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Mithril46

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  1. Mithril46

    Wow! It finally happened!!!

    Yeah. I never listen to "Classic Rock Radio". The last time during regular programming you would hear "In The Light" or "Tea For One" was in the very early eighties at best. Although when the first box-sets and remasters came out, the situation did improve somewhat for a year or two. Actually "Fool In The Rain" is actually I'm told played a lot. My two cents is that I started to listen to FM rock stations about 1977, about 40 miles from NYC. So there were the local independent stations and a few city ones, and 4 or 5 of those often played for 30 or 45 minutes no commercial breaks, and played EVERY Zep song from all the studio albums released up to that point. Then the corporations..........
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    MOVIE QUESTIONS: The Song Remains The Same

    What about Jimmy apparently getting totally pissed off because some of the Shepperton shots showed he had gotten a little potbelly ? Or is this a cooked up scenario, although Richard Cole ( to believe or not to believe!?!??) had often said Page was quite vain.
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    Consoling Plant.

    Well not to shoot off, but Jimmy had for awhile before the 77' disasters started to be looked upon by Robert as a man headed for the abyss. So from my view( Not Robert's), I would hardly want a ghost of a person(Jimmy) attending something as serious and somber as a funeral. In theory it sounds good if Jimmy had attended, but junkies have only one master.
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    The Trouble with Bonham. 1978-80

    Well to me Bonzo was still capable of greatness in 77', overall played well at Knebworth, but a good portion of the 80' tour Bonzo just was not himself. IMO, he had an almost steeper decline than Jimmy. I have all the 80' shows and a good portion of the time Bonham is just keeping time, all of the skill set Bonzo usually had wasn't on display much. Obviously alcohol and being quite overweight hurt his stamina, apparently.
  5. Well some of Yes/Genesis stuff Jimmy could only play if he was constantly playing or practicing, which he clearly wasn't from about 75' on, if not earlier. The whole timing thing with Black Dog, actually in the main riff there is a dotted eighth note among the other eighth notes. If you miss that, yes, everything collapses.In the studio track Page mainly sticks locked in in the end solo, live Jimmy would often fight the beat and only occasionally play "along" with JPJ and Bonzo. Live, yes Bonzo would very noticeably be behind the beat, and vary on that as well. Which would be a major headache if you tried a live version with your band.
  6. First "absolute genius" was ALS. I had heard about 6 or 7 Zep tracks and I thought Page was great, but ALS had that amazing guitar architecture and the guitar solo which had these radical EQ shifts which are impossible live. Also the opening section and the end, sound like some ancient civilization which was very advanced but has been lost or forgotten. Whatever, the song is just truly exotic for me, Page in particular.
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    Cause of plant/JPJ friction

    Not to generalize, but Brits seem to be "allowed" to make certain comments or jokes about someone else that would look rude or hammer blunt to us here in the states. I've watched some pretty funny Brit series or soap operas, and right alongside the formal manners are rather naked and very pointed barbs which are not taken in great offense. I think it's "Taking the Piss Out of Someone", a English quirk for sure. Don't know what to make of Plant and Jones, somewhat convoluted.
  8. Well, let's see what would happen if Robert failed to sell 1000+ tickets in a bunch of those 2000 or whatever capacity theaters he tends to play at. Some thoughts about Zep's legacy: it took a good 10-15 yrs or more after Zep's end, but particularly from 77 on live, quite a few even moderate Zep fans noticed the band deteriorating , yet has that really struck the band down ?? I've put on some actually decent 77' boots at parties, and 75% of the time by NFBM, heavy complaints start coming in. Not advocating a reunion, but what the band did studio and live up to about 77' or so, was so unique and magical I'm not sure if anything could wipe that out. Think about Floyd, after the WALL , so much astounding music had been created that their greatness was carved in stone, later feeble releases almost didn't matter. But the ABBA situation has little in common with new Zep songs. But also trying to get the remaining Zep's together, could be as tricky as trying to reboot an old love interest, emotion rules.
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    Gibson files for bankruptcy protection

    PRS is getting weaker on the QC, but not yet in the Gibson range. I bought a Santana SE( first non U.S. guitar, made in Korea) in 2001, $549 with exc soft case, great guitar, a serious instrument. You can spend the same now, but not with the "free" substantial soft case, and the fretwork, fit, and finish, can vary a bit within the same non U.S.model. But still almost always on par with Fender at that price point and almost always superior to Epiphone. U.S.PRS prices have increased, but my U.S. 2014 custom 22 semi-hollow body( 2-day promotional demo model, A+, $1,050 ebay) is far superior to any Gibson at that price, although fully new at the time, $1,400, still a Gibson killer. Although now new the guitar is $1,800, the value factor is narrowing, some arrogance seems to be evident. Many feel that PRS has been superior to Gibson to a degree for a long time as far as guitar ergonomics, tuning stability, tonal versatility and overall quality, but only recently has it seemed that the cheaper U.S. models have started to approach the "personality" of great Gibson pickups. I remember trying out in 2000 or 2001 some U.S. PRS models, only the $2200 McCarty had the "rainbow" magic of great Gibson pickups.Ah, whatever, it's all debatable.
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    Gibson files for bankruptcy protection

