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New Bath '70 Video?

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RAH is fine, Bath nope.  HTTWW project approached both and Bath was a no go.

I have heard over the years "no evidence" and that is simply not the case. And as a caution just because a recording is circulated as a "soundboard" does not mean it is a sb or "the" soundboard.  A great many recordings being circulated with the sb label is not.

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28 minutes ago, Dallas Knebs said:

RAH is fine, Bath nope.  HTTWW project approached both and Bath was a no go.

I have heard over the years "no evidence" and that is simply not the case. And as a caution just because a recording is circulated as a "soundboard" does not mean it is a sb or "the" soundboard.  A great many recordings being circulated with the sb label is not.

Have you seen or heard of concrete evidence that Bath was multitracked or even recorded as a soundboard recording?  I haven't.  

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3 minutes ago, Dallas Knebs said:

yes

Can you show us?   Like a mobile truck actually set up and recording Zeppelin?  

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Actually, theres a good thread over at RO public section about this, which makes the case that any pre-1971 with extra microphones on stage was likely recorded. For example, LA '70 Blueberry Hill show didn't have microphones on Page's or JPJ's amps (I know right? How the hell did that work?), Bath 1970 did have extra mics on stage. Go check it out, it makes a good argument. I've always looked to photo evidence to wonder and slobber over whether theres unheard soundboards (or course there are), 9/28/71 and 9/29/71 are the best examples. I mean, you look at those pics and you just KNOW they're recording.

Then again, you can look at Woodstock '69 festival and don't see many extra mics, but that was in fact multi tracked by Eddie Kramer, so... Idk. ;)

Gave Bath '70 audience recording another listen recently, and IMO its really a lot looser than the Royal Albert Hall performance. First song is a lil rough, Roberts trying to improv but doesn't do so well. The band tightens up as the show goes on, but I could see how Jimmy would overlook it. SIBLY, usually a song they played flawlessly, is kinda early-Jimmy-slop ridden.

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^ that thread also mentions the November 1969 Winterland shows as possible soundboard recordings, which IMO (if they sound as good as 4/27/69) would make an excellent official release.

HOLY GRAIL MATERIAL, 11/6 and 11/7/1969

Can you imagine? Could only be bested by a 9/19/70 soundboard(s)

Also I think they did a soundcheck and rehearsal for Royal Albert Hall, 1970, if i remember correctly. Didn't at Bath.

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Sure bands were recording and filming at Bath but zero facts and evidence of a Zeppelin recording.

Im very much a historian when I approach things and for some things like a professional Bath Zeppelin recording there just isnt evidence posted on any forum this proves it.  I'm saying this all ligh hearted and not arguing.  Just saying real fact of evidence via pictures or reels or sound samples, etc.still have never been shown. 

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38 minutes ago, Sticks of Fire said:

Sure bands were recording and filming at Bath but zero facts and evidence of a Zeppelin recording.

Im very much a historian when I approach things and for some things like a professional Bath Zeppelin recording there just isnt evidence posted on any forum this proves it.  I'm saying this all ligh hearted and not arguing.  Just saying real fact of evidence via pictures or reels or sound samples, etc.still have never been shown. 

Sure, we can look at things in terms of probability, but with Zeppelin you always have to factor in the distinct chance of a curveball.

For instance, nobody predicted the Pod, Pod track from Presence, and I'm sure there are private collectors out there hoarding gems, wallowing in private showings of footage we have never seen.

As a long time Zeppelin fan I've learnt to never say, never—the band is a capricious beast.

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And in my few years of collecting I doubted there was a 9/29/71 soundboard, then I realized I was listening to it all along, then next thing I know 9/28 Black Dog comes out in perfect quality.

Damn right bet a few reading this have heard the Bath sbd/multi 

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31 minutes ago, Boleskinner said:

distinct chance of a curveball.

For instance, nobody predicted the Pod, Pod track from Presence, and I'm sure there are private collectors out there hoarding gems, wallowing in private showings of footage we have never seen.

As a long time Zeppelin fan I've learnt to never say, never—the band is a capricious beast.

truth

I know of 3 hoarders who from time to time will place something at auction and at the last moment withdraw the item(s).  Personal experience with all 3, one in West Palm, one in LaJolla, one in Montreal.  Wonderful people, just irrational when it comes to letting go its almost as if they are betraying some high call to conserve the moment.  Really odd.

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40 minutes ago, Boleskinner said:

Sure, we can look at things in terms of probability, but with Zeppelin you always have to factor in the distinct chance of a curveball.

For instance, nobody predicted the Pod, Pod track from Presence, and I'm sure there are private collectors out there hoarding gems, wallowing in private showings of footage we have never seen.

As a long time Zeppelin fan I've learnt to never say, never—the band is a capricious beast.

Absolutely agree.  St Tristan's Sword was another total surprise, at least to me.  Capricious beast indeed. 

 

private hoarders...very strange indeed. Eyes Wide Shut. 

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8 hours ago, Dallas Knebs said:

truth

I know of 3 hoarders who from time to time will place something at auction and at the last moment withdraw the item(s).  Personal experience with all 3, one in West Palm, one in LaJolla, one in Montreal.  Wonderful people, just irrational when it comes to letting go its almost as if they are betraying some high call to conserve the moment.  Really odd.

 This proves or provides evidence of a Bath multitrack?  How so?

Everyone knows someone with something.  We've all heard this  for twenty to thirty years about hoarders and 99.99% is never true.  

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8 hours ago, Dirty Work said:

And in my few years of collecting I doubted there was a 9/29/71 soundboard, then I realized I was listening to it all along, then next thing I know 9/28 Black Dog comes out in perfect quality.

Damn right bet a few reading this have heard the Bath sbd/multi 

No surprises here at all.   We all knew the Osaka Japan shows were recorded and we have been listening to a rough mix down of the 9/29 professional recording since the 1980s.  

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That thread that blackmikito posted is great.  He's a great collector and researcher.  

That thread is the type of thread that brings up many good ways to look for evidence of possible live recordings done by the band. 

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