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  1. You are correct - and I too share your puzzlement about whether or not Black Swan is an expert, or just someone who makes confident-sounding assertions. I guess time will tell.
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    Led Zeppelin Quiz - Not EASY!

    I got stuck on that same one.
  3. I really doubt that. I agree with you RE Plant, but to my knowledge he's never out-and-out vetoed an entire reissue campaign or idea. I believe there are rumors that back in '81/'82 he vetoed a live compilation, forcing Page to do Coda as a studio compilation instead. And of course he's been against live reunions. But he didn't veto all the companion-disc material for the studio album reissues, or the added live tracks on the Complete BBC reissue, or the added tracks on the 2007 expanded TSRTS - or even the live LZ DVD for that matter, which was basically the live compilation Page had wanted to do back in '81/'82. So I don't think Plant will nix all new reissues. And while Page can exaggerate and delay, he doesn't outright lie when it comes to Zep releases. So when he said never-before-stuff will be coming out, IMHO you can bank on it. What exactly "never before heard" means, and how much or how little is coming out, and over what timeline - that's all stuff where I wouldn't take Page at his word on specifics, and I'd prepare to have modest expectations. But I really don't think the book will be the end of it.
  4. Somewhat credible rumors are circulating of a '68 release. Indications are that it will likely be studio material only - stuff held back from the 2014 Zep I reissue. In addition, the rumors are that a live release will be a compilation of tracks from multiple years, which I suppose could perhaps contain one or two '68 tracks, but I doubt that. (I suppose a '68 release could instead follow the Yardbirds '68 pattern and be a single-CD short-ish live performance with a 2nd, even shorter CD of studio outtakes - but if that were the case, I really feel that over the many years and decades some credible rumor or sign of an existing professionally or semi-professionally recorded '68 live tape would've surfaced.) As for the timing, all the press has been very clear about what is and is not part of the official 50th Anniversary "celebration." The TSRTS reissue is not part of that - the press release clearly says it's the final release in the reissue/remaster campaign of their back catalogue. And BTW, that tidbit strongly corroborates the idea that a live compilation will be coming out - because if the reissue campaign is complete, then the one thing that very conspicuously has not been reissued is the 2003 LZ DVD. And I would be flabbergasted if the Royal Albert Hall, Earls Court, and Knebworth performances on that DVD were simply allowed to die on the vine and not appear again in some form on some kind of reissue. Even in the context of Page/Zep's bizarre release decisions, that would make no sense. I'm certain (or at least as certain as one can be given that it's Zep we're talking about) that we'll see at least some of that material again in some reissued form, although who knows how long we'll have to wait, given that Page said in an interview that more stuff will be coming out over the next 10(!) years. The only 50th Anniversary release so far has been, as you noted, the book, which is coming out in October. My understand is that the original plan was to release TSRTS either earlier this year before HTWWW, or else this summer, with the first 50th Anniversary audio release coming in September. The TSRTS remastering job was completed a few (perhaps several) months ago. However, for whatever reason things got changed/delayed, and so TSRTS couldn't come out then. Most of the prior reissues have been released late in the month. The fact that TSRTS is coming out early in September - basically right after Labor Day when everyone in the US market will be back from vacation and paying attention again - strongly suggests that they're trying to get it out as soon as possible in the fall, in order to clear the way for a late-Sept or Oct announcement of a 50th Anniversary related audio release, to follow the book and come out sometime in the holiday buying season. This is all speculation, although I would say it is somewhat informed speculation and not totally random - and I don't think it's wishful thinking clouding my judgment either, since the above is far from ideal in terms what I would wish for! 😀
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    1975 US Soundboards "Live Album"

    Thanks - much appreciated! The 21st, then, is my favorite '77 version - and really the only one I seek out to listen to from that tour.
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    1975 US Soundboards "Live Album"

    Agreed - the keys need some serious reverb to sweeten them up. In addition, the band screwed up Kashmir with alarming frequency in '77 and '80, especially '80. In fact, I compiled my own Best of 1980 a few years ago, and I had a lot of trouble finding an error-free rendition of Kashmir. So for these reasons of performance quality and sound quality, almost the only post '75 live Kashmir versions I listen to are the fantastic one from Knebworth on the LZ DVD, and the version from the 2nd night of the July '79 Copenhagen shows. (There's also a version from either June 21 or 23 '77 that's great - I always forget which night. I only know that one night is great and on the other night they ran into trouble with it.)
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    1975 US Soundboards "Live Album"

