Zep and the Beatles

[Evster2012]

sorry really unpopular in the US

I beg to differ. Im 43 and grew up in Southern California. Queen were unquestionably among the pantheon in our schools and among our friends.

[beatbo]

just for your consideration: worldwide record sales-the beatles:

Britain

* Most no. 1 albums in the British albums chart (15 no. 1s).

o Please Please Me (1963, 30 weeks), With the Beatles (1963, 21 weeks), A Hard Day's Night (1964, 21 weeks), Beatles for Sale (1964, 10 weeks), Help! (1965, 9 weeks), Rubber Soul (1965, 9 weeks), Revolver (1966, 7 weeks), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967, 27 weeks), The Beatles (The White Album) (1968, 8 weeks), Abbey Road (1969, 17 weeks), Let It Be (1970, 3 weeks), The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl (1977, 1 week), Live at the BBC (1994, 1 week), Anthology 2 (1996, 1 week), 1 (2000, 9 weeks)

* Group with most no. 1 hits in the British singles chart (17 no. 1s).

"From Me to You" (1963, 7 weeks), "She Loves You" (1963, 6 weeks), "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1963, 5 weeks), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964, 3 weeks), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964, 3 weeks), "I Feel Fine" (1964, 5 weeks), "Ticket to Ride" (1965, 3 weeks), "Help!" (1965, 3 weeks), "We Can Work It Out"/"Day Tripper" (1965, 5 weeks), "Paperback Writer" (1966, 2 weeks), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966, 4 weeks), "All You Need Is Love" (1967, 3 weeks), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967, 7 weeks), "Lady Madonna" (1968, 2 weeks), "Hey Jude" (1968, 2 weeks), "Get Back" (1969, 6 weeks), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969, 2 weeks).

(Consider that these 17 no. 1 hits were achieved in the UK official charts from Record Retailer. New Musical Express listed The Beatles with 18 no. 1 hits, as "Please Please Me" was no. 1 for 2 weeks. Also consider that "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" was no. 1 in Melody Maker.)

* Group with most weeks in the British singles chart (456 weeks).

* Group with most weeks at no. 1 in the British singles chart (69 weeks).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the British singles chart (28 top 10 hits).

o "Please Please Me" (1963, #2), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967, #2), Magical Mystery Tour EP (1967, #2), "Something"/"Come Together" (1969, #4), "Let It Be" (1970, #2), "Yesterday" (1976, #8), "The Beatles Movie Medley" (1982, #10), "Love Me Do" [re-entry] (1982, #4), "Baby It's You" (1995, #7), "Free as a Bird" (1995, #2), "Real Love" (1996, #4)

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the British albums chart (174 weeks at no. 1).

* Most consecutive weeks spent at no. 1 in the UK albums chart (51 weeks from May 11, 1963 to May 2, 1964 – this excludes soundtrack albums).

* Most consecutive no. 1 hits in the British singles chart (11 consecutive no. 1 hits, excludes re-issues of old singles).

* Most consecutive top 5 hits in the British singles chart (22 consecutive top 5 hits from 1963 to 1970).

* Most complete ever domination of the British charts by occupying the first two positions in the singles chart and the albums chart as well as the top 3 positions in the EP chart (Extended Play) from December 12 to December 26, 1963.

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the British albums chart within a calendar year (40 weeks at no. 1, 1964).

* Most no. 1 albums in the British albums chart within a calendar year (3 no. 1 albums, 1965).

* Most simultaneous weeks at no. 1 in the British singles and albums chart (45 weeks).

* First act to replace itself at the no. 1 position in the British singles charts (December 12, 1963).

* First act to replace itself at the no. 1 position in the British albums chart (December 7, 1963).

* The Beatles’ Please Please Me album spent more weeks at no. 1 in the British album charts than any other album by a group (30 weeks at no. 1, this excludes albums by duos and soundtracks).

* Most debuts at no. 1 in the British albums chart (8 no. 1 debuts, record shared with David Bowie)

* Group with the most consecutive weeks inside the British singles chart (105 consecutive weeks, from October 11, 1962 to October 15, 1964).

* Group with most single hits charted in the British singles chart simultaneously (6 hits on April 17, 1976).

* Biggest ever jump within the British albums chart (94 positions jumped by Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band from no. 97 to no. 3 in 1987) (record surpassed in 2008 by Leona Lewis's Spirit album.

* Most consecutive weeks inside the top 10 of the British albums chart (171 consecutive weeks from 1963 to 1966).

* Most consecutive Christmas number one singles (3), (shared with The Spice Girls).

America

* Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (20 no.1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1964, 7 weeks), "She Loves You" (1964, 2 weeks), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964, 5 weeks), "Love Me Do" (1964, 1 week), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964, 2 weeks), "I Feel Fine" (1964, 3 weeks), "Eight Days a Week" (1965, 2 weeks), "Ticket to Ride" (1965, 1 week), "Help!" (1965, 3 weeks), "Yesterday" (1965, 4 weeks), "We Can Work It Out" (1965, 3 weeks), "Paperback Writer" (1966, 2 weeks), "Penny Lane" (1967, 1 week), "All You Need Is Love" (1967, 1 week), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967, 3 weeks), "Hey Jude" (1968, 9 weeks), "Get Back" (1969, 5 weeks), "Come Together"/"Something" (1969, 1 week), "Let It Be" (1970, 2 weeks), "The Long and Winding Road" (1970, 2 weeks)

* Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard Top 200 albums charts (19 no.1 albums).

Meet the Beatles! (1964, 11 weeks), The Beatles' Second Album (1964, 5 weeks), A Hard Day's Night (1964, 14 weeks), Beatles '65 (1965, 9 weeks), Beatles VI (1965, 6 weeks), Help! (1965, 9 weeks), Rubber Soul (1965, 6 weeks), Yesterday...and Today (1966, 5 weeks), Revolver (1966, 6 weeks), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967, 15 weeks), Magical Mystery Tour (1967, 8 weeks), The Beatles (The White Album) (1969, 9 weeks), Abbey Road (1969, 11 weeks), Let It Be (1970, 4 weeks), 1967-1970 (The Blue Album) (1973, 1 week), Anthology 1 (1995, 3 weeks), Anthology 2 (1996, 1 week), Anthology 3 (1996, 1 week), 1 (2000, 8 weeks)

* Most 2-sided charted singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (26 singles, including two double-sided #1 hits, although "For You Blue" (B-side of "The Long And Winding Road") accompanied its A-side and did not chart on its own)

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard albums chart (132 weeks at no. 1).

