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[wanna be drummer]

I have no idea whether or not we have one of these threads, but if we do, it died. So I'm starting a new one.

In any case, does anyone else miss the good old days when fighting was prevalent and the word enforcer had a meaning? I know I do. Speaking of enforcers, who else misses the Bruise Brothers?

Obviously, I'm a huge Red Wings fan and I have to say, this is some of their best hockey ever! BUt I still miss the tough guys like Joey Kocur, Darren McCarty, and Bob Probert.

Well that's just me devoting some space to the old days. Anywho, who else loves hockey?

[Rock Action]

GO SHARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Babs]

The instigater rule has ruined the fighting.The little guy can hack away at will and not be afraid.
I miss the old day's of hockey. I think Probert was the greatest heavyweight of all time. I live in Vancouver and the Canucks are horrible this year.

[Mr. Da-Lo]

Awesome news! McCarty has been contracted with the GR Griffins...The AHL affiliate of ....THE DETROIT REDWINGS! He is on his way back!!!

[bigstickbonzo]

There will always be one player in my book..


# 16 in Hockey Town..


Vlad "The Impaler"

[Electrophile]

I have no idea whether or not we have one of these threads, but if we do, it died. So I'm starting a new one.

In any case, does anyone else miss the good old days when fighting was prevalent and the word enforcer had a meaning? I know I do. Speaking of enforcers, who else misses the Bruise Brothers?

Obviously, I'm a huge Red Wings fan and I have to say, this is some of their best hockey ever! BUt I still miss the tough guys like Joey Kocur, Darren McCarty, and Bob Probert.

Well that's just me devoting some space to the old days. Anywho, who else loves hockey?

Sweet. We're killing the league. Let's hope we go all the way this year.

[wanna be drummer]

There will always be one player in my book..


# 16 in Hockey Town..


Vlad "The Impaler"

My god he was such a good hockey player. Tough as nails too http://youtube.com/watch?v=cO1uhorF5LA

I still can't believe what happened to him. His recovery is coming along, but it was a long road to get to. I give Brett Hull a lot of credit for not taking #16 like he always had and taking #17 as 16 is unofficially reitred in the Red Wings' book

[spats]

All of our sports teams in Toronto suck. The Maple Leafs are an embarassment to hockey. They are lucky that fans in toronto follow them blindly or else the team would have folded by now.

[Electrophile]

There's no way the Maple Leafs will fold. They are one of the Original 6 teams. The Red Wings went through some real shitty years in the 70s and 80s, but they're still kicking.

[wanna be drummer]

Just because I'm in a hockey mood, I looked up some lists for the 100 greatest Hockey Players of All Time

