most of it sounded like watered down Zep, just my opinion. The Firm was untapped potential, plain & simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Finally got this today, firmly happy! Edited March 8, 2016 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah, I saw that April 29 show, the band certainly made an effort, but as some others have said, this band didn't quite jell live or in the studio. On the first album some of the riffs are actually from Rodgers, I was always amazed, where are some of those generic riffs coming from ?? Certainly there were some great shows from Page, and Rogers never sounded below good, but Jimmy was still regaining his chops(and partial sobriety). But each to their own, if you got much joy out of it, great. Many we're glad just to have Jimmy back. And yes, he should have instead gone into more soundtracks, and wizard projects, laying the straighter rock aside for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffsofpage Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) On 6/15/2014 at 2:42 AM, SteveAJones said: Actually, I don't think the December 8, 1984 Hammersmith Odeon concert was ever released in it's entirety for radio. I could be mistaken on that but as I recall the only concert recording that was ever released to radio was the May 11, 1986 Richfield Coliseum concert (which was recorded for Westwood One's 'Superstars In Concert' program). However, two live tracks from Hammersmith - 'City Sirens' and 'Live In Peace' - were used as b-sides for singles. You'll never see an official dvd release of The Firm Live at Hammersmith Odeon because there's essentially no popular demand for it. Aside from that MTV Europe (or whomever owns MTV Europe's archives now) owns the release rights, not the band. The band could approve or deny a dvd release but they don't own the rights to release it themselves. I do agree it's a shame that MTV and other networks don't make their archives available to the public. I for one would certainly be willing to support a pay per view or pay per download business model. Yes, you are absolutely right(2 years later -lol): Superstars Rock Concert Series Westwood One Great idea with marketing this material! Edited June 28, 2016 by riffsofpage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffsofpage Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 I must be the only one who thinks "Live in Peace" is nearly as great as "Stairway to heaven" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 2 hours ago, riffsofpage said: I must be the only one who thinks "Live in Peace" is nearly as great as "Stairway to heaven" Given a choice, I'd prefer to hear Live In Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Well I have been scouring the internet for this for a while now and it just finally popped back up on ebay so I got it! Can't wait to play side two, I think it was a private performance for the Prince's Trust Benefit, the sound of it is awesome and I can't wait to spin it! On 2/23/2016 at 7:35 PM, luvlz2 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzoso Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 This may or may not have been posted in this topic, regardless if it has been, this is one Fucking Hell of a Firm Gig that was, thankfully recorded professionally for posterity. I saw the Firm twice. Once in 1985 and then in 1986. Actually, I could be wrong on the years but I know that I have seen the Firm twice in two different years and when promoting two different albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, kingzoso said: This may or may not have been posted in this topic, regardless if it has been, this is one Fucking Hell of a Firm Gig that was, thankfully recorded professionally for posterity. I saw the Firm twice. Once in 1985 and then in 1986. Actually, I could be wrong on the years but I know that I have seen the Firm twice in two different years and when promoting two different albums. This was The Firm's first London gig, and they played another at the same venue the next night. Ahmet Ertegun is in the dressing room the band is shown exiting as they make their way to the stage. Ahmet mentioned to Jimmy that Eric Clapton had expressed a favorable opinion of the group, which Jimmy was genuinely pleased to hear. Roy Harper and David Gilmour attended both shows as guests of Jimmy's. Edited September 2, 2016 by SteveAJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) The Firm has some great riffs, but overall something is very odd and off with the music in general and just can't get into it. I like Outrider much much better Edited September 2, 2016 by TheGreatOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Knebs Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On 7/3/2016 at 11:52 PM, riffsofpage said: I must be the only one who thinks "Live in Peace" is nearly as great as "Stairway to heaven" not at all originally on the Cut Loose album ====> Live in Peace 1983 [if you can abide the cilck track drum work btw he played all the instruments] It holds up ok. Mendelsohn's work on the LP is like a textbook and frames the vocals- kinda the point- precisely. Live in Peace is my personal favorite from the band. So much care and emphasis had gone into "don't sound like Bad Company" or "LZ" we have to sound like our own unit. =====> solo begins 42:42 55:30 laser/bow worth a watch & listen Commercial music was such a mud puddle then and no one was certain what would take off and Mean Business owes some of it's patchwork to that. Next favorite from the band is: Money Can't Buy- Live [1:55 track begins] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) On 7/14/2016 at 9:00 PM, luvlz2 said: I think it was a private performance for the Prince's Trust Benefit, I found out it's actually from the night before at the Royal Albert Hall for the ARMS Concert, not the Prince's Trust Benefit. Edited September 3, 2016 by luvlz2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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