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  1. Southampton 73- Why it's the best bootleg

    I agree with most of the other posts in this thread. I like Southampton but it's nowhere near their best performance. It isn't poor either, but it's kind of more laidback if anything. As others have noted, the Stoke show from the week before is notably more energetic - that is a rather underrated performance actually. I will agree that Southampton may well be the best sounding Zeppelin boot out there, since it's taken from a multi-track recording. However, I think lots of shows manage to capture the atmosphere of a Zeppelin concert better, LTTE being the standout example. One thing that I do find Southampton interesting for is that it shows the band in a small, intimate venue, while at the height of their success. To make a comparison, it's like if U2 put out a live album of them playing the student union at Trinity College Dublin. The juxtaposition of hearing a world beating, super-heavyweight band in such a small environment at their commercial peak is completely fascinating. The laidback vibe helps in this regard, it's a very different sort of show to the US arenas. There are some good performances to Southampton - HMMT/CB especially - but I do value it more for its unusualness than anything else.
  2. What are the best live bands of all time? (apart from Zep)

    Iron Maiden
  3. The Black Sabbath Thread

    Good that there's a document of this tour. I saw the 31st Jan show at the O2 and out of the 9 times I've seen some version of Sabbath, that was one of the best. You just can't beat the Iommi/Butler wall of sound, and at that show they were taking it to new levels. The Master Of Reality material sounded like Killing Joke! Been trying to find a bootleg of the show. I can find ones for the other shows, but not that one...
  4. What show or live song are you listening to now?

    Playing some of the UK winter tour 1971 on Youtube. Newcastle is quite nice - a fairly loose and relaxed show for 1971, but it's in noticeably better sound quality than anything else I've heard from this tour. It's a shame that there isn't some better quality audio out there, because I'm listening to the Manchester show from the 24th now and I think it could well be one of the better shows of that entire year. However it sounds like it was recorded underwater.
  5. What live song do you skip or endure?

    Or blues medleys. Whichever they seem to put in there.
  6. What live song do you skip or endure?

    I really like IMTOD live. Just translated really well into the live show, and it's such a powerhouse of a song. I've heard complaints about the length of it regarding the studio version as well, but I disagree - I love the fact that it's over ten minutes long and just keeps repeating the same riffs over and over again. It's good music, so the more the merrier. Also the 'Oh My Jesus' part is my favourite bit of the song because after Plant does it a few times Page just comes straight back in with the riffage again..... My main choices for songs to skip are: 1) Moby Dick. Just no.* 2) Misty Mountain Hop. The worst song on IV, and it's taken me a long time to like it properly. So many better songs that can be played live. 3) D&C if it's just getting ridiculous and pushing over the 25 min mark, although I do sometimes play them, depends on my mood. 4) Noise Solo - can take or leave.... 5) Whole Lotta Love - I'm not that interested in hearing a load of 50s rock n roll medleys, mostly. I agree with the person who said that the main riff of the studio version never got reproduced fully satisfactorily live. However I will make an exception for the Copenhagen/Knebworth versions, which get rid of the theremin section and replace it with a riff jam including some incredible moments and keeping the momentum of the song going. That's my favourite version of the song, including the studio/BBC ones. 6) The Song Remains The Same. 50% of the time I skip this. Never been a huge fan of it - it's a good song but I just have so many others I prefer. *(I appreciate Bonham's skill, but my drum solo tolerance is very low in general. The only one I've witnessed that was actually good was a 5 minute one from Carl Palmer a few years ago at an ELP show, which was genuinely riveting to watch. But almost anyone else, I simply turn to the next track.)
  7. Rank the Zeppelin albums - favorite to least favorite.

    1. Physical Graffiti 2. IV 3. III 4. II 5. HotH 6. I 7. Presence 8. ITTOD Coda is odds and sods so I don't tend to rank that one. III and II switch round as and when I like it, and HotH moves up and down the list a lot - sometimes it's in my top 3, othertimes it isn't. I love the first album, but it's just improved on so much in subsequent records. Neither Presence or ITTOD are that much of a step down, but they're both weird. Presence is difficult to get into, and ITTOD feels like a collection of songs and interesting ideas, not so much a cohesive statement. PG and IV are always the top ones, though.
  8. Starting Bootleg Recommendations

    Also try the following shows on Youtube - some are in very good quality, others not so much. The bits I've heard from them are all great, though. Boston 26/01/1969 Fillmore West 27/04/1969 Schaefer 21/07/1969 Copenhagen 05/03/1971 Berkeley 14/09/1971 Newcastle, sometime late 1971 Offenbach, spring 1973 thereabouts LA, 27/06/1977 Zurich, about June 1980 Berlin, 1980 [last show, longest Stairway solo ever] Also definitely get the DVD and BBC sessions - both are godlike [esp. the DVD].
  9. Starting Bootleg Recommendations