* Group with most weeks in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (609 weeks).

* Group with most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (59 weeks at no. 1).

* Most songs inside the Billboard Hot 100 at the same time (14 songs on April 11, 1964).

* Most songs inside the Billboard Top 40 at the same time (7 songs on April 11 and 25, 1964).

* Most songs in the Billboard Top 10 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).

* Most songs in the Billboard Top 5 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).

* Most chart entries in the Billboard Hot 100 within a calendar year (30 charted songs in 1964)

* The only group to replace themselves at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 twice (March 21 and April 4, 1964). It would be forty years later when Usher would tie the record.

* Most complete ever domination of the Billboard Hot 100 singles and albums chart by occupying the first 5 positions in the Hot 100 as well as the first two in the albums chart simultaneously (April 4, 1964).

* Most consecutive no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (8 consecutive no. 1 albums from 1965 to 1968).

* Most consecutive top 5 albums in the Billboard albums chart (16 consecutive top 5 albums from 1965 to 1977).

* Group with the longest span of no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (36 years and 51 weeks, 1964 to 2001).

* Group with most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 (6 consecutive no. 1 hits, record shared with the Bee Gees).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart in a calendar year (3 no. 1 albums in 1964, repeated in 1965 and 1966).

* Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 in a calendar year (6 no. 1 singles in 1964)

* The only act to have held the no. 1 and no. 2 position in the Billboard albums chart for 9 straight weeks on two separate occasions (March 2 to April 27 and August 29 to October 24, 1964).

* Most top 3 albums in the Billboard albums chart (27 top 3 albums).

* Most transatlantic no. 1 hit singles (13 songs reached no. 1 in both the U.S. and Britain).

"She Loves You," "I Want to Hold Your Hand," "Can't Buy Me Love," "A Hard Day's Night," "I Feel Fine," "Ticket to Ride," "Help!," "We Can Work It Out," "Paperback Writer," "All You Need Is Love," "Hello, Goodbye," "Hey Jude," "Get Back"

* Group with most consecutive top 5 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (17 consecutive top 5 hits from 1964 to 1969).

* Group with most consecutive top 10 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (24 consecutive top 10 hits from 1964 to 1976).

* Group with most consecutive top 20 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (27 consecutive top 20 hits from 1964 to 1976).

* On April 4, 1964, the Beatles occupied the first 5 positions in the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, the top 2 in the Billboard albums chart, the no. 1 position in the British singles chart, the first two positions in the British albums chart and the no. 1 position in the British EP chart, making this the most complete ever domination of the British and American charts in history.

* Most no. 1 singles in the Cash Box Top 100 charts (22 no.1s).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Cash Box albums charts (15 no.1 albums).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Cash Box albums chart (127 weeks at no. 1).

* Longest span of Top Ten singles in "Cash Box" history ("I Want To Hold Your Hand" - January 25, 1964 to "Real Love" - March 30, 1996 - 32 years, 2 months, 5 days.)

* Group with most weeks in the Cash Box albums chart (722 weeks up to 1974).

* Group with most weeks in the Cash Box singles chart (601 weeks up to 1986).

* Group with most weeks in the Record World albums chart (849 weeks up to 1982).

* Group with most weeks in the Record World singles chart (520 weeks up to 1980).

* Most no. 1 singles in the Record World Top 100 charts (23 no.1s).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Record World albums charts (17 no.1 albums).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Record World albums chart (123 weeks at no. 1).

Other countries

* Most no. 1 hits in the German singles chart (12 no. 1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1964), "Paperback Writer" (1966), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967), "All You Need Is Love" (1967), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967), "Hey Jude" (1968), "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" (1969), "Get Back" (1969), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969), "Something"/"Come Together" (1969), "Let It Be" (1970)

* Most no. 1 hits in the Australian singles chart (23 no. 1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1963), "I Saw Her Standing There" (1964), All My Loving EP (1964), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964), "I Should Have Known Better" (1964), "I Feel Fine" (1964), "Rock and Roll Music" (1965), "Ticket to Ride" (1965), "Help!" (1965), "Day Tripper"/"We Can Work It Out" (1965), "Nowhere Man" (1966), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967), "All You Need Is Love" (1967), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967), "Lady Madonna" (1968), "Hey Jude" (1968), "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" (1969), "Get Back" (1969), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969), "Something"/"Come Together" (1969), "Let It Be" (1970) [1]

* Most no. 1 hits in the Dutch singles chart (21 no. 1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand' (1964), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964), Long Tall Sally EP (1964), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964), "I Should Have Known Better" (1964), "I Feel Fine" (1964), "Rock and Roll Music" (1965), "Ticket to Ride" (1965), "Help!" (1965), "Yesterday" (1965), "We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper" (1965), "Michelle" (1966), "Paperback Writer" (1966), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967), "All You Need Is Love" (1967), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967), "Hey Jude" (1968), "Get Back" (1969), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969), "Let It Be" (1970)

* Most no. 1 hits in the Swedish singles chart (18 no. 1s).

* Most no. 1 hits in the Canadian singles chart (22 no. 1s, CHUM chart).

* Most no. 1 hits in the Norwegian singles chart (21 no. 1s).

* Most hits in the German singles chart within a calendar year (16 hits, 1964).

* Most consecutive top 10 hits in the German singles chart (17, from 1965 to 1970).

* Most no. 1 hits in the German singles chart within a calendar year (4 no. 1 hits in 1969, record shared with ABBA).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the German singles chart (29 top 10 hits).

* Group with most weeks in the German singles chart (589 weeks).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the German albums chart (113 weeks at no. 1).

* Group with most weeks in the German albums chart (1,180 weeks up to 2000).

* Group with most no. 1 albums in the German albums chart (11 no. 1 albums).

