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On 17/8/2016 at 1:42 PM, anniemouse said:

Am I reading too much into this but was that first car smash Robert and Maureen suffered way more serious than was reported at the time.

So it seems

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1 hour ago, Valerie Sunshine said:

I read robert's statements and many times he mentions bonzo. At some point of the trial he is asked who that bonzo was. I mean, come on!!!! The people involved in the trial should read about lz to start with!

It was Zeppelin's lawyer asking, and I'm sure he was asking "who's Bonzo" so as to make it clear to the jury who Plant was referring to. That's how I took it anyhow.

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On 7/26/2016 at 10:45 AM, ZepDomi said:

Who's the bigger scumbag, Malofiy or Skidmore?     At what point does Skidmore actually act like the trustee to the estate that he's supposed to be? 

Ok, so there's a U.S. nonprofit financials database called Guidestar. Anyone can set up an account and search basic financial information of nonprofit organizations and trusts all over the country. It's very comprehensive, as it includes every organization that has filed Form 990 tax form with the U.S. government. Want to know how much in assets Willie Dixon's Blues Heaven has laying around? It's on Guidestar, as well as the salary taken by Willie's daughter (it's not much) and some other information. Blues Heaven operates a museum/club where concerts and fundraisers are held, has assets of over $1 million, and does other work promoting the blues and helping blues artists recoup royalties, etc.  In other words, the foundation does what it says it's set up to do. 

Run a search for Randy Craig Wolfe Trust on Guidestar and you get nothing. Search for Randy Wolfe Trust you get nothing. Search for Randy Wolfe you get nothing. Search "Randy Craig" all over the U.S. you get nothing. Search Pennsylvania for every nonprofit with the name "Randy" attached to it and you get nothing related to anyone named Wolfe or Wolf. Search Pennsylvania for organizations with the name Wolf and you get many related to wolf preservation and a number of other foundations set up by people named Wolfe or Wolf but none of them named Randy.

The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust does not appear to exist as a charitable organization operating anywhere in the U.S. or in Pennsylvania where it is allegedly based. The validity of the trust was brought up at trial in a motion by Led Zep lawyers but was denied by the judge. This did not necessarily mean the motion had no merit, as it seemed the judge was reluctant to chuck the case on any technical motions (though he certainly could have on a couple of points).

It would seem The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust is operating in the dark until it can pull some funding from ... oh, Led Zeppelin of course ---  which means this entire charade appears to be an elaborate scam by Skidmore and the unfortunately named Malofiy, with the support of Wolfe's sisters, to shake down Led Zeppelin, known for settling its blues debts quietly and out of court. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Balthazor said:

It was Zeppelin's lawyer asking, and I'm sure he was asking "who's Bonzo" so as to make it clear to the jury who Plant was referring to. That's how I took it anyhow.

Yes you are right, my mistake 😢

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1 hour ago, Mercurious said:

Run a search for Randy Craig Wolfe Trust on Guidestar and you get nothing. Search for Randy Wolfe Trust you get nothing. Search for Randy Wolfe you get nothing. Search "Randy Craig" all over the U.S. you get nothing. Search Pennsylvania for every nonprofit with the name "Randy" attached to it and you get nothing related to anyone named Wolfe or Wolf. Search Pennsylvania for organizations with the name Wolf and you get many related to wolf preservation and a number of other foundations set up by people named Wolfe or Wolf but none of them named Randy.

The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust does not appear to exist as a charitable organization operating anywhere in the U.S. or in Pennsylvania where it is allegedly based.

 

That's very interesting. I know doing a Google search on the Randy Craig Wolfe Trust turns up nothing aside from stories of the trial, and searching for the Randy California Project brings up one 4 year old story about the project helping to provide instruments to low income students in one California school district. It doesn't appear to have a website or even a Facebook page. What kind of charitable organization doesn't have a website? I couldn't find an address or phone number or anything at all. How would someone donate to this organization, or ask for it's help? Listening to Randy's sisters talking after the trial, you'd think the Randy California Project was some great charity helping thousands of children, but as far as I can tell the Randy California Project keeps a lower profile than the Loch Ness monster.

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4 hours ago, Balthazor said:

That's very interesting. I know doing a Google search on the Randy Craig Wolfe Trust turns up nothing aside from stories of the trial, and searching for the Randy California Project brings up one 4 year old story about the project helping to provide instruments to low income students in one California school district. It doesn't appear to have a website or even a Facebook page. What kind of charitable organization doesn't have a website? I couldn't find an address or phone number or anything at all. How would someone donate to this organization, or ask for it's help? Listening to Randy's sisters talking after the trial, you'd think the Randy California Project was some great charity helping thousands of children, but as far as I can tell the Randy California Project keeps a lower profile than the Loch Ness monster.

So then I ask him what he wants and he say....um, three fitty. I knew right then it was that gosh darned Loch Ness monster again !

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6 hours ago, IpMan said:

So then I ask him what he wants and he say....um, three fitty. I knew right then it was that gosh darned Loch Ness monster again !

 

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14 hours ago, IpMan said:

So then I ask him what he wants and he say....um, three fitty. I knew right then it was that gosh darned Loch Ness monster again !

Ok that went waay over my head. :)

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On 8/18/2016 at 3:34 PM, Mercurious said:

Ok, so there's a U.S. nonprofit financials database called Guidestar. Anyone can set up an account and search basic financial information of nonprofit organizations and trusts all over the country. It's very comprehensive, as it includes every organization that has filed Form 990 tax form with the U.S. government. Want to know how much in assets Willie Dixon's Blues Heaven has laying around? It's on Guidestar, as well as the salary taken by Willie's daughter (it's not much) and some other information. Blues Heaven operates a museum/club where concerts and fundraisers are held, has assets of over $1 million, and does other work promoting the blues and helping blues artists recoup royalties, etc.  In other words, the foundation does what it says it's set up to do. 

