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[ArmsofAtlas]

No real argument could be made that any of the musicans in the band were among the most technically skilled in their craft. Waters could barely play bass, and there are no odd time signature drum freakouts. Gilmour was a fine guitarist, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix or Page, barring personal preference. Rick Wright was by far and away the most technically skilled musician in the band.

Pink Floyd did more with their small amount musical expertise than any band ever, but made some of the most complex sounding mainstream music, ever.

Anybody that says they are a one trick pony or that DSOTM or WYWH is their best needs to listen to a bit more of their catalog. Give me Meddle and Animals over either of those anyday, with Obscured by Clouds tossed right in there with them.

[Humbucker]

Pink Floyd did more with their small amount musical expertise than any band ever, but made some of the most complex sounding mainstream music, ever.

I agree. It was the structure of the music that set them apart: where to leave the spaces. The fact that three of the members were at one time training to become architects may well have stood them in good stead as to how to construct a piece without overblowing it, only using what was necessary to make the music effective.

RB

Edited by Humbucker, 26 November 2008 - 01:40 AM.

[JTM]

No real argument could be made that any of the musicans in the band were among the most technically skilled in their craft. Waters could barely play bass, and there are no odd time signature drum freakouts. Gilmour was a fine guitarist, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix or Page, barring personal preference. Rick Wright was by far and away the most technically skilled musician in the band.

Pink Floyd did more with their small amount musical expertise than any band ever, but made some of the most complex sounding mainstream music, ever.

Anybody that says they are a one trick pony or that DSOTM or WYWH is their best needs to listen to a bit more of their catalog. Give me Meddle and Animals over either of those anyday, with Obscured by Clouds tossed right in there with them.

Absolutely spot on.

[~tangerine~]

I could never consider Pink Floyd overrated because i found them at the same time i found Led Zeppelin, and that was an amazing time in my life. I disagree that David Gilmour is not an excellent guitarist to anyone who wants to call him mediocre in any way. He is more technical than Page or Hendrix, but he is absolutely great and my favorite next to Jimmy (Page that is!)

As for the opening that Pink Floyd have only three good albums, well that is just your opinion. If that was a fact, they would have probably faded away by now. I agree that Animals and Meddle are great albums, but i also love Dark Side of the Moon (in no way "average") and as previously mentioned, definitely "timeless". I also love Wish You Were Here. I don't love all the songs from their other albums, but i do love all the songs from these "four" and they are so good that it makes Pink Floyd worthy of their long standing following. The Wall was never one of my favs...but i appreciate it for it's artistry.

and David Gilmour was a fantastic model before he became a famous musician

[Joao]

No real argument could be made that any of the musicans in the band were among the most technically skilled in their craft. Waters could barely play bass, and there are no odd time signature drum freakouts. Gilmour was a fine guitarist, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix or Page, barring personal preference. Rick Wright was by far and away the most technically skilled musician in the band.

Pink Floyd did more with their small amount musical expertise than any band ever, but made some of the most complex sounding mainstream music, ever.

Anybody that says they are a one trick pony or that DSOTM or WYWH is their best needs to listen to a bit more of their catalog. Give me Meddle and Animals over either of those anyday, with Obscured by Clouds tossed right in there with them.

Well I wouldn't exactly say that Waters could barely play bass... and gilmour although not being a guitar virtuoso is a very good guitar play imo.



Me and my brother we grew up on Pink Floyd from the albums that our father had. WYWH is major influence on me. I know they are pretty well known here in Europe but I always thought that it wasn't the same in America so the idea i had was that they were somewhat underrated... I don't know guess I was wrong, maybe?

Edited by Joao, 27 November 2008 - 09:08 AM.

[caroselambra~]

and David Gilmour was a fantastic model before he became a famous musician

...and that has what to do with anything?

[Humbucker]

Well I wouldn't exactly say that Waters could barely play bass... and gilmour although not being a guitar virtuoso is a very good guitar play imo.

True. Waters was a capable bass player. I saw The Floyd in their hey-day (when live gigs consisted of just the four of them), and he played it all with no porblems. You don't have to be a virtuoso guitar player to get your ideas across; the musicians played what was right for the song, not using it as a vehicle for showing off prodigious technique every night.

