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gibsonfan159

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  1. Montreal 2/6/75 Underrated?

    I know people complain about the recording quality, but there are far worse sounding boots. Plant's voice isn't great, but it's as good as the MSG 73 shows. This show stands out to me as one of the few where Page is actually playing on his usual level with few flubs, and quite amazingly compared to most of the shows from 75. He must have ran out of whatever drugs he was taking for this show as his fingers are much more nimble. The "Sloppy" monicker can't be applied here when listening to his blistering Stairway solo. Of course an audience recording masks a lot of mistakes, so a soundboard might put it on a more level playing field. I actually like the string break on Over The Hills, which sends Jones and Bonham into a funk breakdown while Page switches guitars. Sick Again is played fluently without the "Fingers stuck in strings" sound Page usually has on this song. The tape clears up tremendously for Dazed and is played exceptionally.The encores are played with so much energy they almost sound like the show openers from 72/73, with Page again hitting every mark on the Black Dog solo just like his old self. The only thing that bugs me is the frequent panning. Not sure if that was done through the monitors (I've heard it in other shows} or if the tapers were doing it. I'll take this semi good audience recording over just about any of the soundboards from 75, with the exception of maybe Deus Ex Machina. But honestly, Page conjuring up his old self almost makes this more listenable in my opinion. What do you guys think?
  2. Montreal 2/6/75 Underrated?

    I completely agree. His fluidity at Montreal is unlike anything else I've heard from the 75 tour. If anyone would like to post side by side comparisons of 75 songs, I'll be glad to listen and compare, but this show really stands out to me for Page. He's simply on fire for this show. He's playing like he's got something to prove.
  3. Favorite opening song?

    Immigrant Song from Orlando 71. By far the heaviest version of this song. Bonzo's drums are up front and Plant's primal screams are like nothing else from this era of rock music.
  4. Montreal 2/6/75 Underrated?

    Lol, I feel ya. Welcome to the forum. Your summary of the show is right on par with how I feel. I think this show might be number one on my soundboard wish list. I had downloaded it weeks before but didn't really sit down and listen to it. Once I did, I had to keep checking to make sure it was a 75 date. My brain couldn't accept that Page was playing this well in 75.
  5. Companion discs are rubbish

    I'm not as disapointed in the material as I am the way it was released. That alternate SIBLY turned me on to the song after being bored by it for so long. One thing is certain with Zep and their marketing; Greed and product control to the max. Why not release all the companion songs on a double/triple disc set with new artwork? Forcing people to buy/rebuy all the albums was just begging for them to be pirated. At least a compilation album with new original artwork would've given collectors a good reason to buy it. It's no different than putting Hey Hey What Can I Do on a single instead of the album, just to force the sell of the single. In the digital age, this just isn't smart marketing.
  6. Dallas 3-5-75

    Those Dallas shows kinda bore me for some reason. Even though the OTHAFA is highly regarded, it's still not my favorite from 75. I like the 3/3 show a little more due to Bonzo flexing.
  7. What show or live song are you listening to now?

    That Kashmir is my favorite version. Not sure which source you have, but mine has Robert's vocals clipping quite often, unfortunately. Edit: I thought I was on the last page of this thread lol.
  8. Amsterdam 72 Video Question

    I'd guess the promoter was trying to "promote" himself a little and allowed the film crew in so he could show off and look like a big shot slinging money around. You can tell Cole is very uncomfortable about the whole thing, especially considering musicians at the time were under heavy scrutiny for tax evasion. It's definitely a weird situation though.
  9. What are some songs they played live that just make you cringe? Is there a bad version of The Rain Song? They played it so well consistently that I don't know if I've heard a bad version.
  10. What's the worst live performance of a song?

    It's certainly a matter of opinion, but I've always thought Page was below average on Destroyer. That TSRTS sounds like his fingers are taped together.
  11. What's the worst live performance of a song?

    Something Page always struggled with on the 75 tour- the Black Dog solo. This one is from Baton Rouge. How this show started off so great and turned a bit so bad near the end baffles me. I think Page may have indulged backstage during Moby Dick.
  12. What's the worst live performance of a song?

