BlyZeppelinaren Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 ^^^^ completely agree... i think the bits and peaces stuff makes the LZ live catalog a bit awkward... kinda like BBC sessions even though i like a lot of the tracks its a bit all over the place... i know for Knebworth and EC some of the performances were deemed subpar but a full uninterupted show warts and all just fits with the attitude the swagger the prowess of Led Zeppelin... holding back just seems contradictory and detrimental... Well we all know how Jimmy is, perfectionist to the nth degree, I think Zep shows should be enjoyed in full, there's a reason it was "A night with Led Zeppelin" instead of just Zeppelin in concert, I want the whole thing, the atmosphere means more to me than not hearing a bum note or two, I want it, warts and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyLedZeppelin Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Love both the 7/24 and 8/4 performances with an edge to the Copenhagen show. Amazing setllist. Love the TSRTS into Celebration Day opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Love the TSRTS into Celebration Day opening. +1 Much better than going into Sick Again, which I thought sounded amazingly refreshing later in the set as a stand alone number! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Santos Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The Copenhagen shows are better overrall (especially the 7/24 one), but Plant sounds stronger at Knebby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raytuned Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yes "king of 77" I like your post,,,,I came across a bootleg (vinyl no less) titled " melancholy danish page boys get it on" the Copenhagen warm up gigs, Sad to say I let it slip away and don't have it ,supposedly these gigs were not rehearsed and the band was coming off a long hiatus playing wise.it kills me more that it was a double vinyl lp. That's the bad news .now the good news. In 1980 I came across the first vinyl bootleg for knebworth, check it out this is so cool. You could here the crickets chirping and all the sound that makes for alive version it was raw and live as could when the DVD versions came out ,thanks to tech...they cleaned it up (tape) and you don't here any of the audience chirps ,crickets nor the natural hums of the amps.now you get a clean tape w clapping.in between songs.in my opinoin it took something from it rather then make it sound better but that's technology for ya!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raytuned Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hello ttomtomh, bonzos clickety clack ring ting sound on the drums might have been caused by an unusual cool breeze that night,we know the drums were in tune up until that point. Temps effect the sound. Look at the DVD knebworth audience they had on hats and light sweaters. And it was summertime right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Hello ttomtomh, bonzos clickety clack ring ting sound on the drums might have been caused by an unusual cool breeze that night,we know the drums were in tune up until that point. Temps effect the sound. Look at the DVD knebworth audience they had on hats and light sweaters. And it was summertime right? That's the English countryside for ya, kinda like San Francisco in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowfoot Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Will always prefer knebworth. An experience, memories and really good audience tapes but then I'm biased. As for the weather ... On the 11th Robert says it didn't rain. Thankfully it didn't during the day but it hammered down sometime after we got into the site in the early hours of the morning. Got there in the dark, crawled out of my sleeping bag in the morning to see 100,000+ people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Will always prefer knebworth. An experience, memories and really good audience tapes but then I'm biased. As for the weather ... On the 11th Robert says it didn't rain. Thankfully it didn't during the day but it hammered down sometime after we got into the site in the early hours of the morning. Got there in the dark, crawled out of my sleeping bag in the morning to see 100,000+ people. Ever heard the Copenhagen audience tapes? Maybe the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Best ever? C'mon. I do enjoy the warm up shows, but Knebworth 8/4 has such a great set list, performance, vibe, and energy. Love the run of songs: Kashmir, TUF, SA, ALS, ITE. It's what the '77 shows were missing in the 2nd half - energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Best ever? C'mon. I do enjoy the warm up shows, but Knebworth 8/4 has such a great set list, performance, vibe, and energy. Love the run of songs: Kashmir, TUF, SA, ALS, ITE. It's what the '77 shows were missing in the 2nd half - energy. I'm talking about the sound quality, that's why I highlighted really good audience tapes. Copenhagen has all those songs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Oh yeah, Copenhagen indeed. I have both shows plus both Knebworth shows and I will take Copenhagen any day. However, Aug 4th was damn good too, I just prefer the feel and vibe of the Copenhagen shows, plus, it has one of the best Ten Years Gone done live. I have always believed Jimmy performed better in general in smaller venues, he is, or was a shy guy and I believe the stadium gigs really stressed him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathington Willoughby Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Oh yeah, Copenhagen indeed. I have both shows plus both Knebworth shows and I will take Copenhagen any day. However, Aug 4th was damn good too, I just prefer the feel and vibe of the Copenhagen shows, plus, it has one of the best Ten Years Gone done live. I have always believed Jimmy performed better in general in smaller venues, he is, or was a shy guy and I believe the stadium gigs really stressed him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I just want to say that on the 7/24 gig the band, Page in particular has his mitts greased straightaway and the band continues on with A ferocious attack. Even the 75' gigs usually had a few dips , and toss out 77', this show has almost perfect pacing, something IMO Zep always had some trouble with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Dounim Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I have always believed Jimmy performed better in general in smaller venues, he is, or was a shy guy and I believe the stadium gigs really stressed him out. I dunno, I think smaller venues is more Robert's thing. After all look at the venues they played in 1980 (which Robert said smaller venues was a condition of agreeing to the European and pending American tour), and it's part of the reason why he walked out on Page & Plant in 98. Jimmy may have played better in smaller venues, but he definitely wants bigger audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 this show has almost perfect pacing, something IMO Zep always had some trouble with. I'd be inclined to say the 1979 shows were the most perfectly paced shows Zeppelin ever put on. Pretty easy listens as far as sustaining the interest goes- no epic drum solos, Noise solos or "Dazed And Confused" makes a big difference. Bad pacing is something that would again afflict the band in 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Look at the DVD knebworth audience they had on hats and light sweaters. And it was summertime right? The 4th was a beautiful warm summers day. Hey this is England in the summer but it never got chilly enough for hats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles J. White Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 The 4th was a beautiful warm summers day. Hey this is England in the summer but it never got chilly enough for hats You are so lucky to have been at that Knebworth gig, it went down in the history books as a great musical moment - congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Right place at the right time I suppose. I remember the show being announced on The Old Grey Whistle Test ( a great BBC music show). My phone rung straight away by mates screaming WE MUST GET TICKETS !! It was a great day. One I will remember forever. Here are some pictures I took: Note how close I got to the stage in the 1st pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowfoot Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm talking about the sound quality, that's why I highlighted really good audience tapes. Copenhagen has all those songs too. take your point but the ones i got are really good. I wasn't at Copenhagen so am probably not the most objective reviewer of knebworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowfoot Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Right place at the right time I suppose. I remember the show being announced on The Old Grey Whistle Test ( a great BBC music show). My phone rung straight away by mates screaming WE MUST GET TICKETS !! It was a great day. One I will remember forever. Here are some pictures I took: Note how close I got to the stage in the 1st pic scan0005.jpg scan0005.jpg scan0007.jpglove the pics, I don't think I'd have seen the stage that good with a telescope from where I was. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 love the pics, I don't think I'd have seen the stage that good with a telescope from where I was. :-) Should have muscled down man. The last pic is where we started from. The 1st pic is where we settled in to watch Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zola Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Those pictures from Knebworth bring back many happy memories of the day. Amazingly they are really close to where we were sitting. Is that me in the Zeppelin t-shirt I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kashmir75 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 have tried goggle earth where specifically was the concert looks like a big place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowfoot Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Should have muscled down man. The last pic is where we started from. The 1st pic is where we settled in to watch Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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