    Perhaps another issue is that Gibson Jr.( Epiphone) really makes awful guitars in general, although for some reason the acoustics, semi-hollows and jazz boxes above $500-$600 tend to be fair to pretty good. Below that, you have dried out necks, dead frets, fret buzzing unless the action is set unacceptably high, although some of the pickups are actually good. But Fender and PRS can build almost professional instruments for less than $500, just trying a few to get a winner. I have sometimes tried 3 or 4 $1500+ Gibsons in a row, and even allowing for drifting setups and such, most of the guitars were maybe 20% better at most than $500 various offshore brand versions. What's happening now is online and retail quite a few Gibsons' are being discounted unlike anytime before, so I would wait a little more, regardless of a takeover or restructure, you could get a great deal, not just good. I have a 71' Les Paul that sounds great and almost magically needs almost no attention to work fine, and the same for my 02' ES-446. These guitars don't need constant adjustments, daily nut lubes, or retuning every song, etc.. There is a reason Gibson is a legend: hope they find they're way back !!
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    Filmed concerts

    Yes it was filmed, and evidence points to a much better audio source than previous. But a lot of this is still unclear....never heard a band member make a definitive statement, although maybe Peter Grant ??? may have in some interview. This whole topic drives many Zep fans crazy. There is quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that on the 77' tour many venues had full-show footage from the large video screens, but also evidence Peter Grant wiped all footage, or somehow blah blah disabled any recording ?!?!?!?. Whatever the case, there are always new snatches of shows appearing, but it does appear unlikely more than even a HANDFUL of full filmed shows even exist. Film, particularly, Video , may have been on closed-circuit cable, never recorded in the first place. Steve A. Would know best.
  12. No, No, just the main example is in the Ocean. You can clearly hear the two guitars particularly in the end "coda" section, and the solo is not the same as any of those two dates in the boots. There are other examples, and fixing mistakes here and there, okay, but I grow cold with two guitars. Actually Jimmy did that in live WIAWSNB, (BBC), but only over the solo, and the overdub is a bit sloppy, so what. If you aren't a musician, you may have to listen a bit more closely, but it's really not hard to hear. Another gross violation is the HTWWW video version of ALS at Knebworth, where Page has added in a second guitar harmonizing with the first, not heard on any boot I have, although that same harmonizer may have been used during the 77' noise solo and NFBM. No big deal for any other band, but the band has always prided itself on not using "outside help". But sure, cutting and pasting parts, replacing a few notes. Two guitars live I draw the line, a student asked me to figure that live "Ocean" part live, I then realized there were two guitars playing different parts.
  13. What Steve said is quite true. Also, I think Jimmy wants every release to be a grand event, not a low key steady trickle like other groups. And by now even the general public may have heard portions of good quality boots that are 5 times as amazing as most of TSRTS, etc., so if Jimmy decided to set up a Stones or King Crimson easy access (whatever)sbd or boot enterprise, the weak , poor quality, or mediocre performances would hardly make a dent in Zep's musical significance. You don't need Aleister Crowley or a deck of tarot cards to experience magic. A legendary Zep show is real magic. In fact I make it a point to only listen to Zep live at least 3 hrs before bed, they are a perpetual energy machine
  14. Well I'm the first responder, ha, ha. Reason # 1 Jimmy Page. It's very clear from the serious whitewashing of TSRTS and HTWWW that Jimmy can't accept letting his mistakes rest, he has to put his sticky fingers in, although the latest BBC stuff was so well played that serious corrections weren't necessary and the stuff was pro recorded anyway. But I find Jimmy's attitude silly, as even if one solo live didn't quite work, often the next song would have an excellent solo. Now there is some possible gray area with Zep playing covers live and some copyright issues. One of the best examples is the WLL oldies medley, but I have no idea if there was trouble with that on TSRTS. Reason# 2 The remaining Zep's, I've never heard any enthusiasm EVER for cleaning up boots or having large numbers of live stuff put out. Jimmy as I understand it can basically call the shots himself, but again Robert and John Paul simply don't care. A possible third reason is that it's not entirely clear that this gambit would make much money, although obviously it would be great for huge Zep fans.
  15. Are there still 2 guitars in places, and literally notes replaced in some solos ?? I have the boots for all this stuff, and while the film "TSRTS" concert is also a cut and paste job, nowhere are there 2 guitars. I understand that the new release is worth it, but Jimmy having two guitars in that 72' Ocean at times, cool for the general listener, not cool for a musician like me who tries to get the full Monty with one guitar. Still, probably going to give in, get it. Just realize Zep never actually sounded like that.
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