    I did a quick remaster on the Tempe Achilles and brightened it up. If you don't listen closely it doesn't seem different, but if you do pay attention, holy crap. They're all playing/singing different parts of the song out of sync. It's almost comical.
  13. Polishing The Boards

    This is the reverb setting I usually stick to. You'll have to play around and see what you like best. I do just enough to add depth to a soundboard. The "SIZE" and "MIX" settings are what make the biggest differences. I keep both kinda low. Delay I usually don't bother with because it can muddy up the mix. If you do use delay, make sure the feedback is very low so it doesn't carry over too much. You don't want it to last much more than a second and very subtle.
  14. What's the worst live performance of a song?

    Here's one where Jimmy fudges What Is And What Should Never Be, though he gets back on track.
  15. How about your favourite acoustic set?

    Even though the show in total wasn't great, I really like the acoustic set from San Diego 1977 with Mystery Train.
  16. Polishing The Boards

    Here's one I did of No Quarter from 2/28/1975, Baton Rouge. Again, just adding some reverb, slight delay, and EQ adjustment. If anyone wants the whole show PM me.
  17. Polishing The Boards

    Sorry for the late reply. I use V.6.
  18. Baton Rouge 2/28/75

    I love the first two-thirds of this show, but Page really gets off the mark on the last few tracks. The Black Dog solo is a nightmare. But In My Time, Kashmir, and No Quarter make it with the listen.
  19. Hard To Find Photos

    Jimmy looked like death.
  20. Peter Grant & Robert Plant interview 1976

    Watched this just this morning. For all the horror stories you hear about Peter Grant he seems like such a gentle person.
  21. Any chance a complete set might pop up of this show? Why are all my favorite show incomplete?
  22. Toronto 71, where's the rest of this show?

    Ah! For some reason I was thinking only the SB was available, though a complete SB would be awesome.
  23. Southampton 73- Why it's the best Zep bootleg So many people criticize this show because; 1- Plant wasn't in top shape. 2. Neither Page or Bonham matched the intensity of the European dates of 73. Plant was barely above medium shape, which I think added a sense of vulnerability to his vocals. He sang the songs differently, with almost a melancholy approach. He doesn't squeak and strain much (like in other shows) because he knows his limits. By the time he warms up around Dazed And Confused, he sounds pretty decent. Bonham and Page not matching the showoff performance of Vienna or Hamburg isn't necessarily a negative. Those performances, although impressive, were a bit on the extreme side. Any musician can go all out during a live performance, but it's the professional who knows how to stay in the pocket and not stray. Bonham's playing on the Hamburg show is almost overkill. Adding a fill every measure turns a song into a circus act. With that said, this performance isn't far off from the European shows. Page doesn't nail every lead 100%, but that adds to the realism of a band simply playing a show without realizing they're being recorded. And when he plays good, he's as good as he's ever been. Now, with those critiques aside, you have to give credit to one thing- sound quality. Holy shit does this recording sound good. Not good, simply amazing for a bootleg soundboard recording from 1973. No soundboard or audience recording from any other Zep show sounds this good, I don't care how many people tout Royal Albert Hall 1970 or Listen To This Eddie. This was a small venue and it really comes through that way. It's exactly like you're sitting in the fourth or fifth row, fifteen feet away from the band. No cheesy effects like the 77 shows, no lethargic playing like the 75 shows, no overprocessed EQ like the How The West Was Won album, no crap editing like the The Song Remains The Same album. This is up close and personal with a full setlist. How many people would say "How awesome it would be to see Zeppelin in their prime in a small club"? Well, this is it. How could you complain? I think people refuse to appreciate the candidness of this show. I like to imagine this show was professionally recorded like the Madison Square Garden shows, showing the opposite side of their live performance- the biggest band in the world playing a small stage, which is what the band always wanted to do anyway. It's the perfect "Moment in time" performance for this band. Performance vs setlist vs sound quality, this is bar none the best in my opinion.
  24. Southampton 73- Why it's the best bootleg

    I think a lot of people have confused the case I made for "best" (as in the best live representation of the band including audio quality) with personal favorites. This is by no means one of my personal favorites. I'm merely noting the enjoyment of listening to the biggest band in the world playing in an intimate setting with unparralled sound quality. I think that alone puts this in the top five of their must listen boots. Yes, subjectively, I could sit back and rip this show to shreds. But I tried to make the case objectively.
  25. Polishing The Boards

    I use Mixcraft. It's pretty simple to use and has an online forum which is useful if you have any questions. Edit: Not sure if they've changed it, but the version I use doesn't read flac files, which kinda sucks.
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