RB

[~tangerine~]

...and that has what to do with anything?

it's just a bit of trivia that i find interesting about Mr. Gilmour

[caroselambra~]

it's just a bit of trivia that i find interesting about Mr. Gilmour

me too - i used to adore him in the seventies

[~tangerine~]

me too - i used to adore him in the seventies

He was sexy, and has such pretty blue eyes...



off topic, lol.

[Gegenschein]

He was sexy, and has such pretty blue eyes...



off topic, lol.

lol...NOT!

[Melanie_72]

I really like Pink Floyd! They have a very distinct sound. Everytime I hear them on the radio, I most certainly have to turn it up.

[ArmsofAtlas]

Athough, I did say Waters could barely play bass, it wasn't meant to disparage his ability at the instrument. I meant it in a more "Ringo could barely play drums" sense. What he played or wrote for the song was always perfect, but he rarely, if ever, had a real over the top bass part, even thought there are several songs that are bass driven.

I disagree with the statement that Gilmour is as technical as Page and Hendrix. He is one of the best, no doubt, but his technique just doesn't cover that much range, imo. He is the best, hands down, when it comes to crafting a delicious guitar tone, it just seems that alot of his solos are treading the same ground over and over. Credit has to be given for knowing what to play and when to play it and I feel that is where Gilmour shines.

[Cletus]

I'd love it if the Delicate Sound Of Thunder Video(from the 88 tour) would get released on DVD. Don't know if it will ever happen, though.

[caroselambra~]

Athough, I did say Waters could barely play bass, it wasn't meant to disparage his ability at the instrument. I meant it in a more "Ringo could barely play drums" sense. What he played or wrote for the song was always perfect, but he rarely, if ever, had a real over the top bass part, even thought there are several songs that are bass driven.

I disagree with the statement that Gilmour is as technical as Page and Hendrix. He is one of the best, no doubt, but his technique just doesn't cover that much range, imo. He is the best, hands down, when it comes to crafting a delicious guitar tone, it just seems that alot of his solos are treading the same ground over and over. Credit has to be given for knowing what to play and when to play it and I feel that is where Gilmour shines.

wow - that was indeed a...

[caroselambra~]

yes gotta love the guy

[danelectro59]

No real argument could be made that any of the musicans in the band were among the most technically skilled in their craft. Waters could barely play bass, and there are no odd time signature drum freakouts. Gilmour was a fine guitarist, but he isn't in the same league as Hendrix or Page, barring personal preference. Rick Wright was by far and away the most technically skilled musician in the band.

Pink Floyd did more with their small amount musical expertise than any band ever, but made some of the most complex sounding mainstream music, ever.

Anybody that says they are a one trick pony or that DSOTM or WYWH is their best needs to listen to a bit more of their catalog. Give me Meddle and Animals over either of those anyday, with Obscured by Clouds tossed right in there with them.

I can't agree with the first paragraph. Granted, Roger Waters was no Jack Bruce, but then he always was a believer of less is more. If you've listened to interviews with him, he states that clearly. He was an experimenter, always searching for new sounds and avenues to take those sounds. People have different opinions on what is considered good, great or genius. I won't put Roger, or Syd in the latter, but I think both were very instrumental in the development of art rock.
Totally agree with the second paragraph. I saw PF twice and both times, I don't think any of the group members moved more than two feet from the spot they were standing. So you didn't go to their concert to work up a sweat, but you always left amazed at what you just saw. Visually, it was light years ahead of it's time.
Meddle was a totally underrated album. If you put on headphones and listen to Echoes, you hear one of the best sides of any album made. Dark Side was great, but way too commercialized. Wish You Were Here is probably their best work as a group. I though Animals was lame. The rot had set in by then and it was Waters at the controls totally. The Wall was, imo, a waste of time. Except for Comfortably Numb that is. Gilmour's best work for sure.

[bigstickbonzo]

I would agree...Gilmour isn't in the same class of musician as Page or Hendrix. But he certainly is one of the greats in rock and roll guitar history. Next to Duane Allman, I can't think of anyone of that generation who played a better slide guitar.

[JTM]

Next to Duane Allman, I can't think of anyone of that generation who played a better slide guitar.

What about Ry Cooder......and Ronnie Wood........

[caroselambra~]

I would agree...Gilmour isn't in the same class of musician as Page or Hendrix. But he certainly is one of the greats in rock and roll guitar history. Next to Duane Allman, I can't think of anyone of that generation who played a better slide guitar.

you should hear *stan the man* at the flying swan, lakeside, bowness, windermere.