* The double album The Beatles/1962-1966 spent more weeks in the German album charts top 10 than any other artist album (124 weeks, only beaten by soundtracks My Fair Lady and West Side Story).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the German albums chart within a calendar year (36 weeks at no. 1 in 1964, excludes soundtracks).

* Group with most albums in the German albums chart within a calendar year (6 albums in 1964).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Dutch singles chart (67 weeks at no. 1).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Dutch singles chart within a calendar year (29 weeks, 1965).

* Most top 10 hits in the Dutch singles chart (35 top 10 hits).

* Most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Dutch singles chart (6 consecutive no. 1 hits).

* Group with most weeks in the Dutch singles chart (523 weeks).

* Only act to debut at no. 1 in the Dutch singles chart (3 times).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Norwegian albums chart (12 no. 1 albums).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian singles chart (97 weeks at no. 1).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian albums chart (182 weeks at no. 1).

* With The Beatles spent more weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian albums chart than any other artist album (31 weeks at no. 1, second only to soundtrack The Sound of Music).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian singles chart within a calendar year (25 weeks at no. 1 in 1966).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian albums chart within a calendar year (48 weeks at no. 1 in 1964).

* Most consecutive no. 1 singles in the Norwegian singles chart (8 consecutive no. 1 singles from 1965 to 1967).

* Most hit singles within a calendar year in the Norwegian singles chart (10 hit singles in 1964).

* Most no. 1 hit singles within a calendar year in the Norwegian singles chart (6 no. 1 hits in 1964).

* Most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Swiss singles chart (5 consecutive no. 1 hits from 1968 to 1970, chart only started in 1968).

* Group with most weeks in the Australian singles chart (604 weeks).

* Group with most weeks in the Finnish singles chart (437 weeks).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the Austrian singles chart (25 top 10 hits).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the Danish singles chart (33 top 10 hits).

* 26 no. 1 hits in Australia (130 weeks at no. 1). (David Kent)

* 23 no. 1 hits in Australia (101 weeks at no. 1). (Top 40 Research)

* 22 no. 1 hits in Canada (74 weeks at no. 1). (Chum)

* 22 no. 1 hits in Sweden (95 weeks at no. 1). (Kvallstoppen)

* 18 no. 1 hits in Sweden (69 weeks at no. 1). (Tio i Topp)

* 21 no. 1 hits in The Netherlands (95 weeks at no. 1).

* 21 no. 1 hits in Norway (97 weeks at no. 1). (VG)

* 20 no. 1 hits in America (59 weeks at no. 1). (Billboard)

* 18 no. 1 hits in Denmark (104 weeks at no. 1). (Billboard & Musikmarkt & NME)

* 18 no. 1 hits in Germany (88 weeks at no. 1). (Bravo)

* 12 no. 1 hits in Germany (40 weeks at no. 1). (Hit Bilanz)

* 12 no. 1 hits in Germany (43 weeks at no. 1). (Amtage & Muller)

* 17 no. 1 hits in Britain (69 weeks at no. 1). (Record Retailer

* 16 no. 1 hits in Hong Kong (67 weeks at no 1). (Billboard)

* 15 no. 1 hits in New Zealand (35 weeks at no. 1). (The Listener 1966 onwards)

* 13 no. 1 hits in Ireland (47 weeks at no. 1).

* 13 no. 1 hits in Malaysia. (Billboard)

* 9 no. 1 hits in Spain (17 weeks at no. 1).

* 8 no. 1 hits in Zimbabwe (29 weeks at no. 1).

* 8 no. 1 hits in Switzerland (37 weeks at no. 1).

* 6 no. 1 hits in Austria (38 weeks at no. 1).

* 6 no. 1 hits in Belgium (22 weeks at no. 1).

* 5 no. 1 hits in Finland.

* 4 no. 1 hits in Italy (18 weeks at no. 1).

* 2 no. 1 hits in Ethiopia (98 weeks at no. 1)

[ZeppFanForever]

I beg to differ. Im 43 and grew up in Southern California. Queen were unquestionably among the pantheon in our schools and among our friends.

How's it going "Evster2012?" I hope all is well with you and welcome to this interesting conversation. This is where you and I have so much in common Evster, I'm 48 years old and I'm from Northern and Southern California and I do not recall QUEEN never being popular in the US or at least in California in the 1970's and 1980's or at all. Growing up in high school, QUEEN'S name was always mentioned among the elite bands such as THE BEATLES, LED ZEPPELIN, FLEETWOOD MAC, PINK FLOYD, BLACK SABBATH, THE WHO and THE ROLLING STONES to name a few. Matter of fact, one of my high school's foreign exchange students was from England and he did not praise the British bands like Americans did but he sure praised JIMI HENDRIX, an American that made it in England first before he ever made it here in the states. I always found that strange although I do love HENDRIX very much. ROCK ON!

[ZeppFanForever]

just for your consideration: worldwide record sales-the beatles:

Britain

* Most no. 1 albums in the British albums chart (15 no. 1s).

o Please Please Me (1963, 30 weeks), With the Beatles (1963, 21 weeks), A Hard Day's Night (1964, 21 weeks), Beatles for Sale (1964, 10 weeks), Help! (1965, 9 weeks), Rubber Soul (1965, 9 weeks), Revolver (1966, 7 weeks), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967, 27 weeks), The Beatles (The White Album) (1968, 8 weeks), Abbey Road (1969, 17 weeks), Let It Be (1970, 3 weeks), The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl (1977, 1 week), Live at the BBC (1994, 1 week), Anthology 2 (1996, 1 week), 1 (2000, 9 weeks)

* Group with most no. 1 hits in the British singles chart (17 no. 1s).

"From Me to You" (1963, 7 weeks), "She Loves You" (1963, 6 weeks), "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1963, 5 weeks), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964, 3 weeks), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964, 3 weeks), "I Feel Fine" (1964, 5 weeks), "Ticket to Ride" (1965, 3 weeks), "Help!" (1965, 3 weeks), "We Can Work It Out"/"Day Tripper" (1965, 5 weeks), "Paperback Writer" (1966, 2 weeks), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966, 4 weeks), "All You Need Is Love" (1967, 3 weeks), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967, 7 weeks), "Lady Madonna" (1968, 2 weeks), "Hey Jude" (1968, 2 weeks), "Get Back" (1969, 6 weeks), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969, 2 weeks).

