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Douglas Perkins

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  1. Coda Query

    Just today, I figured out just what really needs to happen here. This proposed 5-track EP may make people wonder just what is going on, why such a release would be necessary. They might not understand the track selection. So, I have come up with an alternate plan, which would make 2 of the tracks part of the new core catalog. First, regarding the alternate live version of No Quarter, It would be added to Coda Companion Disc 1, and Travelling Riverside Blues would be dropped. TRB is now where it belongs, on the expanded BBC Sessions and does not need to be duplicated somewhere else. Maybe Jimmy Page included it there because he may not have been thinking of redoing the BBC Sessions then, but now it is an unnecessary inclusion. The CD would be the easy part. Such a change on the LP would increase record 2 to 19 minutes average per side, rather than the 15 minutes per side that it is now. This would still be well within LP limits. It is only bad when each side of an LP runs over 26 minutes. As for the unedited version of Whole Lotta Love, a simple track substitution on the 2-CD and 4-LP sets would suffice. Both would be capable of holding the additional 35 seconds of the song. I believe that, in Page's zeal to make the DVD and CD/LP match perfectly, he forgot that live concert performances contain no "edit spots." The edit is necessary in the actual film in order to make the footage "work out," but, if the intent was to show what a Led Zeppelin concert was really like back then, and, to that end, their entire set, in the order in which they played the songs, was reproduced, then the audio release should have contained the unedited version from the very beginning. This track substitution corrects that. As for the other 3 tracks, this would now be both sides of the Immigrant Song single plus a bonus track. The average Led Zeppelin fan, if you can call an LZ fan "average," would understand this release much more readily. To overcome the sound quality mismatch problem the 1990 remasters should be used for all 3 tracks on the CD to give it an even sound throughout. Although the 2014-15 remasters are the superior way to hear these tracks, the 1990 remasters still sound really good. Page and George Marino made sure of that 27 years ago.As for the vinyl, it would be a 45-rpm single with Immigrant Song and Hey Hey What Can I Do on the A-side and Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux on the B-side. This would cause the A-side to have a running time of 6:19, but it would still fit. Fool In The Rain was 6:08, and the Beatles Hey Jude was 7:11, so there would be no problems here. I think that this is the definitive solution regarding what to do with these 5 tracks.
  2. Coda Query

    So, what we would have, if we followed my suggestion, is a 5-track EP. It would be sequenced as follows: (1) Immigrant Song (2) Hey Hey What Can I Do (3) No Quarter, original live LP version (4) Whole Lotta Love, original live LP version (5) Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux.
  3. Coda Query

    Now let's look at the second version of the catalog, which began with the 1990 remaster project, and includes the box sets and other compilations, the issue of the 1990 Remastered versions of the studio albums, The BBC Sessions, and the complete overhaul of the video and audio releases of The Song Remains The Same. Since most of us prefer full-length versions over short edits, I will not propose including those. So, in light of that, there were some new tracks which appeared on the 4-CD box set: Travelling Riverside Blues, White Summer/Black Mountain Side, Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux, and the unedited master of Nobody's Fault But Mine, with an extra intro riff. HHWCID was also included. The unedited version of NFBM is now the way the song appears on the 2015 Presence CD. And, with the upcoming reissue of the BBC Sessions, both TRB and WS/BMS will be brought forward, and in their proper place. But, When Page redid The Song Remains The Same, he left behind 2 more tracks. Now, don't get me wrong here. I actually prefer the newer versions of both the CD and the DVD. For 31 years, there were some discrepancies between the movie and the soundtrack, and Page did a wonderful job in finally getting both right. The video and audio releases are now in perfect synch. The DVD has the extra songs as bonus material, and the 2-CD's really show what a Led Zeppelin concert was like back then because Page put all the songs in the order they were played at that Madison Square Garden concert. But, if this had a downside, it would be the 2 tracks that were left behind, which used to be the standard versions of those 2 songs. First of all, there was No Quarter. The original LP version contained a different ending to the instrumental break, and Whole Lotta Love's original LP version was unedited. The first instrumental break in WLL was longer on the original LP, and contained two lines from The Crunge: "I'm just trying to find the bridge," and "Has anybody seen the bridge?" These were editied out of the movie version.
  4. Coda Query

