Nutrocker Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Once the soundboard is out I expect the eventual matrix of the board and Freezer's recording should be fantastic. That said, IMO I'm sure the AUD recording will kick the raw SBD's ass- Freezer was a master taper; I prefer his stuff even to Millard's. I probably have more of his tapes in my collection than any other taper, starting with my first bootleg LP of the Stones in Baton Rouge '75, back in 1986 or so... I wonder if we'll be able to hear Freezer's whistle blasts on the SBD tapes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieShouldHaveListened Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Once the soundboard is out I expect the eventual matrix of the board and Freezer's recording should be fantastic. That said, IMO I'm sure the AUD recording will kick the raw SBD's ass- Freezer was a master taper; I prefer his stuff even to Millard's. I probably have more of his tapes in my collection than any other taper, starting with my first bootleg LP of the Stones in Baton Rouge '75, back in 1986 or so... I wonder if we'll be able to hear Freezer's whistle blasts on the SBD tapes... sorry if i seem out of the loop but i was wondering who Freezer was and what shows he taped. the 1975 baton rouge show sounds so great, I'd love to hear other shows that he taped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hrsoflunacy Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 sorry if i seem out of the loop but i was wondering who Freezer was and what shows he taped. the 1975 baton rouge show sounds so great, I'd love to hear other shows that he taped. Freezer is the moniker of a taper from Louisiana who has been taping artists for decades. He is a very colorful fella, and I will refrain from stating his actual name for his privacy. He taped Led Zeppelin 4 times: 1971.08.29 - Municipal Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana 1973.05.14 - Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana 1975.02.28 - Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 1977.05.19 - Louisiana State University Assembly Centre, Baton Rouge, Louisiana The 1973 and 1975 recordings circulate amongst the trading circles. The 1971 and 1977 recordings are closely guarded and will only be traded if someone has something he really wants (which right now is a SBD of a Doors performance thought to exist, but not seen the light of day). I have a few of his recordings, but other than the Stones, I would have to go through my lists to tell which ones I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohjimmy Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Freezer is the moniker of a taper from Louisiana who has been taping artists for decades. He is a very colorful fella, and I will refrain from stating his actual name for his privacy. He taped Led Zeppelin 4 times: 1971.08.29 - Municipal Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana 1973.05.14 - Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana 1975.02.28 - Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 1977.05.19 - Louisiana State University Assembly Centre, Baton Rouge, Louisiana The 1973 and 1975 recordings circulate amongst the trading circles. The 1971 and 1977 recordings are closely guarded and will only be traded if someone has something he really wants (which right now is a SBD of a Doors performance thought to exist, but not seen the light of day). I have a few of his recordings, but other than the Stones, I would have to go through my lists to tell which ones I have. wow would love to get my hands on the new orleans 71 show.....but i guess with hoarders like this guy it will take forever.....such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hrsoflunacy Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 wow would love to get my hands on the new orleans 71 show.....but i guess with hoarders like this guy it will take forever.....such a shame. Gimme gimme gimme, no one is ever happy. Well, the hoarder did circulate two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Gimme gimme gimme, no one is ever happy. Well, the hoarder did circulate two of them. Indeed...I love it when people call Freezer a hoarder. If he's such a hoarder, how come I've got something like twenty or so of his recordings? Considering how certain Led Zeppelin collectors have fucked the dude over over the years (I'm sure some of you know the stories as well as I do), I can't fault him one iota withholding his '71 and '77 Zep tapes. That said, I am about 99.9% certain he has given out a copy or two of at least the '77 show, but, hey...if you were given a copy of something directly from the taper with strict instructions to keep it to yourself, well, you'd honour that agreement, wouldn't you? In a way it's kind of a shame that the impending release of the SBD of the '75 Baton Rouge show essentially makes the years-long debate over the lineage of Freezer's AUD recording a moot point for most collectors...that debate has a fair bit to do with why the '71 and '77 recordings (among other, non-Zep Freezer recordings) are still being 'hoarded', lest we forget... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3hrsoflunacy Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Indeed...I love it when people call Freezer a hoarder. If he's such a hoarder, how come I've got something like twenty or so of his recordings? Considering how certain Led Zeppelin collectors have fucked the dude over over the years (I'm sure some of you know the stories as well as I do), I can't fault him one iota withholding his '71 and '77 Zep tapes. That said, I am about 99.9% certain he has given out a copy or two of at least the '77 show, but, hey...if you were given a copy of something directly from the taper with strict instructions to keep it to yourself, well, you'd honour that agreement, wouldn't you? In a way it's kind of a shame that the impending release of the SBD of the '75 Baton Rouge show essentially makes the years-long debate over the lineage of Freezer's AUD recording a moot point for most collectors...that debate has a fair bit to do with why the '71 and '77 recordings (among other, non-Zep Freezer recordings) are still being 'hoarded', lest we forget... Seems it's cool to have things in private collections unless it is a bootleg recording. I regret mentioning the other two tapes, and certainly won't go into what else is known to be out there. I think you are right about the '77 tape. Seems he gave a copy to some of the mods at the den of traders before a certain someone opened his mouth about it. Anyway, back on topic - I look forward to this upcoming release, and I am sure there will be some remasters and matrices to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3hrsoflunacy Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Samples are a Dime a Dozen. The release is available to those who know where to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conneyfogle Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickZepp Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Pretty good soundboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwkn Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Sounds like Empress Valley hit another homerun with this set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledded1 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 This is a great release. Just listen to the band on fire!!! Bonzo and Jimmy are on top form. Roberts voice is a little raw at times but I don't care he carries it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzyEric Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Matrix is now on Dime That was fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesunday Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Sorry, but Baton Rouge doesn't hold a candle to St. Valentine's. The latter is overall a superior performance, especially by Page. There are some high points w/Baton Rouge, but after a thorough listen, ST. Valentine's gets the nod for a better performance, overall. Not sure I'd keep Baton Rouge around for much. There are more inspired '75 performances worth listening to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conneyfogle Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Sorry, but Baton Rouge doesn't hold a candle to St. Valentine's. The latter is overall a superior performance, especially by Page. There are some high points w/Baton Rouge, but after a thorough listen, ST. Valentine's gets the nod for a better performance, overall. Not sure I'd keep Baton Rouge around for much. There are more inspired '75 performances worth listening to... I agree, it's not the best, but the sound is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammersmith Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Freezer is the moniker of a taper from Louisiana who has been taping artists for decades. He is a very colorful fella, and I will refrain from stating his actual name for his privacy. He taped Led Zeppelin 4 times: 1971.08.29 - Municipal Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana 1973.05.14 - Auditorium, New Orleans, Louisiana 1975.02.28 - Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 1977.05.19 - Louisiana State University Assembly Centre, Baton Rouge, Louisiana The 1973 and 1975 recordings circulate amongst the trading circles. The 1971 and 1977 recordings are closely guarded and will only be traded if someone has something he really wants (which right now is a SBD of a Doors performance thought to exist, but not seen the light of day). I have a few of his recordings, but other than the Stones, I would have to go through my lists to tell which ones I have. I have two recordings that he did of The Who too: 11-21-75 Baton Rouge (Very similar in sound quality to his Led Zep '75 Baton Rouge recording). 7-7-80 Baton Rouge (again, another very good sounding recording). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I have two recordings that he did of The Who too: 11-21-75 Baton Rouge (Very similar in sound quality to his Led Zep '75 Baton Rouge recording). 