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[Spalove]

Angela Corey has charged George Zimmerman with Murder 2.

Finally Trayvon Martin is getting justice.

[Rock Historian]

Why didn't you post this in the Trayvon Martin thread?

[mstork]

http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=23085.msg102895#msg102895

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Maybe I'm thick but what does this have to do with Trayvon Martin?

[Walter]

So, what happened to the other thread? And I see someone has been banned last night too....any correlation?

I have no idea what lead the State's Attorney to set the charge at 2nd degree murder, but there has to be some evidence to support it - you would think - or her reputation would be on the line. Then again, things are never as clear as they seem.....

Welcome "new member" ^ you were a busy boy last night, on your first night here!

[dazedcat]

Like I said in the other thread, murder 2 is going to be difficult to make stick. They're treading on a dangerous political path here.

[Walter]

^ No, that was first degree murder they were trying to get in the Anthony trial.

[greenman]

My point was that they overcharged in that Casey Anthony case. By charging with murder (1 or 2) you leave out the possibility that it was not intentional. I think most of the jurors wanted to believe that Casey neglected her child and then something happened, and then she tried to cover it up. It's a big leap to say that Zimmerman premeditated this killing. I think he was doing something he shouldn't have and it went wrong. That is manslaughter.

The murder 2 charge does not I believe mean that Zimmerman cannot also be charged with manslughter since both offences would cover the same ground with intent being the only difference. The Casey Antony case was very different given that the case for murder and neglect would obviously be vastly different meaning both could not be brought at once.

For a murder charge to stick it does not need to be prooven that Zimmerman intented to kill, merely that he intended to cause serious harm or went into the situation in a reckless manner likely to lead to it.

Just going from the phone evidense we already have I'd say theres a case to answer, we seem to hear that Zimmerman is personally aggrieved at suspect robbers "getting away with it" and ignores police advice not to follow Martin.

Edited by greenman, 18 April 2012 - 02:40 AM.

[kaiser]

So, what happened to the other thread? And I see someone has been banned last night too....any correlation?

In a sense thank goodness it's gone. I felt dirty going into that seedy den of inequity & I'm glad the ramblings of that Colonol Kurtz like character have been put to an end.

[Major Major]

In a sense thank goodness it's gone. I felt dirty going into that seedy den of inequity & I'm glad the ramblings of that Colonol Kurtz like character have been put to an end.

What happened there? I missed it. Did the Mad Hatter finally push the self-destruct button?

[Walter]

What happened there? I missed it. Did the Mad Hatter finally push the self-destruct button?

It appears so....but there is another torch bearer to take his place.

Never seen that before, have we?

Greenman, I believe you are correct in your assessment of the situation and charges.

[Walter]

I certainly hope you are not comparing that person to me just because I have a different opinion than you on this Trayvon Martin case? Because that would make you look silly.

How would you know what my opinion of the case is, seeing that you have been here less than 48 hours and the thread that was used as a basis for discussion has been removed?

Unless, of course, you are not new here....if that's the case then step up and say so.

I could care less if your opinion differs from mine, it's called "free speech" as long as it's not offensive to the mods and the members here.

Peace.

[Anjin-san]

History repeats itself,.....again and again,....

[Walter]

History repeats itself,.....again and again,....

Agreed!

[zeplives66]

^ Now that's a funny post! You're correct sir, I am out of here before this completely derails....thanks!

YW....

Sometimes it is easier to accept that some human beings are just not properly toilet trained........

[Anjin-san]

Thanks,my response would have been outside,....

[zeplives66]

See, just like that hes gone. Back on topic for what i now expect to be a healthy discussion in regards to the Martin/Zimmerman case.

Edited by zeplives66, 18 April 2012 - 05:49 PM.

[Anjin-san]

A 'healthy' discussion would be welcomed,.....don't count on it.

[Bong-Man]

Oh he's not gone. In fact, he's always here.

[Rock Historian]

In a sense thank goodness it's gone. I felt dirty going into that seedy den of inequity & I'm glad the ramblings of that Colonol Kurtz like character have been put to an end.

I happen to see the post/quote that got Harruti (or however you say his name) banned. I thought it was low and tasteless. Much like BlabberRons comments on that thread, but with far more obvious racial slurs. I can't say he didn't deserve it. It was just a matter of time before it happened to someone there. Well, the true colors came out in the end- I actually felt a little embarrassed because I partially agreed with him on some statements, but the comment that resulted in his departure, is where we differ.

Edited by Rock Historian, 19 April 2012 - 03:38 PM.

[kaiser]

I happen to see the post/quote that got Harruti (or however you say his name) banned. I thought it was low and tasteless. Much like BlabberRons comments on that thread, but with far more obvious racial slurs. I can't say he didn't deserve it. It was just a matter of time before it happened to someone there. Well, the true colors came out in the end- I actually felt a little embarrassed because I partially agreed with him on some statements, but the comment that resulted in his departure, is where we differ.

That's the thing, none of us have to agree but I respect those who are looking at it from Zimmerman's angle but not those who are doing it to justify their own self serving agenda(s) or justifying their own racism. You're definately not in the latter but one gets extremist nuts on either side of it. My own outrage is gone because much like Martin's parents I just wanted Zimmerman to be brought into a court of law as I felt he has accountability for Martin's death & now he is awaiting trial with all the various information still being gathered eventually will determine what Zimmerman's accountability is if any... and that's it. No need for extremists to predict a post apocalyptic world of race riots due to this case as that loon & a few others were doing or the other deflections ie the media, Sharpton, skinheads, Obama, etc. I say for everyone to just stick with the legal case as it follows & not the circus or potential circus that may or may not go along with it as that's what shit stirrer's do.