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  1. Until I hear and see some information, I can't assume he was the writer of this particular part of the song. I also can't imagine that if he wrote much of this stuff in a song that all members agree was a high water mark AND, as is well known, he arranged the song, that he wouldn't receive writing credit. You are right in that he probably got screwed over a few times, and I believe that was one reason he was considering leaving the band to become a school teacher. Bands are very protective of information, especially in the 1970's. As an example, Page as a session player played guitar on many groups work without credit, some of this work required creative and artistic freedom. He would receive his pay for his time and that was that. No royalties or credit.
  2. So of all the great riffs, solos, musical achievements and arrangements I have always found the orchestra work and interplay with Plants description to be their most powerful and memorable, and obviously that's saying alot. Just those approx. 50 seconds from 3:25-4:15 is what I am trying to understand. Such creativity that no other band could come close to approaching. Then of course Plant howls back into the cycling scale riff it's perfect. I have searched and wondered about this. Was it purely the creation of the orchestra or was it pre written by Page? If this was simply paid work by a "session" violinist, I must know who they are so I can seek out their catalogue. Anyone know the orgin of this? I have to discount it being Pages work simply based on the complexity of it that he couldn't have worked through on a guitar and bow. If he did in fact construct that my level of admiration and awe, even if he worked it through somehow with the violinist. P.S I had at one time thought it might have been something JPJ might have wrote on his keyboard and it was then transcribed and translated into violin, but since he doesn't have a writing credit on the song, I have to discount that also.
  3. Yeah I had heard it was her but was pretty sure it wasn't. In fact, if my memory serves correct someone who appears to be her bf looks at her and says something and she smiles just as Robert hits a high note. One of those "far out" expressions.
  4. I was thinking about how many times I have seen this movie as I own it, though haven't seen it in years. Anyways, anyone know of a site or public disclosure, "hey that was me?!" Who or where are the two dudes who security allowed back stage? "Alotta fun alotta fun?" How about the cop who said somewhat tersely, "no comment"? Or the stadium crew guy who was called "a silly c___" by Peter Grant? The guy sticking his tongue out to the camera in an evil pose? The girl smiling when Plant wailed in Since I've Been Loving You? The cop during the same song who looks at Plant probably wondering why this screaming banshee is so popular with the ladies? The overly medicated long haired guy who was chased during Dazed in Confused? The people involved in the stolen money from the safety deposit box? The poor media guy who was chastised by Peter Grant during the public reporting (what newspaper do you work for?)? Just so many funny little incidents and people I recall from the movie and it would be funny to hear from one of them in the internet age, even if the stories were just second hand. Hell, some of them could be members on this site. Cheers.
  5. JPJ is certainly great, but the entire band was. Each of them amazing, and exponentially more lethal when fused together. As an aside, In all the soul searching and love for the band all these years, I've come to the conclusion that Page was it, he made everyone drive themselves to be so much better, to reach deeper, including Jonesy (in my estimation based on all my reading, analysis and even their infighting about writing credits). Yes, strong language to be sure, but his focus and ability to make rendition and generate a vision that the rest of the band generally followed, while he produced allowed and encouraged freedom of everyone to contribute put it all together. Even in some of the great riffs that Jonesy pieced together, it was always Page who could lay it into a context. Black Dog, the bombastic overpowering sound of No Quarter etc. Any band would be lucky to have Jonesy that's for sure, but I wonder how he would have expressed himself if not in LZ. Or any of them for that matter. Page was the wizard who wanted complete expression from everyone and he was rarely disappointed. Also, as this is a dissection of the individuals, I feel none of them felt more comfortable outside of LZ than Plant. What does this mean? I'm not sure, other than the fact that Plant was probably the most versatile and willing to just jam with anyone, no pretentious desire to always be the Rock God, especially as he aged and the music scene changed. Another of my rants in the moment. Cheers.
  6. Jimmy Page posted some thoughts on Chris passing and a photo of him onstage. Other artists also react on this page. Jimmy Page ✔@JimmyPage RIP Chris Cornell Incredibly Talented Incredibly Young Incredibly Missed. My favourite some from him vocally was probably "Say Hello To Heaven". The apex of rock singers from the 1990's on. RIP.
  7. I'm certainly not a hater, I find it humourous how it is reported that a possible reunion is in the works. I first saw this reported on Yahoo News, I about stretching the facts and making assumptions/
  8. Playing guitar is like swimming to Page. Good video, too bad his amp was drowned out.
  9. ` Probably has to do with a more toned down, acoustic only Zeppelin. Page wants to still rock out, live as he always has, without limitations. You have to take the Les Paul from his cold dead hands before he will do an acoustic only concert!
  10. The guy is cruel to the most hardcore who want and hope for a reunion of sorts from the surviving members. One wonders if he just decided "let's have a little fun and work up the villagers. Watch this....ANYTIME NOW. That outta do it".
  11. I don't know about a particular song, though I think as an album Houses of the Holy might be their most intricate and complex album from start to finish.
  12. Excellent video. You can see why Ahmet was so important to what was Led Zeppelin, he understood music of his time which is why he took a ballsy play on funding Jimmy Page without even knowing a thing about the band, but trusting Page and Grant would put something together that would be big. When would you see such a passion for good music be funded so "recklessly" as Ahmet did then? Bless his soul for leaving footsteps that no big corporate music company today would ever have the instincts, nor courage to follow. He and Plant seem to really get on here, and it's probably a big reason he did the reunion in 2007. I recall him mentioning Ahmet before doing Stairway to Heaven for the first time live in forever in 2007. Seemed to be the closing chapter of LZ for Plant.
  13. I tend to agree. Jimmy looks at Robert as a marriage he cannot ever walk away from, it's as if he relies on Robert, can't conjure up the courage to test the waters with others. The light that Plant brought to Pages music through his lyrics and delivery has never been found elsewhere and Page almost seems lost without Plant singing. It could be Plant singing off key, forgetting lyrics, sounding like an old dying hen and it would still appeal to Jimmy more than any young crooner. I've come to the conclusion that we will not see Page doing much creatively ever again unless Plant joins him on stage or in the studio, the chances of this seem slim and unfortunately this magical era in music will soon be put out to pastor. Thankfully we have memories and youtube. As much as Page suggested Clapton couldn't get past the blues, Page could never get past Zeppelin. I don't mean this as an insult, it's just one of those relationships forged in the cosmos that Page refuses to move on from. In some respects I can't blame him, in others, it's a shame he never found another writing partner that could at least provide some creative output that was at least memorable.
  14. He didn't go into details. Two times I heard him speak about that song either offering it himself or asking which songs he wasn't happy with. On one occasion he said "Song Remains the Same, I'd like to have that one back" and another time he suggests that he regretted that performance and felt it deserved better. My assumption is that he is referring to the vocal delivery rather than the lyrics, but I can't say for sure. Coincidentally, Page wrote it with the intention of it being an instrumental.