(Consider that these 17 no. 1 hits were achieved in the UK official charts from Record Retailer. New Musical Express listed The Beatles with 18 no. 1 hits, as "Please Please Me" was no. 1 for 2 weeks. Also consider that "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" was no. 1 in Melody Maker.)

* Group with most weeks in the British singles chart (456 weeks).

* Group with most weeks at no. 1 in the British singles chart (69 weeks).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the British singles chart (28 top 10 hits).

o "Please Please Me" (1963, #2), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967, #2), Magical Mystery Tour EP (1967, #2), "Something"/"Come Together" (1969, #4), "Let It Be" (1970, #2), "Yesterday" (1976, #8), "The Beatles Movie Medley" (1982, #10), "Love Me Do" [re-entry] (1982, #4), "Baby It's You" (1995, #7), "Free as a Bird" (1995, #2), "Real Love" (1996, #4)

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the British albums chart (174 weeks at no. 1).

* Most consecutive weeks spent at no. 1 in the UK albums chart (51 weeks from May 11, 1963 to May 2, 1964 – this excludes soundtrack albums).

* Most consecutive no. 1 hits in the British singles chart (11 consecutive no. 1 hits, excludes re-issues of old singles).

* Most consecutive top 5 hits in the British singles chart (22 consecutive top 5 hits from 1963 to 1970).

* Most complete ever domination of the British charts by occupying the first two positions in the singles chart and the albums chart as well as the top 3 positions in the EP chart (Extended Play) from December 12 to December 26, 1963.

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the British albums chart within a calendar year (40 weeks at no. 1, 1964).

* Most no. 1 albums in the British albums chart within a calendar year (3 no. 1 albums, 1965).

* Most simultaneous weeks at no. 1 in the British singles and albums chart (45 weeks).

* First act to replace itself at the no. 1 position in the British singles charts (December 12, 1963).

* First act to replace itself at the no. 1 position in the British albums chart (December 7, 1963).

* The Beatles’ Please Please Me album spent more weeks at no. 1 in the British album charts than any other album by a group (30 weeks at no. 1, this excludes albums by duos and soundtracks).

* Most debuts at no. 1 in the British albums chart (8 no. 1 debuts, record shared with David Bowie)

* Group with the most consecutive weeks inside the British singles chart (105 consecutive weeks, from October 11, 1962 to October 15, 1964).

* Group with most single hits charted in the British singles chart simultaneously (6 hits on April 17, 1976).

* Biggest ever jump within the British albums chart (94 positions jumped by Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band from no. 97 to no. 3 in 1987) (record surpassed in 2008 by Leona Lewis's Spirit album.

* Most consecutive weeks inside the top 10 of the British albums chart (171 consecutive weeks from 1963 to 1966).

* Most consecutive Christmas number one singles (3), (shared with The Spice Girls).

America

* Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (20 no.1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1964, 7 weeks), "She Loves You" (1964, 2 weeks), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964, 5 weeks), "Love Me Do" (1964, 1 week), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964, 2 weeks), "I Feel Fine" (1964, 3 weeks), "Eight Days a Week" (1965, 2 weeks), "Ticket to Ride" (1965, 1 week), "Help!" (1965, 3 weeks), "Yesterday" (1965, 4 weeks), "We Can Work It Out" (1965, 3 weeks), "Paperback Writer" (1966, 2 weeks), "Penny Lane" (1967, 1 week), "All You Need Is Love" (1967, 1 week), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967, 3 weeks), "Hey Jude" (1968, 9 weeks), "Get Back" (1969, 5 weeks), "Come Together"/"Something" (1969, 1 week), "Let It Be" (1970, 2 weeks), "The Long and Winding Road" (1970, 2 weeks)

* Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard Top 200 albums charts (19 no.1 albums).

Meet the Beatles! (1964, 11 weeks), The Beatles' Second Album (1964, 5 weeks), A Hard Day's Night (1964, 14 weeks), Beatles '65 (1965, 9 weeks), Beatles VI (1965, 6 weeks), Help! (1965, 9 weeks), Rubber Soul (1965, 6 weeks), Yesterday...and Today (1966, 5 weeks), Revolver (1966, 6 weeks), Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967, 15 weeks), Magical Mystery Tour (1967, 8 weeks), The Beatles (The White Album) (1969, 9 weeks), Abbey Road (1969, 11 weeks), Let It Be (1970, 4 weeks), 1967-1970 (The Blue Album) (1973, 1 week), Anthology 1 (1995, 3 weeks), Anthology 2 (1996, 1 week), Anthology 3 (1996, 1 week), 1 (2000, 8 weeks)

* Most 2-sided charted singles in the Billboard Hot 100 charts (26 singles, including two double-sided #1 hits, although "For You Blue" (B-side of "The Long And Winding Road") accompanied its A-side and did not chart on its own)

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard albums chart (132 weeks at no. 1).

* Group with most weeks in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (609 weeks).

* Group with most weeks at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (59 weeks at no. 1).

* Most songs inside the Billboard Hot 100 at the same time (14 songs on April 11, 1964).

* Most songs inside the Billboard Top 40 at the same time (7 songs on April 11 and 25, 1964).

* Most songs in the Billboard Top 10 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).

* Most songs in the Billboard Top 5 at the same time (5 songs on April 4, 1964).

* Most chart entries in the Billboard Hot 100 within a calendar year (30 charted songs in 1964)

* The only group to replace themselves at no. 1 in the Billboard Hot 100 twice (March 21 and April 4, 1964). It would be forty years later when Usher would tie the record.

* Most complete ever domination of the Billboard Hot 100 singles and albums chart by occupying the first 5 positions in the Hot 100 as well as the first two in the albums chart simultaneously (April 4, 1964).

* Most consecutive no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (8 consecutive no. 1 albums from 1965 to 1968).

* Most consecutive top 5 albums in the Billboard albums chart (16 consecutive top 5 albums from 1965 to 1977).

* Group with the longest span of no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart (36 years and 51 weeks, 1964 to 2001).