7-7-80 Baton Rouge (again, another very good sounding recording). Yeah, that 1975 'Oo show is a good one...his 1971 NOLA Allman Bros recording is by far one of the best I've heard for that era. I've never heard a bad sounding Freezer recording, even the ridiculously genned-up ones. It indeed pisses me off to no end how Freezer is among the last of a dying breed of old-school tapers and people who aren't even fit to rewind his tapes insist on shitting all over the guy, calling Freezer a 'hoarder', etc, undoubtedly while one of his recordings plays in the background! I mean, from what I've read over at the Den, etc, this current atrocity being passed off as a 'matrix' of the new Baton Rouge '75 SBD recording with a crappy version of the audience tape by Derek McCabe and the MOTB crowd was deliberately badly done just to annoy Freezer, whom McCabe has personal issues with. And the matrix does sound like shit- all swimmy and flanging, really crappy sound. Fucking amateur hour. The raw SBD of this show is good, but the audience tape is still the be all, end all for this collector. Avoid the MOTB sanctioned matrix at all costs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammersmith Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Yeah, that 1975 'Oo show is a good one...his 1971 NOLA Allman Bros recording is by far one of the best I've heard for that era. I've never heard a bad sounding Freezer recording, even the ridiculously genned-up ones. It indeed pisses me off to no end how Freezer is among the last of a dying breed of old-school tapers and people who aren't even fit to rewind his tapes insist on shitting all over the guy, calling Freezer a 'hoarder', etc, undoubtedly while one of his recordings plays in the background! I mean, from what I've read over at the Den, etc, this current atrocity being passed off as a 'matrix' of the new Baton Rouge '75 SBD recording with a crappy version of the audience tape by Derek McCabe and the MOTB crowd was deliberately badly done just to annoy Freezer, whom McCabe has personal issues with. And the matrix does sound like shit- all swimmy and flanging, really crappy sound. Fucking amateur hour. The raw SBD of this show is good, but the audience tape is still the be all, end all for this collector. Avoid the MOTB sanctioned matrix at all costs! I agree 100 percent, Nutrocker. I haven't heard a bad "Freezer" recording yet. His '75 Zep & Who recordings are right up there with the best of them, as far as audience recorded shows go (and I don't mean the Who recording that was offered at LLR either, I'm talking about a low gen. one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzyEric Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Yeah, sorry I finally listened to the Matrix and it sucks. I went over to Dime to see if anyone explained why and then I saw the battle between Freezer and McCabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Zep Gurl Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Got this soundboard last weekend and it is great! The version of No Quarter has to be one of the best versions I have heard live! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Zeppelin Fan00 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I was at the '77 BR show... Zep came on about 9 - traffic from a bad accident. Show ended at 12:30. I was 6 feet from the stage - deaf for the entire next day. Plant said right after they played Going to California: "It's kinda hard to stand on a mountain of dreams when there's all those little green things flying at you"... (referring to those green light-sticks which were prominent at the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxHorn Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the story is behind the master tape of this show? Like, where was it these last 35 years before it surfaced, and what caused it to surface when it did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the story is behind the master tape of this show? Like, where was it these last 35 years before it surfaced, and what caused it to surface when it did? Do you mean the soundboard or the audience recording? Well, the master of the audience recording is definitely NOT in circulation...a version was just shared online purporting to be a "12th Gen" tape (previously Freezer stated that the bootlegs used something like 15th generation..., and it is indeed the finest sounding version of the audience source thus far. Puts all the bootlegs to shame, IMO. Including the soundboard. Considering the flood of 1975 soundboards we've seen the last couple of years, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole fucking tour exists in soundboard format...the bootleggers let 'em out one at a time 'cos you don't want to flood the market. Over the years I've heard stories that these '75 SBD tapes came directly from a SHOWCO employee, or even from Page's own stash that was stolen back in the 80's. Who knows for sure...chances are we probably won't ever know the whole story. Then again, I'm probably in the minority of Zep collectors not to get worked up about this "Soundboard Revolution". I prefer audience tapes...even the crappy ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig_Paiste Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Where can I get a copy of this please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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