Run a search for Randy Craig Wolfe Trust on Guidestar and you get nothing. Search for Randy Wolfe Trust you get nothing. Search for Randy Wolfe you get nothing. Search "Randy Craig" all over the U.S. you get nothing. Search Pennsylvania for every nonprofit with the name "Randy" attached to it and you get nothing related to anyone named Wolfe or Wolf. Search Pennsylvania for organizations with the name Wolf and you get many related to wolf preservation and a number of other foundations set up by people named Wolfe or Wolf but none of them named Randy.

The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust does not appear to exist as a charitable organization operating anywhere in the U.S. or in Pennsylvania where it is allegedly based. The validity of the trust was brought up at trial in a motion by Led Zep lawyers but was denied by the judge. This did not necessarily mean the motion had no merit, as it seemed the judge was reluctant to chuck the case on any technical motions (though he certainly could have on a couple of points).

It would seem The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust is operating in the dark until it can pull some funding from ... oh, Led Zeppelin of course ---  which means this entire charade appears to be an elaborate scam by Skidmore and the unfortunately named Malofiy, with the support of Wolfe's sisters, to shake down Led Zeppelin, known for settling its blues debts quietly and out of court. 

 

 

This is some terrific information, thanks for posting it.   Hopefully the media will pick up on this and expose The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust for what it really is.

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Just read the testimony published in rolling stone. Fascinating insight into the ideas behind and creation of stairway and how it had absolutely nothing to do with spirit. So I would say "thanks for clearing that one up for everyone  Malofiy" .

i would love to be able to have a listen to those early recording of page and Jones, particularly the parts that were ditched and didn't make it to the final version.

A great read but I can't help but wonder how stressful all that would have been. Its been an invasion of privacy, a real shame..

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On 8/20/2016 at 1:06 PM, ZepDomi said:

This is some terrific information, thanks for posting it.   Hopefully the media will pick up on this and expose The Randy Craig Wolfe Trust for what it really is.

Don't hold your breath on that one. I'm pretty sure the only reason the Randy Craig Wolfe Trust is relevant to anyone on the planet is because of it's association with the Stairway to Heaven trial. If any enterprising investigative journalist were going to poke into the legitimacy of the trust, they would have done so in the two years since the lawsuit was filed. Since nobody did, it means nobody cared, and they sure as hell aren't going to care now that the trial is over. If I had to guess, I would guess that without the shakedown money they were hoping to get from Zeppelin the trust will quietly fold within the next few years.

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This happened Aug. 8th. The Judge who allowed the suit to go forward (Klausner) ruled that Led Zeppelin & Warner/Chappell get no compensation from the Wolfe Trust for legal fees.  I suppose if he had granted the legal fees he would have been acknowledging that he made a mistake letting the suit move ahead to the jury.  The lawsuit was "not frivolous", Klausner ruled, and there was no evidence the Wolfe Trust "harbored nefarious motives."

http://www.vcstar.com/news/389540991.xhtml - "Led Zeppelin loses fight for legal fees in Stairway case" - Ventura Star, 08/08/16.

But he had some choice words for Malofiy:  "Throughout the course of litigation, plaintiff's counsel demonstrated a tenuous grasp of legal ethics and a rudimentary understanding of courtroom decorum," Klausner wrote.

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...and frame that with the obligatory appeal

more $$$ for the lawyers

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If they were so sure about the appeal, why take nearly 7 months to do it? $$$$$$

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2 hours ago, zeplz71 said:

Oh gawd. Make it stop. Here we go once again...it's like "Groundhog Day".

"A quick listen..." 

Yeah, no shit Sherlock...a quick and superficial listen and you can find similarities between any two pieces of music. But that is not what a court is for. In court you are going to get a thorough and in-depth listen, and that is why you lost and why you will continue to lose, Michael Skidmark.

Stop embarrassing yourself and dragging poor Randy California and his band Spirit down with you. Randy, being a musician, obviously knew he had no case and that's why he never sued Led Zeppelin. All these Johnny-come-lately bloodsucking leeches are doing is wasting time and money.

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These greedy assholes are going to keep dragging this thing out as long as they possibly can because the song is fucking Stairway to Heaven! Arguably THE most iconic rock song ever! If they had even a tenth of a percent of the royalties, they'd be millionaires easily. This whole thing is completely frivolous and bullshit. Spirit does not own a descending arpeggio, nor does anyone else, because it's been used in music for hundreds of years. Plus, only the first four or five notes on the guitar sound at all similar. If this were over a song like Dazed and Confused, I'd at least understand to a certain degree. This is just greediness, plain and simple as that.

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This is total and utter bullshit!!!

The court shouldn't allow any appeals.

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Oh, brother! Here we go again! :slapface: 

I truly cannot believe that, that punk Skidmore was actually allowed to file an appeal! Sheesh! Just when I thought that it was all done and dusted...

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Not only should the appeal be denied, but Robert, Jimmy, and Jones attorney should counter with a vexatious litigant claim of their own. I am sure that would stop this bullshit dead in its tracks...permanently.

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The Court system doesn't care about justice, they only care about the money they make off these cases.

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13 hours ago, IpMan said:

Not only should the appeal be denied, but Robert, Jimmy, and Jones attorney should counter with a vexatious litigant claim of their own. I am sure that would stop this bullshit dead in its tracks...permanently.

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It is a load of rubbish. But i see some, Shall we say, Agencies, Are all over it. Like i say, A complete waste of time. After money. End of. Wish it would just f.o.

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