    I'm somewhat new to bootlegs myself, but I'll give a mention to the best I've heard so far: Tokyo, 23/09/1971 -----> first night of Japan 71 tour and whole band just on it and wild, dramatic show, reasonable sound, and one of the best versions of Stairway ever. Southampton University, 22/01/1973 ------> Decent, but not the best show - still good, but band very loose and laidback. Interestingly low-key show for Zep at this point as I think it's in the student refectory. However the main selling point is that the recording quality is superb - easily the best sound of any Zep boot I've heard outside of radio broadcasts, and there are some surprises in the setlist such as HMMT and CB. Madison Square Garden, New York, 12/02/1975 -----> Check the date as I may be wrong on this, but this is one of the best 75 shows. I think it's referred to as 'Four Blocks In The Snow' after a comment Plant makes between songs. Great performances of Sick Again and Kashmir. Good soundboard recording. St Louis, 16/02/1975 -------> Really consistent and excellent show with a great Stairway and other stuff. Quality soundboard recording. Baton Rouge, 28/02/1975 --------> Same as above, but notable because the band seems to be playing in a slightly faster tempo than from the other shows at around this time - gives it a certain extra something. Great version of Sick Again. Earls Court, 24/05/1975 --------> Zeppelin at their most regal. This is available on DVD. Great versions of the PG material and Stairway. LA Forum, 21/06/1977 --------> the 'Listen To This, Eddie' show. The 1977 tour is erratic but the LA shows are brilliant and of a notably more energetic quality than most. This show is awesome, the band just come out of the gate firing on all cylinders and the intensity just doesn't let up. Brilliant, balls-to-the-wall versions of Sick Again, Achilles Last Stand, TSRTS, etc. etc. etc. Brilliant audience tape that really gets the vibe of the whole event. Bonham in supreme form. LA Forum, 22/06/1977 -------> Not as good an audience recording, but perhaps an even better show than the night before. The band are still manic but are a little more focused and it's magnificent. LA Forum, 23/06/1977 ------------> Noticeably more loose and 'funky' than the previous two nights. A completely different vibe but just as fascinating - very much in the groove, raunchy and downright sleazy in places. Interesting fuck up in the middle of Kashmir but the band recover very well and finish powerfully. Very good audience recording [the guy who did it recorded the 21/23/25 and 27 shows - all of these sound great]. LA Forum, 25/06/1977 -----------> Somewhat more of a regal performance than the previous three nights, still a great show. Acoustic set is wonderful. Stately version of Kashmir. Quite an interesting No Quarter too, even though I'm not a huge fan of the half an hour jam this song had stretched out into, it works well here. Knebworth, 04/08/1979 ----------> An iconic and very consistent show, with great versions of In The Evening, Nobody's Fault But Mine, Sick Again and Achilles Last Stand. My personal favourite version of Whole Lotta Love with a cool riff jam section.
  10. What show or live song are you listening to now?


    It's a shame that JP is probably not the kind of person who'd just put out an 'official bootleg' series, as Zep would be a great band for this. I've got a Lynyrd Skynyrd show from 1975 in Cardiff which was issued from the Wolfgang's Vault archives by one of the major labels [can't remember which one] as an 'official bootleg', no editing at all, just laid onto CD and sold at the store, and it's a really great show. I love it when bands do this, but JP is very perfectionist and I doubt he'd release anything in that way.
  12. Favorite/Best version of Since I've Been Loving You

    From what I've heard, Tokyo 23/09/71. Dramatic and powerful. However, I will have to say that SIBLY is one of the few Zep songs that I never thought improved upon the studio version in the live setting. Most of their songs do, but the studio version of SIBLY is just so powerful, well-paced and dramatic, and Plant nails the vocals in a way he never really seemed to do so in any of the live versions I've heard.
  13. Favorite opening song?

    Immigrant Song or Communication Breakdown for me, although it's hard to argue with the 1-2 of TSRTS/Sick Again.
  14. Underappreciated shows

    Not heard as many Zep shows as others here but I will say that the 1980 tour is underrated in general. With the 1977 tour there was a feeling that the 70s had been pushed as far as possible, and the 80 shows were of a completely different vibe - much more stripped down, but still powerful and epic. Leaner and more agile, maybe? Of course there are some flaws, but in general I really like the direction the band was pushing in on this tour and it was very much the start of a new page in the band that was sadly cut short. Someone here pointed out that the 80 tour has a sense of reaching into the past and the future at the same time and I'd have to agree [shorter sets and Train Kept A'Rollin' for the opener, but newer synths and ITTOD material and fresh ways of approaching the songs to offset this]. I also really like what they did with WLL at Knebworth - I personally enjoy the riff jam mid-section much more than the theremin freakout of the original, and a lot more than the 50s rock n roll medleys [just not that bothered about extending WLL like that in general really]. I will also say that the live standard of the band in 1971 was so high that a lot of shows from more out of the way places like Newcastle etc. come across really well, at least according to what I've heard on Youtube. Special mention to Tokyo 23/09/71 as well.
  15. What show or live song are you listening to now?

    LA 22/06/1977 Working my way through the LA shows - I've had Eddie for a while now but not delved beyond it. Given Badgeholders a good listen and the 25th as well, now I'm playing the 22nd and despite the lesser sound quality this is clearly one of the best nights. Got the 27th lined up, been listening to bits of that as well - it's not as intense a show but for some reason the vibe is appealing. The 26th is nowhere to be found on Youtube, otherwise I'd give that a go too.