    First, let's look at the first version of the catalog, 1969-1989. This would include all of the LP's, 8-tracks, cassettes, and singles released during that time period. It would also include the very first CD's mastered by Barry Diament of Atlantic Records and issued in the late 1980's. All we had were the 9 studio albums, the first version of the soundtrack of The Song Remains The Same, and the 10 singles. All of this has been brought forward, or has it? 3 of the singles, Good Times Bad Times/Communication Breakdown, Whole Lotta Love/Living Loving Maid, and Rock And Roll/Four sticks were in mono, but all they were was folddowns of the stereo versions. The 2 stereo channels were simply combined into one mono signal; they were not separate mono mixes. 6 of the other 7 were simply duplications of the stereo LP versions, nothing special there, either. Only one really stood out, and that was Immigrant Song/Hey Hey What Can I Do, because it was the original release of the B-side. This is the only single which might even have mild interest these days because of that. If you want to hear Hey Hey What Can I Do's original release, it would have to be the Immigrant Song single. This was the only original release from that era to not be brought forward in its original form. So, 2 of the tracks on such a proposed release would have to be both sides of this single, and, regarding HHWCID, it would not have any early fadeout, as it appears on the Japanese single and on The New Age Of Atlantic, so Jimmy Page's acoustic guitar tag would be heard in its entirety.
  5. Coda Query

    This got me to thinking just how could this track be brought forward in the 2015 version of the Led Zeppelin catalog? Since this track cannot be included on a core catalog release, then it would have to be reissued away from the core catalog on a release that does not necessarily have to live up to the same quality control standards. But, the problem would be, what else would be on such a release? This track could not be reissued all by itself! The thing about this track is that it is from a previous version of the LZ catalog. Are there any other worthy releases or tracks that at one time were the standard versions which have been left behind by Page in his ongoing zeal to improve the catalog? Is Page leaving a trail behind? Yes, he is, and I have figured out just what tracks should go with this 1990 track, if you take the "No worthwhile tracks or releases left behind" approach.
  6. Coda Query

    I have been wondering the same thing regarding why some tracks were included and some were not. But, I think I have figured out at least some of the reasons. My thought process began with why the combined drum solo edit, Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux was not included on the Coda companion discs. I believe the reason was twofold: (1) It was a created track from 2 previously issued tracks, and the creation was done in 1990, long after the band's recording career ended, so it would not fit from an artistic point of view. (2) It would have been a sound quality mismatch. Yes, the remastering technology used in 1990 was state-of-the-art at the time, but it was still primitive compared to what exists today. Such remastering differences would be detectable to the trained ear. Also, there is no original analog version of this track that Jimmy Page could remaster over and over again; it was created from the 1990 remasters of the 2 foundation tracks, so the 1990 remaster is the only version of this track that exists. Page would have to create it all over again in order to achieve a perfect sound quality match.
  7. Predictions for Coda

    WS/BMS on the 1990 box set and on the 12-track coda was an electric guitar solo by Jimmy Page, except for some bass and drums bits here and there. It was the closest thing to a studio version of the track ever recorded, and would pass for a studio version if there was a smooth way to edit off the applause at the end.
  8. Predictions for Coda

    I believe that Jimmy Page was trying to prevent having the same track appear twice on the same disc. For example, there would have been 2 alternate versions of "When The Levee Breaks" on the fourth album companion disc had he followed this suggestion. But, a redone BBC Sessions would be great, and, if Page has to increase to 3 discs, as opposed to 2 for the first release, so be it. WS/BMS needs to go SOMEWHERE in the 2014-2015 core catalog.
  9. Predictions for Coda

    It is now June 2015 and the track listings for the companion discs for Presence, In Through The Out Door, and Coda have now been posted on Amazon. I find it interesting that Travelling Riverside Blues is included, but White Summer/Black Mountain Side, The Girl I Love, and Something Else were not. I wonder if Jimmy Page is going to redo The BBC Sessions soon. The original did not include WS/BMS but a remake may include it? That early instrumental is the only track from the 1990 Remaster Project that has not yet been brought forward into the 2014-15 reissues, unless you consider Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreux a separate track.