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JohnOsbourne

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  1. There is no known recording of the Bloomington show. I would be very surprised if one ever appears (it's been too many years, something from the audience would have shown up by now), unless by some miracle Page opens up the vaults.
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    Robert Plant Oakland 07/24/77

    All of the 75-77 shows were recorded, the real question is, which of these are in possession by the "soundboard revolution" source. Almost certainly, it's not all of them. In particular I wouldn't hold my breath for the Pontiac show.
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    Nitpicking Page 1973

    In addition to Seattle, you should do the first Detroit show (7-12-73).
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    What exactly is a "waterhead"? I suspect I am one, but it never hurts to check.
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    Empress Valley Warning

    A bigger issue: how exactly does one spit a dummy?
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    The raw power of the 1973 kezar stadium show.

    I like the person hanging from the stage in the "bird-petting" picture. And I think others have said before: what's the point of dry ice at an outdoors concert in the afternoon?
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    Nitpicking Page 1973

    Agreed, the sloppiness that would creep in on some American shows like New Orleans or Dallas is nothing compared to Southampton. Still, killer sound, and it's still '73, so some tolerance is called for. Overall I find the first leg of that British tour (in Dec72) to be unfairly overlooked, Manchester and Glasgow are two of my favorite shows. (From the second leg, Bradford also cooks.)
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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    I guess I'll have to find some way to carry on, without you thinking I'm a Zep fan.
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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    Ha ha, no sooner do I slam '77, then I'm reminded, this is indeed a very good solo.
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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    Not sure which is worse: that horrid bass, or Page's terrible playing. Sorry, I just don't understand why people enjoy '77.
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    Nitpicking Page 1973

    Fair enough, I just think the 7-6-73 show had a number of extenuating circumstances that make its choice problematic for that exercise. I would say the New Orleans show or Kezar better fits the bill (both definitely overrated by '73 standards).
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    Nitpicking Page 1973

    I'm not sure the first Chicago show is the best one to "nitpick". They doubtless needed a bit of a warm-up after the break from the first leg, and the audience was clearly a distraction (that's what Plant was referring to after DC, also was surprised people said something "sucks" back then). And ultimately of all the night's problems, Plant is by far the biggest one. The next night would have been better to nitpick, it's an excellent, overlooked show. Ironically both this show and the previously reviewed Vienna show highlight how important the interplay between Page and Bonham was to the band. And I have to say I'm puzzled how these shows and the '75 ones that have been reviewed get lower grades than the LA '77 shows. I'm not a musician, but it just seems clear to my ears that Page's fluidity and (more important) spontaneity were always better even in sub-par 73/75 shows than even the best of '77.
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    New "Song Remains The Same" 2CD/4LP/3DVD Deluxe Set

    That is a great clip, I'll give that much credit. But overall this sounds like a money-grab, sad to say.
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    Best Stairway

    Impeccable version, and great video.
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    The raw power of the 1973 kezar stadium show.

    That is great footage, agreed.
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    The raw power of the 1973 kezar stadium show.

    Sorry, have to disagree. I'm a huge '73 aficionado (esp. July), but I've always found this show (and the '73 Cali shows in general) to be overrated. It's definitely not as good as the Forum show the next night. Which is not to say those aren't great shows (it's '73 after all), just that they're not as legendary as they're made out to be. Still, Kezar does finish strong, amazing STH, great HB and encores.
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    Best OTHAFA from the 1973 North American tour?

    I really like the Milwaukee version (overlooked show in general). Buffalo is also great, as is 7-28.
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    pick one

    Agreed about NQ. DC is also fantastic at this show, great overall concert.
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    Iron Maiden and Judas Priest

    Slightly OT, but there's a funny story about Maiden sending a demo tape (with their pre-di'Anno singer, I believe) to Swan Song offices in the late '70's, but it was of course lost in the drug haze there. (And also probably irrelevant, but Priest was on the bill at the notorious final Zep shows in Oakland in '77.)
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    Iron Maiden and Judas Priest

    I'm a huge fan of both bands. I generally agree with the observations here re. Priest's superior overall variety, esp. their 70's output, and I'd probably also give Maiden a very slight edge on 80's stuff alone. I still follow Priest actively (love Firepower, their latest), but to be honest I stopped following Maiden after Dickinson left the band after Fear of the Dark, and for some reason I couldn't get motivated to check out their material after he returned. (I still listen to their older material regularly.)
  21. Agree w/Dancing Days, mainly because it was somewhat pointless, they almost never improvised anything (the 1st London '72 show being an exception), so it was pretty much the same version every night. At least with MMH on the Euro tour '73, Page would mix things up a bit during the guitar solo (which for some reason he stopped doing on the American tour).
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    Updated Soundboard Wish List

    Have to disagree with the previous two posts about the '73 and first '75 SD show. I've generally found the San Fran and LA shows in '73 to be overrated, I think SD is the best of the Cali bunch (a tad on the sloppy side by '73 standards, admittedly). I've always really liked the first SD show in '75, it definitely gets overlooked. You can sense throughout that the band is energized to be back on the West Coast, esp. after the lackluster Texas shows. A caveat, I enjoy the gloomy, murky vibe from the audience recording, it's possible the show will be a disappointment when the soundboard comes out, akin to Landover. The 2nd SD show in '75 is indeed shit, except for the epic NQ. The band really sounds like they woke up late that afternoon and realized they had a show that night, they sound completely unprepared.
  23. Rey said the 6-23-77 version was 40 minutes long, if I recall it's "only" around 32 minutes. Even if you include banter/Plantations, it seems clear he was exaggerating.
  24. 7-28-73 is perfect, no doubt. But 7-29-73 is almost as good, and there are many other truly great versions from '73 and '75 (at which stage it was basically a different song). The 40 minute versions are a myth, probably started in Luis Rey's book. The '77 versions were in the 32 minute range.
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    Am thinking Jimmy must be the sb source

    Yes. There are many reasons to doubt Page as the source, but this is a big one.
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