Well I came across this one

1- Wayne Gretzky
2- Bobby Orr
3- Gordie Howe
4- Mario Lemieux
5- Maurice Richard
6- Doug Harney
7- Jean Béliveau
8- Bobby Hull
9- Terry Sawchuk
10- Eddie Shore
11- Guy Lafleur
12- Mark Messier
13- Jacques Plante
14- Raymond Bourque
15- Howie Morenz
16- Glenn Hall
17- Stan Mikita
18- Phil Esposito
19- Denis Potvin
20- Mike Bossy
21- Ted Lindsay
22- Red Kelly
23- Bobby Clarke
24- Larry Robinson
25- Ken Dryden
26- Frank Mahovlich
27- Milt Schmidt
28- Paul Coffey
29- Henri Richard
30- Bryan Trottier
31- Dickie Moore
32- Newsy Lalonde
33- Syl Apps Sr.
34- Bill Durnan
35- Patrick Roy
36- Charlie Conacher
37- Jaromir Jagr
38- Marcel Dionne
39- Joe Malone
40- Chris Chelios
41- Dit Clapper
42- Bernard Geoffrion
43- Tim Horton
44- Bill Cook
45- Johnny Bucyk
46- George Hainsworth
47- Gilbert Perreault
48- Max Bentley
49- Brad Park
50- Jari Kurri
51- Nels Stewart
52- King Clancy
53- Bill Cowley
54- Eric Lindros
55- Busher Jackson
56- Peter Stastny
57- Ted Kennedy
58- Andy Bathgate
59- Pierre Pilote
60- Turk Broda
61- Frank Boucher
62- Cy Dennedy
63- Bernard Parent
64- Brett Hull
65- Aurel Joliat
66- Toe Blake
67- Frank Brismek
68- Elmer Lach
69- Dave Keon
70- Grant Fuhr
71- Brian Leetch
72- Earl Seibert
73- Doug Bentley
74- Borje Salming
75- George Vezina
76- Chuck Gardiner
77- Clint Benedict
78- Steve Yzerman
79- Tony Esposito
80- Billy Smith
81- Serge Savard
82- Alex Delvecchio
83- Cecil Dye
84- Lorne Chabot
85- Sid Abel
86- Bob Gainey
87- Johnny Bower
88- Sprague Cleghorn
89- Mark Gartner
90- Norm Ullman
91- Sweeney Schriner
92- Joe Primeau
93- Darryl Sittler
94- Joe Sakic
95- Dominik Hasek
96- Walter Pratt
97- Jack Stewart
98- Yvan Cournoyer
99- Bill Gadsby
100- Frank Nighbor


Now really...Eric Lindros is better than Steve Yzerman? And whats with Nick Lindstrom and Brendan Shanahan not even being on the list?

Also curiously absent: Luc Robataille, Ron Francis, Doug Gilmour, Peter Forseberge, and Pavel Bure among others


This is why I dislike lists...they normally suck

[Electrophile]

Steve Yzerman is top 10, maybe top 5.

[wanna be drummer]

There's no way the Maple Leafs will fold. They are one of the Original 6 teams. The Red Wings went through some real shitty years in the 70s and 80s, but they're still kicking.

Also known as the Dead Wings era...not one of our glorious moments


The Captain changed all that

[spats]

There's no way the Maple Leafs will fold. They are one of the Original 6 teams. The Red Wings went through some real shitty years in the 70s and 80s, but they're still kicking.

If the fans would stop going they would. Do you realize how long the leafs have sucked? They haven't won the cup since 1967!!!!! They had two years in the early 90's where they came close to the finals. And they had a great period in the late 70's with Darryl Sittler, Lanny Mcdonald, Borje Salming and a few other but that's it since 1967.

[the Octagon]

The Blackhawks have been in the shitter for years, too. Luckily, they're showing signs of life with Bill Wirtz being dead, and his son now the chairman. John McDonough is a PR mastermind, and I like Denis Savard as the coach. They've got some good young talent they can build around, hopefully.

Edited by the Octagon, 07 February 2008 - 04:52 PM.

[Charles_Obscure]

Go Habs Go!!

We're playing against TO tonight, if it's a win, we're first in the division!!


and btw, Montreal's the #1 Hockey Town, not Detroit, even though you got a killer team for a few years now!

Put that in your hash pipe and smoke it, Detroit!

Edited by Charles_Obscure, 07 February 2008 - 04:53 PM.

[zosodude13]

Go Sabres!!!

Last year... game 5 vs the rangers... one of the best games in NHL playoff history

Sabres vs. Rangers Game 5

gotta love Rick Jennerette's reactions!!! still gives me goosebumps whenever I watch it

Still mad we let Drury and Briere go... but i think we will be in the playoffs at like 7 or 8 seed

Edited by zosodude13, 07 February 2008 - 08:52 PM.

[bigstickbonzo]

Old Time Hockey..


Eddie Shore.

[zepyep]

Hi all,

I have no idea whether or not we have one of these threads, but if we do, it died. So I'm starting a new one.

In any case, does anyone else miss the good old days when fighting was prevalent and the word enforcer had a meaning? I know I do. Speaking of enforcers, who else misses the Bruise Brothers?