* Group with most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 (6 consecutive no. 1 hits, record shared with the Bee Gees).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Billboard albums chart in a calendar year (3 no. 1 albums in 1964, repeated in 1965 and 1966).

* Most no. 1 singles in the Billboard Hot 100 in a calendar year (6 no. 1 singles in 1964)

* The only act to have held the no. 1 and no. 2 position in the Billboard albums chart for 9 straight weeks on two separate occasions (March 2 to April 27 and August 29 to October 24, 1964).

* Most top 3 albums in the Billboard albums chart (27 top 3 albums).

* Most transatlantic no. 1 hit singles (13 songs reached no. 1 in both the U.S. and Britain).

"She Loves You," "I Want to Hold Your Hand," "Can't Buy Me Love," "A Hard Day's Night," "I Feel Fine," "Ticket to Ride," "Help!," "We Can Work It Out," "Paperback Writer," "All You Need Is Love," "Hello, Goodbye," "Hey Jude," "Get Back"

* Group with most consecutive top 5 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (17 consecutive top 5 hits from 1964 to 1969).

* Group with most consecutive top 10 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (24 consecutive top 10 hits from 1964 to 1976).

* Group with most consecutive top 20 hits in the Billboard Hot 100 chart (27 consecutive top 20 hits from 1964 to 1976).

* On April 4, 1964, the Beatles occupied the first 5 positions in the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, the top 2 in the Billboard albums chart, the no. 1 position in the British singles chart, the first two positions in the British albums chart and the no. 1 position in the British EP chart, making this the most complete ever domination of the British and American charts in history.

* Most no. 1 singles in the Cash Box Top 100 charts (22 no.1s).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Cash Box albums charts (15 no.1 albums).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Cash Box albums chart (127 weeks at no. 1).

* Longest span of Top Ten singles in "Cash Box" history ("I Want To Hold Your Hand" - January 25, 1964 to "Real Love" - March 30, 1996 - 32 years, 2 months, 5 days.)

* Group with most weeks in the Cash Box albums chart (722 weeks up to 1974).

* Group with most weeks in the Cash Box singles chart (601 weeks up to 1986).

* Group with most weeks in the Record World albums chart (849 weeks up to 1982).

* Group with most weeks in the Record World singles chart (520 weeks up to 1980).

* Most no. 1 singles in the Record World Top 100 charts (23 no.1s).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Record World albums charts (17 no.1 albums).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Record World albums chart (123 weeks at no. 1).

Other countries

* Most no. 1 hits in the German singles chart (12 no. 1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1964), "Paperback Writer" (1966), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967), "All You Need Is Love" (1967), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967), "Hey Jude" (1968), "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" (1969), "Get Back" (1969), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969), "Something"/"Come Together" (1969), "Let It Be" (1970)

* Most no. 1 hits in the Australian singles chart (23 no. 1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand" (1963), "I Saw Her Standing There" (1964), All My Loving EP (1964), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964), "I Should Have Known Better" (1964), "I Feel Fine" (1964), "Rock and Roll Music" (1965), "Ticket to Ride" (1965), "Help!" (1965), "Day Tripper"/"We Can Work It Out" (1965), "Nowhere Man" (1966), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967), "All You Need Is Love" (1967), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967), "Lady Madonna" (1968), "Hey Jude" (1968), "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" (1969), "Get Back" (1969), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969), "Something"/"Come Together" (1969), "Let It Be" (1970) [1]

* Most no. 1 hits in the Dutch singles chart (21 no. 1s).

"I Want to Hold Your Hand' (1964), "Can't Buy Me Love" (1964), Long Tall Sally EP (1964), "A Hard Day's Night" (1964), "I Should Have Known Better" (1964), "I Feel Fine" (1964), "Rock and Roll Music" (1965), "Ticket to Ride" (1965), "Help!" (1965), "Yesterday" (1965), "We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper" (1965), "Michelle" (1966), "Paperback Writer" (1966), "Yellow Submarine"/"Eleanor Rigby" (1966), "Penny Lane"/"Strawberry Fields Forever" (1967), "All You Need Is Love" (1967), "Hello, Goodbye" (1967), "Hey Jude" (1968), "Get Back" (1969), "The Ballad of John and Yoko" (1969), "Let It Be" (1970)

* Most no. 1 hits in the Swedish singles chart (18 no. 1s).

* Most no. 1 hits in the Canadian singles chart (22 no. 1s, CHUM chart).

* Most no. 1 hits in the Norwegian singles chart (21 no. 1s).

* Most hits in the German singles chart within a calendar year (16 hits, 1964).

* Most consecutive top 10 hits in the German singles chart (17, from 1965 to 1970).

* Most no. 1 hits in the German singles chart within a calendar year (4 no. 1 hits in 1969, record shared with ABBA).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the German singles chart (29 top 10 hits).

* Group with most weeks in the German singles chart (589 weeks).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the German albums chart (113 weeks at no. 1).

* Group with most weeks in the German albums chart (1,180 weeks up to 2000).

* Group with most no. 1 albums in the German albums chart (11 no. 1 albums).

* The double album The Beatles/1962-1966 spent more weeks in the German album charts top 10 than any other artist album (124 weeks, only beaten by soundtracks My Fair Lady and West Side Story).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the German albums chart within a calendar year (36 weeks at no. 1 in 1964, excludes soundtracks).

* Group with most albums in the German albums chart within a calendar year (6 albums in 1964).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Dutch singles chart (67 weeks at no. 1).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Dutch singles chart within a calendar year (29 weeks, 1965).

* Most top 10 hits in the Dutch singles chart (35 top 10 hits).

* Most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Dutch singles chart (6 consecutive no. 1 hits).

* Group with most weeks in the Dutch singles chart (523 weeks).

* Only act to debut at no. 1 in the Dutch singles chart (3 times).

* Most no. 1 albums in the Norwegian albums chart (12 no. 1 albums).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian singles chart (97 weeks at no. 1).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian albums chart (182 weeks at no. 1).

* With The Beatles spent more weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian albums chart than any other artist album (31 weeks at no. 1, second only to soundtrack The Sound of Music).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian singles chart within a calendar year (25 weeks at no. 1 in 1966).

