Eman the Epic Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 ^ I legit hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Nope, I hate them too as IMO they are Jimmy's "Yoko Moment" as they are more avant garde sound solos than guitar solo until he picks up the damn bow. I understand what he was trying to do but I believe the heroin usage prevented him to focus which resulted in one long sonic mess. I also feel the same about Bonham's Over the Top solo as well. Unless you have naked honeys juggling fire at the same time, even the best drum solo gets real boring, real fast after 10 min max...and that's pushing it at that. Now that I think of it, if Cirque du Soleil had been around in 77', Zep could have pre-dated Celine Dion's Vegas act by 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stairway is NOT stolen Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Some were better than others, but overall they could have just done the bow solo, which leads perfectly into Achilles Last Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpete Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I generally skip past the drum and the sonic mishmash guitar solos. Each is the worst part of 70s classic rock live concert excess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgeholder Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 You had to be there. And be stoned. And say "far out" a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8rat Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I dont hate them but I dont really listen to the later, super long stuff. I like the earlier stuff like dazed and confused and whole lotta love. 53 minutes ago, badgeholder said: You had to be there. And be stoned. And say "far out" a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 They haven't aged well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef free Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 On 6/4/2016 at 11:29 AM, badgeholder said: You had to be there. And be stoned. And say "far out" a lot 52 minutes ago, SteveAJones said: They haven't aged well at all. Agreed! Too long, repetitive and uninspired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Dounim Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Im gonna regret saying anything but I love them. One of the coolest things about the 77 tour if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Avenger Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I quite like the shorter ones from April, when Jimmy was more focussed generally. But yes, you probably had to be there to get the full audio/visual impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 If it was more along the lines of the bowed guitar intro Jimmy did for "In The Evening" at the 1979 Knebworth shows, it'd be much better. Doing the drum solo and then Jimmy's Noise Solo back to back as they did most nights...what the fuck were they thinking? Any momentum the band had built over the previous two hours of the concert died right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I pretty much agree, but I think we should all be thinking more, how those solos feel about our opinions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the body electric Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 20 hours ago, Sue Dounim said: Im gonna regret saying anything but I love them. One of the coolest things about the 77 tour if you ask me When I first got Destroyer on vinyl sometime around 1980 when I was in high school, I struggled with the whole thing until I got to the Theremin solo. It blew my little psychedelic mind away. I love the Theremin solos of the 1977 tour. They were ahead of their time. I don't feel the same way about the noodling before or the bow after. The Theremin solo of 6/25 is my current favorite. There is just something otherworldly about the echoes he gets. I love it to no end. The thought of those sounds bouncing around an arena are just breathtaking to me. I want to create a compilation of them someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywalnutz Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Most of the noise solo's are awful but as was mentioned the earlier ones are more tolerable. Having said that Moby Dick and Over the Top do not always get skipped it depends on how long they run. Anything over 20 minutes and i start to lose interest . However, naked beauties juggling fire would take a while to tire of. Even some of the real long anti-climatic Dazed and Confused get skipped over. 3/27/75 immediately comes to mind. But the earlier 70's 18-20 minute Dazed and Confused are among my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Visually, they were stunning. Sonically, some were better and more focused than others. "Star Wars" had just been released so the theramin part sounded like a lightsaber duel. But the important reasons for the drum and guitar solos were these: 1. It gave Robert time to rest his injured leg and foot...and his voice. 2. It gave us in the audience time to take a piss and refuel at the snack bar without missing the finale of "Achilles Last Stand" and "Stairway to Heaven". The solos on the 1977 tour usually came at just over two hours into the show. I don't know about you, but I have never known a girl who can go more than two hours without pissing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 If it was just some nerker doodling about, yeah, they'd be tedious. But this is Jimmy Page. Free pass from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juxtiphi Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On 6/6/2016 at 2:57 AM, Sue Dounim said: Im gonna regret saying anything but I love them. One of the coolest things about the 77 tour if you ask me +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 19 hours ago, Strider said: Visually, they were stunning. Sonically, some were better and more focused than others. "Star Wars" had just been released so the theramin part sounded like a lightsaber duel. But the important reasons for the drum and guitar solos were these: 1. It gave Robert time to rest his injured leg and foot...and his voice. 2. It gave us in the audience time to take a piss and refuel at the snack bar without missing the finale of "Achilles Last Stand" and "Stairway to Heaven". The solos on the 1977 tour usually came at just over two hours into the show. I don't know about you, but I have never known a girl who can go more than two hours without pissing. True, but what lady needs 30 minutes to piss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 33 minutes ago, IpMan said: True, but what lady needs 30 minutes to piss? You have obviously never been to a concert at the Forum. The lines are ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Strider said: You have obviously never been to a concert at the Forum. The lines are ridiculous. True, but why don't the ladies just use the mens room? I have been to several concerts in the 80's when the women waiting in those long lines just said "fuck it" and went into the mens room. No one seemed to care and even applauded the ladies for their assertiveness. Whoops, think I just veered WAY off topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Quota Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I can't remember if it's only in the LTTE show 6/21/77, but in the solo for that show around the 8 minute mark, you can see a huge influence on the attached Eddie Van Halen song "Cathedral". So much so, I first thought that was what the bootleg title was ribbing EVH about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, IpMan said: True, but why don't the ladies just use the mens room? I have been to several concerts in the 80's when the women waiting in those long lines just said "fuck it" and went into the mens room. No one seemed to care and even applauded the ladies for their assertiveness. Whoops, think I just veered WAY off topic... You'd have to be a brave woman to go into the men's room at the Forum. It could get pretty gross...piss and vomit everywhere. Frankly, when I said the lines were ridiculous I wasn't just referring to the ladies room. All of the lines were a hassle...men's room, snacks and beer, merch table. There's 18,000 people...there are going to be lines wherever you look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywalnutz Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I hope it's not a harbinger of things to come but a month ago at a Derek Trucks show at NJ PAC the had a 30 minute intermission right smack after a scintillating Guitar Solo. First time I ever saw that happen. Talk about breaking momentum. It ruined the show for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowfoot Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Depends on how long they go on for and how he played it. personally I think the knebworth ones were perfect not too long and I have always loved the bow section. suppose there is a massive difference between seeing and experiencing it and listening to it cold on a recording. Although I take the point that on the 1977 tour it was probably factored in as part of giving Robert a rest. moby dick/over the top probably splits opinions in a similar way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyGirl Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Nope I'm NOT a fan of listening to it at all, but let's keep that our little secret . I'm sure live like Strider pointed out, it was a chance for the crowd to get a bathroom break, whatever, and for band members to take a breather depending on who was soloing Jimmy, Bonzo etc but listening to it after the fact in your home nah I'll pass. I like 1977 but an edit button was needed - either that or somebody should have forgot to pack Jimmy's bow and theremin for some of the 1977 tour. And I say this as somebody who thinks the bow / theremin for some shows was a pretty cool section. The only thing about getting too trigger happy with the edit button is I love A L S, so I'm royally pissed if I cut some out because I'm trying to chop out some of Jimbo's noise solo. I should also say seeing compared to only listening could greatly change my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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