Obviously, I'm a huge Red Wings fan and I have to say, this is some of their best hockey ever! BUt I still miss the tough guys like Joey Kocur, Darren McCarty, and Bob Probert.

Well that's just me devoting some space to the old days. Anywho, who else loves hockey?

Yeah since 1968,played street hockey eveyday.What a great sport.Thanks Canada!
But drummer,I have to say IMVHO,fighting has ruined the sport.

I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out!

Before the 1980 Olympics there were every few US players in the NHL,when what happened US and others from around the world got into the sport and the thing exploded.
In the Olympics,you throw knuckles you get thrown out.So you got to play and that takes skill.How many fistacuffs did the 'Great One' get into?Not many I'll wager!Bobby Ore?What is he remember for?Pounding someones head in?Eh?
The NHL today? It's holding on by the skin of their teeth. That great snow game in Buffalo,highest rated game in a decade,........let them play.
IF you want to see a fight,watch MMA,........boxing,or go to this dive I know,...

KB (with all due respect)

[wanna be drummer]

Go Habs Go!!

We're playing against TO tonight, if it's a win, we're first in the division!!


and btw, Montreal's the #1 Hockey Town, not Detroit, even though you got a killer team for a few years now!

Put that in your hash pipe and smoke it, Detroit!

And yet we're nationally called Hockeytown, not Toronto

Just remember who's been the better team for...well around 2 decades now

Shall we compare notable players? We win in that category as well with Mr. Hockey leading the way

Put that in your pipe and smoke it

[wanna be drummer]

Hi all,



Yeah since 1968,played street hockey eveyday.What a great sport.Thanks Canada!
But drummer,I have to say IMVHO,fighting has ruined the sport.

Before the 1980 Olympics there were every few US players in the NHL,when what happened US and others from around the world got into the sport and the thing exploded.
In the Olympics,you throw knuckles you get thrown out.So you got to play and that takes skill.How many fistacuffs did the 'Great One' get into?Not many I'll wager!Bobby Ore?What is he remember for?Pounding someones head in?Eh?
The NHL today? It's holding on by the skin of their teeth. That great snow game in Buffalo,highest rated game in a decade,........let them play.
IF you want to see a fight,watch MMA,........boxing,or go to this dive I know,...

KB (with all due respect)

With all due respect it's Orr, not Ore


Secondly, I disagree. Hockey is known for its rough-tough gameplay. Simply having skill and technique is great, but enforcers can change a game and grind out the opponent. They were and intricate part of teams. Look at the Red Wings' famous Grind Line: Kris Draper, Kirk Maltby, and Darren McCarty (replaced Joey kocur). None of those three guys are superstars by any means. McCarty is known for his fists and a hat trick he had in the playoffs...thats about it. Maltby hasn't ever scored 20 goals in a season and is more known for his solid checking ability. Drapes is simply fast. This subpar line was able to wear down the "Legion of Doom" consisting of three very talented players: John LeClair, Eric Lindros, and Mike Renberg. McCartys aggresiveness and Maltbys checks were perfect compliments to Drapers speed and they wore Lindros and Co. down and made them much less effective.

Now, I'm not saying enforcers were the determining factor in games, skill has always been important, but to say it ruined the sport is IMHO a bit strong. Fighting and toughness have always been a part of the game. Even back in Gordie Howe's day. Let's face it, if checks all of a sudden weren't allowed, who would watch it? If the NHL wants a comeback, it needs to start encourgaing enforcers again. They've said that their changes brought in more attendance...but thats probably an outright lie seeing as how the Red Wings haven't had a sold out game this whole year...and thats after selling out every game for the last 4 or 5 years.

Fighting won't ruin the sport. It could end up saving it


edited because I called LeClair McClair for some reason

Edited by wanna be drummer, 07 February 2008 - 10:27 PM.