* Most weeks at no. 1 in the Norwegian albums chart within a calendar year (48 weeks at no. 1 in 1964).

* Most consecutive no. 1 singles in the Norwegian singles chart (8 consecutive no. 1 singles from 1965 to 1967).

* Most hit singles within a calendar year in the Norwegian singles chart (10 hit singles in 1964).

* Most no. 1 hit singles within a calendar year in the Norwegian singles chart (6 no. 1 hits in 1964).

* Most consecutive no. 1 hits in the Swiss singles chart (5 consecutive no. 1 hits from 1968 to 1970, chart only started in 1968).

* Group with most weeks in the Australian singles chart (604 weeks).

* Group with most weeks in the Finnish singles chart (437 weeks).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the Austrian singles chart (25 top 10 hits).

* Group with most top 10 hits in the Danish singles chart (33 top 10 hits).

* 26 no. 1 hits in Australia (130 weeks at no. 1). (David Kent)

* 23 no. 1 hits in Australia (101 weeks at no. 1). (Top 40 Research)

* 22 no. 1 hits in Canada (74 weeks at no. 1). (Chum)

* 22 no. 1 hits in Sweden (95 weeks at no. 1). (Kvallstoppen)

* 18 no. 1 hits in Sweden (69 weeks at no. 1). (Tio i Topp)

* 21 no. 1 hits in The Netherlands (95 weeks at no. 1).

* 21 no. 1 hits in Norway (97 weeks at no. 1). (VG)

* 20 no. 1 hits in America (59 weeks at no. 1). (Billboard)

* 18 no. 1 hits in Denmark (104 weeks at no. 1). (Billboard & Musikmarkt & NME)

* 18 no. 1 hits in Germany (88 weeks at no. 1). (Bravo)

* 12 no. 1 hits in Germany (40 weeks at no. 1). (Hit Bilanz)

* 12 no. 1 hits in Germany (43 weeks at no. 1). (Amtage & Muller)

* 17 no. 1 hits in Britain (69 weeks at no. 1). (Record Retailer

* 16 no. 1 hits in Hong Kong (67 weeks at no 1). (Billboard)

* 15 no. 1 hits in New Zealand (35 weeks at no. 1). (The Listener 1966 onwards)

* 13 no. 1 hits in Ireland (47 weeks at no. 1).

* 13 no. 1 hits in Malaysia. (Billboard)

* 9 no. 1 hits in Spain (17 weeks at no. 1).

* 8 no. 1 hits in Zimbabwe (29 weeks at no. 1).

* 8 no. 1 hits in Switzerland (37 weeks at no. 1).

* 6 no. 1 hits in Austria (38 weeks at no. 1).

* 6 no. 1 hits in Belgium (22 weeks at no. 1).

* 5 no. 1 hits in Finland.

* 4 no. 1 hits in Italy (18 weeks at no. 1).

* 2 no. 1 hits in Ethiopia (98 weeks at no. 1)

How's it going "beatbo" my buddy? YOU TELL THEM MY FRIEND! THE BEATLES accomplishments and achievements remain UNTOUCHED to this very day! But like you said my friend and I will never forget it: THE BEATLES WERE GREAT BUT LED ZEPPELIN DID IT BETTER MUSIC WISE AS WELL AS LIVE PERFORMANCE WISE! LED ZEPPELIN took Music and live performances to another level unimagined. ROCK ON my friend!

[beatbo]

sorry about the previous post but it was only to make a point. there is only one artist that can even come close to the beatles when it comes to worldwide sales: elvis presley. no one else is even close. (not zep, not pink floyd, not the eagles, not garth, not michael jackson, okay? NO ONE.) the only way to spin these numbers is to conclude that more people all over the world have chosen with money the beatles as the greatest band.

but we know that this does not define greatness. to judge both bands and to leave their record sales out of it (only fair) makes this discussion purely subjective.

i say: like 'em both! the beatles like zep! zep liked the beatles! what's so hard?

fabulous opinions, by the way, from everyone. it may feel irritating to some but you can get to the meat of the matter by slighting someones fave...

[beatbo]

How's it going "beatbo" my buddy? YOU TELL THEM MY FRIEND! THE BEATLES accomplishments and achievements remain UNTOUCHED to this very day! But like you said my friend and I will never forget it: THE BEATLES WERE GREAT BUT LED ZEPPELIN DID IT BETTER MUSIC WISE AS WELL AS LIVE PERFORMANCE WISE! LED ZEPPELIN took Music and live performances to another level unimagined. ROCK ON my friend!

jimmy page live is the ultimate music experience for me. it always has been....

[ZeppFanForever]

sorry about the previous post but it was only to make a point. there is only one artist that can even come close to the beatles when it comes to worldwide sales: elvis presley. no one else is even close. (not zep, not pink floyd, not the eagles, not garth, not michael jackson, okay? NO ONE.) the only way to spin these numbers is to conclude that more people all over the world have chosen with money the beatles as the greatest band.

but we know that this does not define greatness. to judge both bands and to leave their record sales out of it (only fair) makes this discussion purely subjective.

i say: like 'em both! the beatles like zep! zep liked the beatles! what's so hard?

fabulous opinions, by the way, from everyone. it may feel irritating to some but you can get to the meat of the matter by slighting someones fave...

How's it going "beatbo" my buddy? I have to admit, I am really impressed with all of the posts on this thread. ROCK ON!

[pagemccartney95]

Hi Jo,

No, lets agree to agree on this one, i have looked back over many of our posts and have re-evaluated my own thinking and i am very tempted to agree with many other posters on here, Beatbo, ZFF and your dear self included.

When i called them a "Boy Band" i was refering to the Then not the Now, so i would tend to agree with you on this one.

If your of the thinking that in Pop Music other people write the material for you, like in the case of Robbie Williams, then yes you can class the Beatles as a Rock band because they write their own Music and Lyrics.

Its probably my take on what is and what isnt Rock that you and many others will take issue with, with some its a very fine line, with me it isnt, to me the Beatles are a Pop band because they manufactured Songs, Image, TV and the Media to incourage Young people, esp Girls, to become Fanaticle about what was just an Image or a Fashon, that to me is what Pop is any why i shun it.