    Wow, thanks so much for this! Like many others, I agree with most of your choices. I immediately found myself nodding "Yes" at several of them: Rock and Roll/Sick Again has to be from 3/21 Seattle since it's virtually the only soundboard from '75 where Plant doesn't start out really hoarse. Similarly, while reasonable people can disagree, I've always thought Baton Rouge 2/28 and In My Time of Dying is always where I really thing, "Man, they are intense on this night!" I also agree about Over the Hills from 3/19 (although the solo break on 2/12 is amazing), and of course Communication Breakdown on 2/13 is a no-brainer. Heartbreaker from 2/12 also intuitively makes sense, as it seems this song, especially Page's guitar, got more and more erratic as the tour progressed (I am guessing from Jack Daniels during the encore break). And of course TSRTS from Fort Worth - underrated show, and Bonham is the star of it both performance-wise and sonically, so TSRTS is an ideal track to use from it, I also agree almost entirely with your sources: Godfather's That's Alright NY is my favorite for 2/12, and Lirio and Grame have the best fan remasters when it comes to '75. The only modification I'd make - and it's not a big deal since it's only one song - is that Pseudonym did great fan remasters of 2/13 and 2/14. But the sources you used still are very good. I hear you on that, but March 11 isn't a top-tier '75 show IMHO, and March 20, while a great performance, unfortunately is a super compressed clipfest as released by EVSD. Dadgad has done a remaster where he basically declipped it, but still, the sonics leave a bit to be desired and the extended thereamin freakout in WLL is the only somewhat unique feature of this show that comes to mind. March 17 definitely would be a candidate for inclusion here, although I can't say off the top of my head which specific song(s) from that date actually are better than the equivalent songs included by ZepHead315.
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    Best Sounboards by Year

    Zurich and Frankfurt are the two best. It's become the conventional wisdom - but this is one of those times when the conventional wisdom is correct.
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    New 1968 Live shows for the 50th anniversary

    1977 was not multi-tracked. They were going to do a multitrack at the end of the tour, as they'd done in '73 and '75, but the '77 tour got cut short when Robert Plant's son passed away. As for '75, about 1/4 to 1/3 of the Earls Court setlist has been released officially, on the 2003 LZ DVD. But it would be fantastic to get a full audio-only Earls Court release.
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    Led Zeppelin favourite to headline Glastonbury 2019

    Some real money to be made... if you bet against Zep appearing at Glastonbury.
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    Nice topic - and nice list! Like Zep Head and others, I generally agree with you here. I actually would rank Fort Worth 5-22 in the top category (not legendary, but definitely very good to excellent) - for example I think it's a far better performance than the night before in Houston. Otherwise, though, I think you're spot on (or at least very close) on your rankings, at least for the '77 shows I'm most familiar with.
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    New "Song Remains The Same" 2CD/4LP/3DVD Deluxe Set

    Folks, it's definitely just a remaster of the 2007 version - so no original No Quarter, no restored Crunge section in Whole Lotta Love, and no superior guitar solo in Celebration Day. I've bought all the prior reissues, and I really love the Blu-Ray of How the West Was Won and don't care about the removal of "Mary Lou" from Whole Lotta Love - but this time, I'm taking a pass. No reason to get this: Fans already have pieced together great edits combining the original tracks with the added 2007 tracks, and remastered the whole thing to all sound similar and superior to the official versions. The sound quality on this new reissue likely will top the fan versions, but probably only slightly, and it's just not worth it IMHO given the horrid edits in the official 2007 version.
  13. I'm with you on this, but it is what it is. Also, the 2007 LP set was half-speed mastered by Stan Ricker. Not trying to be a jerk - just FYI.
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    New Yardbirds

    New Yardbirds footage on YouTube - and on bootlegs and everywhere else - claims to be from October '68, but it's not. If memory serves, it's from parts of two shows in '69. One is from mid-March.
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    Favorite Plantations

    I always liked the Bridge the Midget Plantation from the 1971 BBC show. Plus the "1-2-3 Mr. Bonham!" interlude in Osaka 929 when Bonham leaves the stage for awhile.
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    Weakest Studio Album Opening Track

