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  1. Look at 'The Rain Song'. The string (mellotron) arrangement is all JPJ, and the song would not be what it is without it, and it's definitely his arrangement - He didn't get a writing credit. Look at 'Stairway to Heaven' The recorder arrangement (and playing) at the beginning is all Jonesy - No writing credit If you do a bit of research around the Page/Plant era (when Jones was mightily pissed off about not being involved, or being informed about it directly), one of his main gripes was that they were using recreations of his string arrangements (specifically Rain Song and Kashmir) without him being there. He was an arranger before Zeppelin, and he still arranges for strings - listen to Zooma (Snake Eyes), much of REM's 'Automatic For The People' for good examples. Jimmy Page is not a string arranger, so it's highly unlikely he did it, although he may have had input into the direction it went. RP can play the guitar a bit, and the harmonica. JB was a drummer, certainly with no orchestral experience. So, whilst It's an assumption that it was JPJ, it really isn't much of an assumption, more a simple process of elimination. They weren't going to bring anyone else in to do it if Jonesy could do it (and he could and still does)... the brass and string players they hired for the session definitely won't have come with their own arrangement - that just doesn't happen when you hire session musicians.
  2. Don't count JPJ out just because he didn't get a writing credit. The strings and brass players in there (that he orchestrated/arranged) also get no credit. Kashmir has JPJ's fingers all over it.
  3. Badly mixed and badly mastered in the first place. Good mastering can iron out some of the problems of a bad mix, as we can hear in the latest remaster of ITTOD. However, even thought the new remaster is a vast improvement, it doesn't hide the fact that some questionable choices were made in the original mix. Back on topic... I think Presence sounds great.
  4. You mean Howard Mylett. He died about 6 years ago.…/
  5. It's the Wyre Forest, and the property is about 40 miles from the Welsh border. So it's nowhere near the border at all, really. The nearest big(ish) town is Kidderminster.
  6. Croatia? WTF are you talking about? I live in Wales, and at the time I lived in London. I was on holiday on the canals in the West Midlands of England, not too far from Birmingham. And I didn't 'have a pint with Plant'. Where did i say that? He joined a group of his friends who were sat on the next table in the pub I was drinking in, which was about 3 feet away from me. All I'm relaying is what I overheard. I honestly couldn't give a toss whether you believe me or not. Edited to add... Oh, I see what you're getting at.... Plant was on tour in Croatia in parts of july 2007, wasn't he? He mentioned that he'd literally just got back from Monte Carlo, so that makes it about August 2nd 2007 according to the Dave Lewis tour diary. My mistake. My holiday had started at the end of July, but we were out on the boat for about 10 days. I'm not great with dates at the best of times, even less when I'm on holiday and I don't even need to know what day it is. Many apologies if you feel I've deceived you by misremembering a date from 10 years ago! Sheesh.
  7. Sons of Albion!
  8. Definitely. He was moaning about having to communicate with Page and Jones via email through their management/lawyers, wondering why they just couldn't get on the phone to discuss things - obviously not a fan of email and a little exasperated by Page and his management from the sound of it. He actually sounded pretty fed up about the whole thing, and the fact that it seemed to growing out of control - it was originally supposed to be held at the Albert Hall in London, after all, and a few other bands had pulled out because it was turning into a mainly Zeppelin event rather than a simple tribute to Ahmet Ertegun in their eyes. He said 'the beast has been awakened' and taken on a life of its own, just like the old days. The whole thing sounds like it became a far bigger deal than he had either anticipated or wanted. He also mentioned that he was busy with the Alison Krauss thing (which he was far more enthusiastic about), but the rest of the band were already rehearsing without him. I was obviously gobsmacked. Even more so when the gig was finally announced.
  9. Believe whatever you like. What reason would i have to make this up? I'm not going to argue with you. The only 'proof' you'd accept is a photo, and I didn't take any, mainly because I didn't really expect to bump into RP in a quiet village pub in the West Midlands, but also because he was with a group of friends and I didn't want to a rude 'fan' and bother him. I've bumped into him on two occasions, the second one being at the Borderline club in London, when I was at one of Logan Plant's bands gigs (can't remember what they were called now, but they were pretty good). He sat in the corner, had a can of Red Stripe, chatted to a few people and band after the gig, then got up and left.
  10. I was on holiday, having a quiet pint in a pub not far from one of his homes (I had no idea at the time). RP came in, sat down about 3 feet away from me with some friends, and started quite openly discussing the upcoming O2 gig (this was the July before and there 10-15 other people in the pub) and the logistical nightmare that it had become for him. One of his friends asked if he'd considered 'getting the band back together' for a tour/recording. RP was not impressed, and said he wouldn't work with 'those guys' again under any circumstances - this was it, the last time (and done properly this time), and he was only doing it because Ahmet Ertegun's wife had asked, as a tribute to Ahmet, who he called his dear friend. His attitude since the O2 gig doesn't seem to have changed, and he seemed quite adamant at the time.
  11. No. Robert will not work with JP and JPJ again. I heard it from his own mouth shortly before the O2. Unspin your head, and move on. It's over.
  12. Not a chance. Robert's 'any time now' is about his soon-to-be-released new album.
  13. It's not about note-for-note. It's about playing in time. I've watched a few of his videos and the guy has no sense of pulse whatsoever. Playing the guitar - or any instrument - isn't simply about learning the notes and playing them back like a tape machine. It's also about listening. This guy has learnt the notes (some are wrong, but that's not the point), but he's not listening, and reacting to, the backing track he's playing along with. He's knows his cue, and once he's got that, off he goes with no regard to what's going on - just gotta fit all those notes in! Finished before the backing track has? No problem - he fit all the notes in! If you teach somebody something wrong, they play it wrong pretty much forever. Teach it right once, and that's all you ever need. Teach it wrong and you expend 4 times as much effort putting it right than it did to learn it in the first place. I know this because I spend a great deal of time getting students to unlearn some of the bad stuff they've picked up watching videos like this and re-learning it correctly, because they've got to the point of realising 'it doesn't sound quite right, but I learned it by rote off this amazing video I found on youtube, so it must be right....'.
  14. If you're going to teach people how to do something, it's generally best to be able to actually do the thing that you're trying to teach correctly. This guy is like a clockwork toy - wind him up and away he goes, paying no attention to the music he's supposed to be playing over. This is not a good way to teach people, especially beginners. You are incredibly generous. It reminds me of the old Morecambe & Wise sketch (you probably won't know about this unless you're a Brit), where Eric Morecambe tries to play Grieg's Piano Concerto (very, very badly) and says "I'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order...".
  15. Well.... some of the notes were in the right place I suppose. Why do the people who make these videos insist on using vast amounts of fizzy distortion & reverb? Euch.