Whereas Robert Plant said recently, "It was never about the fans, it was about us enjoying our music" and thats what makes Led Zeppelin a Rock Band and not a Pop orientated Band, they made songs for themselves not to please fans, if i stay focused on the "Music" then Led Zeppelin will always come out on top for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music

I have re-evalueated my reasoning after examining this link, there is so much more than meets the eye here, and although not "dazed" i am a bit "confused" by it.

Regards, Danny

Hey there, Danny

I'm glad we've come to an agreement of sorts.

I now get that you meant the Then, not the Now, when calling the Beatles a "Boy Band". When I think of boy bands I think of the manufactured teenyboppers, not real bands simply consisting of young guys.

Not all music in the POP world isn't written by other people, but when talking about boy bands, it usually is. Not saying I'm a fan, but, I will, however, give some credit to the Jonas Brothers for possessing the ability to write and play their own music.

The Beatles were kind of aimed specifically at teenage girls, but technically, all bands are; the music market is sort of run by the choices of teenage buyers.

You make a good point about Zep. They aimed to make the music they liked; other people liking it was just a major bonus.

I'll check out the link soon. Maybe I'll change my stance, too.

L8r,

Jo

[Aquamarine]

Crap, we've been arguing in circles then. Apparently, we agree. I just don't know what to do with myself now, Aqua.

Oh, hell, let's go out for a drink.

[Mercurious One]

When I was a little kid I loved The Beatles! They were "fun". But I really liked the darker songs like She's So Heavy. Then I heard Dazed and Confused. Led Zeppelin were dark and mysterious. I got totally sucked into that. I still enjoy and admire The Beatles, but I wouldn't have much to say on a Beatles forum, lol! Beatles for me are a pleasure. Zeppelin are a need!

[Reggie29]

just for your consideration: worldwide record sales-the beatles:

Take away all the singles from all three and album sales would probably be negligible (frankly I couldn't care less who sold more records than the other).

Zeppelin were primarily an album band whereas The Beatles relied heavily on singles to sell their albums.

Record sales never reflects how good a band is live.

I never saw The Beatles in 1964 but girls in my neighbourhood who did see them at the time were all screaming teenyboppers as were all girls everywhere at the height of Beatlemania which continued until about 1966.

When Sgt. Peppers was released everything changed, except they still released singles.

Say what you will when it comes down to concert presentation Led Zeppelin leaves everyone else for dead and that includes The Beatles.

I have seen lots of Beatle footage and Zeppelin (live as well as video) and the sound of both compared to each other is chalk and cheese with Zeppelin the clear winner.

The proof is that The Beatles "retired" from live concerts in the mid sixties (unless you call the 1969 rooftop gig on top of the Apple building a "concert" as featured Let It Be), to concentrate on studio works.

Zeppelin started out as a live band playing their right up until the end and had Bonzo survived they would have recorded and toured well into the '80's.

[Aquamarine]

The Beatles' popularity never relied on their live performances, it's true, which during their heyday were minimal, though that's where they really honed their craft in earlier years (like most bands).

Did the girls you knew see them in Australia, Reggie? I didn't think they got down there in 1964.

[eternal light]

The Beatles' popularity never relied on their live performances, it's true, which during their heyday were minimal, though that's where they really honed their craft in earlier years (like most bands).

Did the girls you knew see them in Australia, Reggie? I didn't think they got down there in 1964.

I know that my name is not Reggie, but...

[Reggie29]

The Beatles' popularity never relied on their live performances, it's true, which during their heyday were minimal, though that's where they really honed their craft in earlier years (like most bands).

Did the girls you knew see them in Australia, Reggie? I didn't think they got down there in 1964.

Yeah my mates sister was about sixteen (I was 10), when she and her friends from school went down to The Stadium in Rushcutters Bay Sydney commplete with We love You Paul and John etc posters, the lot.

They raved about it for years.

It was 45 years ago yesterday, Paul celebrated his 22nd birthday on the night.

[eternal light]

Yeah my mates sister was about sixteen (I was 10), when she and her friends from school went down to The Stadium in Rushcutters Bay Sydney commplete with We love You Paul and John etc posters, the lot.

They raved about it for years.

It was 45 years ago yesterday, Paul celebrated his 22nd birthday on the night.

[Aquamarine]

Wow, 45 years ago . . .

Now that I think about it, I guess they were more established than I'd remembered by that time--it was amazing, actually, how fast it all happened once they took off.

I'd have raved about it for years, too! I just missed seeing them in Margate (UK) because I was deemed too young, and there was never another chance.

[Mangani]

3. If Led Zeppelin didnt have the American market and only relied on the UKs interest then in my honest opinion we wouldnt be here talking because they would never have been the Huge success that they were and in fact are. The Beatles would have and did make it Big in the Uk because they were just what the Media and Pop Fans wanted.

Hmmm Danny in England, all of Led Zeppelin's albums went to number one except for the first one which went to number 6. Led Zeppelin would still have been a highly successful band in England.

Look at the RAH gig on the DVD in early '70. The London crowd there are going nuts. That's got nothing to do with their American success. Nor did Zeppelin winning all those Melody Maker readers polls.

By the way, the British media rarely mentioned Zeppelin's American success so to many people here it just wasn't something that came up much and there is no correlation between people liking a band just because Americans do. If you like a band then you like them. It's as simple as that.

4. Dont believe the Hype People of Americia, you made Led Zeppelin what they are today not us here in the UK, after the Media slated them for only playing big stadiums, they went on a Small Town Tour of the UK and in some places played in front of a hanful of People, Robert Plant has verified this, this never happened in Americia.

Robert says a lot of exaggerated things. He even claimed people used to slow handclap Stairway, which Jimmy denied.

Are you refering to their 'Return to the clubs' tour in early '71?

The British music press were overall more positive towards Led Zeppelin's debut album than the American press were. The American press mainly panned Zeppelin early on so it's a complete myth that the U.S media loved them and the British media hated them.

[Mangani]

Why are Queen so unpopular in the US?

Can somebody tell me, I never really understood.

Queen's songs are very well known in the U.S and everyone seems to know who Freddie Mercury is.