    Yeah, this was a band that really knew how to open an album. If I had to pick a weakest opener, though, it would be what's been mentioned: either Custard Pie or the fake-soundcheck We're Gonna Groove from Coda. I love Custard Pie, and like paul, I prefer the real live version of WGG to the fake version on Coda. On the other hand, the 7-track Physical Graffiti Deluxe Companion disc opens with a version of Trampled Under Foot, and I've been very impressed with that as an opener. So I agree there were other choices besides Custard Pie to open PG well.
  17. That's a great deal! I got mine from Amazon Canada because it was the best deal at the time I ordered it. Cost me about $19US including shipping, and I'm happy enough with that price. Mine arrived yesterday in great shape, with both stickers. And yes, I slit the shrinkwrap from the top. 😀 Quick tip RE slicing open the shrink, to avoid damaging the top edges of the sleeve: and the record: use an Xacto knife (or whatever) to make a very small cut(s) wherever there is a natural air gap at the top of the sleeve. Then use a duller, non-damaging thin item like a guitar pick to extend the small slit the full width of the top.
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    Underrated/overrated shows

    I think the OP's list is great and covers a lot of the bases (and yes. 6-22-77 was the first show that popped into my head when I read the thread title). And subsequent posts I mostly agree with too. For overrated, I'd add Vancouver 3-21-70. Tried and tried but cannot get into it, and esp. compared to other 1970s shows - Royal Albert Hall, Montreux, LA Forum, Madison Square Garden, and of course Bath - it just pales. For 1980, to each their own, but I don't think anyone can call it overrated, because it's so frequently trashed - you can say it sucks, but you can't call something overrated if it already has a bad reputation. For underrated, I'd throw in Tokyo 9-23-71. It's a well-regarded show, but still criminally overlooked in general because of the legendary 929 show. 929 has a slight edge because the setlist is so very unusual and interesting - but 9-23 is fully its equal performance-wise IMHO. Oh - and I'll also include the Paris 10-10-69 show in the underrated category. No, it's not April '69 on the US West Coast, but still, I've always loved this show ever since I first heard it many years ago - and since it got released officially as the Zep I companion disc, its reputation seems to have gone from "okay" to "bad," for reasons that IMHO have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the performance. I think it's great, and also pretty interesting - hilarious stage banter, a fantastic You Shook Me, the only Good Times Bad Times/Communication Breakdown opener that exists in decent sound quality, and the first known live performance of Moby Dick (not to mention the only known live performance of the track before Zep II's release date).
  19. She is credited. And she even has her own, fifth symbol.
  20. Too young to have seen them live, but I agree about this track - and I think we're fortunate to have it, as it's the only known professionally recorded live version where Plant's voice still allows him to sing the original melody and hit the original notes. And it's a great performance.
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    Companion discs are rubbish

    I'm really liking the alt version of Friends from the Record Store Day single.
  22. Any candidate would have to exist in multitrack form - soundboards will not be released. The only two-track mixdowns that would be/have been released are things like BBC and the 1969 Paris show, which were mixed for broadcast - far different than a normal soundboard, which is mixed for the venue and therefore not as balanced or polished as a mixdown for broadcast. To me the obvious choice is Earls Court: 2 full dates multitracked, and part of a 3rd date multitracked, very good to excellent performances, 3 nights' worth of vocals to mix and match for the best result - and among the longest sets Zep ever played, meaning Page could cut out plenty of stuff he feels is not up to snuff and would still easily have 2-1/2 hours' worth of first-rate material for a 3-CD/4-LP/Blu-Ray audio release similar to How the West Was Won. I'm not saying they won't put out other shows too - for example Japan '71 - but it's hard for me to imagine them trying to salvage a passable Southampton release, or cobble together a full-ish setlist from Knebworth, without first releasing Earls Court. And yes, I would be over the moon if a properly mixed two-track tape of Montreux 1970 exists in Claude Nobs' vault and if it could be officially released. That show is a killer, and aside from Japan I think it's one of the only shows on our dream/wish-list that might actually have an existing source that we haven't heard yet, and that is good enough sound quality for Page to release it. Time will tell...
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    Mono mixes on ITTOD companion?

    Thanks! Yes, Zep never released true mono mixes of anything. As for Good Times Bad Times/Communication Breakdown, there's a very nice rip circulating of that one (I think from a French 45), and even with the Haeco-CSG process, the resulting center-of-the-mix energy is quite something: Communication Breakdown just punches you in the face from the first moment to the last. It's very cool.
  24. I agree with the OP - TSRTS version, the original 1976 mix/edit, is the best. Happy to have so many versions available on bootlegs, but the official one still is tops IMHO.