Amazing really considering they didn't sell a staggering amount of records there (like Zeppelin) or play to huge crowds.

Just goes to show that you don't have to be enormously successful to get rammed down people's throats.

We Will Rock You, for example, is played in a lot of sports stadiums.

[Evster2012]

Well FWIW, we Yanks have bought up around 32.5 million Queen albums, which is more than The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Frank Sinatra, The Who, Black Sabbath, or YES.

Hardly shunned.

[Mangani]

Well FWIW, we Yanks have bought up around 32.5 million Queen albums, Hardly shunned.

That's not a 'staggering' amount of albums and they didn't play to huge crowds there either.

I didn't say they were shunned. I said they are very very well known.

[Evster2012]

That's not a 'staggering' amount of albums and they didn't play to huge crowds there either.

I didn't say they were shunned. I said they are very very well known.

Sorry. I didn't mean to imply you had said shunned.

I am curious what you mean by huge crowds. They essentially toured all the same venues as Zeppelin. Perhaps not as many nights, but a great portion of Zep's audience went to multiple nights.

News of the World 1977:

11.11.1977 Portland, USA

12.11.1977 Boston, USA

13.11.1977 Springfield, USA

15.11.1977 Providence, USA

16.11.1977 New Haven, USA

18.11.1977 Detroit, USA

19.11.1977 Detroit, USA

21.11.1977 Toronto, Canada

23.11.1977 Philadelphia, USA

24.11.1977 Philadelphia, USA

25.11.1977 Norfolk, USA

27.11.1977 Richfield, USA

29.11.1977 Washington, USA

01.12.1977 New York, USA

02.12.1977 New York, USA

04.12.1977 Dayton, USA

05.12.1977 Chicago, USA

08.12.1977 Atlanta, USA

10.12.1977 Fort Worth, USA

11.12.1977 Houston, USA

15.12.1977 Las Vegas, USA

16.12.1977 San Diego, USA

17.12.1977 Oakland, USA

20.12.1977 Long Beach, USA

21.12.1977 Long Beach, USA

22.12.1977 Inglewood, USA

I realise 32 million isn't a "staggering" amount of sales, when compared to Zeppelin, but I'm responding primarily to those who've stated that they were unpopular or implied they were largely ignored in the US.

I will offer this though. After Jazz, there was a musical shift in direction. Radio Gaga, Flash Gordon. I don't think that suited American tastes at the time. And sure enough it was at this time that Queen's appearances became less and less in the states. They also really started concentrating their audience into massive festival crowd shows, which weren't really happening here. If anything, I think perhaps our arenas became too small for Queen. Just my humble opinion.

[BIGDAN]

Er, no. Or at least, none of my friends (or I) would. In fact the UK was an amazing place to be for a rock fan. Unless you're talking about a different day from me!

Er, YES, i'm talking about how the Media, TV, Radio, Newspapers didnt give Rock Music in General and Led Zeppelin in particular, any Air Time or Colum Space, not the Fans or the Fan base.

I cant remember, apart from an interview by "Whispering Bob Harris" on "The Old Grey Whistle Test" any time Led Zeppelin were seen on British TV, there was no Radio Station that would Entertain their Music either, their only concern was with Pop Music, like with the "Beatles" in the 60s, even to this day the British Media in General is more interested in a Fashonable, Trendy, Young, Good Loking Band than one thet has Real Talent like the sort of Talent that Led Zeppelin had.

The "Different Day" i'm talking about is between 1969 through to 1975.

Took this from BBC Home.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southampton/music/ogwt_memories.shtml

Dino, Coleraine N Ireland

"Probabaly seeing Alice Cooper for the first time and thinking what the hell is that, but liking the rock n roll!! [under My Wheels I think?]

Also watching every week for anything to do with Led Zeppelin which never happened unfortunately except getting Trampled Underfoot played with one of the ubiquitous "cartoons". Gutted I was!"

If you prove me wrong Aqua i'm booking a Lobotomy straight away mate.

Kind Regards, Danny

[BIGDAN]

Crap, we've been arguing in circles then. Apparently, we agree. I just don't know what to do with myself now, Aqua.

Hi Moon,

"Shut up, Sit Down and keep looking Pretty"

Thats what i always tells me girls, and it has always works for me darling.

Sorry.

Kind Regards, Danny

[beatbo]

Take away all the singles from all three and album sales would probably be negligible (frankly I couldn't care less who sold more records than the other).

Zeppelin were primarily an album band whereas The Beatles relied heavily on singles to sell their albums.

Record sales never reflects how good a band is live.

album sales for the beatles worldwide is over 1 billion. zeppelin is between 299 million and 400 million.

i agree about sales doesn't = great live band.

zeppelin was an album band-THE album band. but it was a genre created by the beatles, who sold singles and albums but albums like revolver, etc. sgt. pepper: no single (penny lane/strawberry fields and all you need is love were not on the album). the result: the beatles best selling album.

[Reggie29]

album sales for the beatles worldwide is over 1 billion. zeppelin is between 299 million and 400 million.

i agree about sales doesn't = great live band.

zeppelin was an album band-THE album band. but it was a genre created by the beatles, who sold singles and albums but albums like revolver, etc. sgt. pepper: no single (penny lane/strawberry fields and all you need is love were not on the album). the result: the beatles best selling album.

There was a single of Sgt Peppers / With A Little Help From My Friends released in Oz in 1978, 12 years after the album was released, not no. 1 though.

Within You Without You by Harrison is my favourite track.

Look, once you've sold albums in the 100's of millions it's all redundant really.

I reckon most people have replaced an album or two over the years from breakage or loss and wear and tear etc.

So numbers don't mean much when there are repeat buyers and simply because not everyone of those sales of a billion albums were sold to a billion individuals.

Zeppelin didn't record many songs under three minutes and conversely The Beatles never released many over and for that reason alone proves Zep were the superior album band.

One thing about some of The Beatles albums (Rubber Soul for example), is they could be interpreted as "best of's" because of the content.

If only they were more powerful, okay, louder on more of their songs but it was not meant to be.

Zeppelin are light and shade, The Beatles are night and day.

Viva le difference!