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  1. +1 I get it why some people love '77 - the set list. That was a great and more diverse set list, and WS to Kashmir is pure genius. But the noise solo without the funky rhythm just doesn't work for me, and I for one don't like TSRTS as the opener (and I really don't like what they did with NQ with Nutcracker and the blues jam) I'm with you on the jams in '75, that's why I like that tour the best. They just leave these huge holes in every show and just go off creating. That's why '75 is also so easy to nitpick - some of the stuff in the jams is awful, and some of it is great, and all of it is genius, it's like Picasso lol. The "jam" songs: NQ, DAC, and the funk jam. Plus Jimmy approached every one of his solos from the Picasso angle too. Sadly he was often too tired (or wasted) by the final third of the show and so some Stairways and Black Dogs don't sound so great. OTHAFA and TUF are usually phenomenal though. Anyway, the result is a different show every night, more so than '73 or '77, which is why '75 is my favorite of the "late" tours (I can't listen to '80)
  2. +++++++ 1 Dude, I go away for a couple weeks and you've got three more nitpick reviews in already!! I love it. You're killing it! 2-12 to me was always kind of an overrated show. 2-13 and 2-14 are significantly more fun to listen to. 2-13-75 is one of my favorite shows that year, I absolutely love Jimmy's playing on it. THOUGH, I am not a guitar player, so... yeah. But, as an example, I really enjoy his bedroom jamming on TUF (and that doesn't sound wrong at all) 2-14 to my ears is better than 2-12 but not as good as 2-13. For example, I really like Jimmy's aforementioned jam in 2-13 TUF but 2-14 TUF does significantly less for me. Not being a guitar player I can't explain it though, haha. I wonder how you'd compare the two as a professional. Anyway, in 1975 I would LOVE for you to review 3-12 and 3-27. Everything else is a bonus... I'll read them all though. Need some '73 nitpick sessions too (Europe and USA please)... and 6-21-77... and 6-23-77...
  3. Decided that I won't be able to get through all of March '75 without burning out (and I don't want to, lol). So, that plan goes on hold. On my return trip this Sunday I played Seattle 3-21-75. Simply the crown jewel of the 1975 tour. This was my first time playing the soundboard and I was a little afraid that it would take away the mystique of the audience tape. Nah. It's just such an inspired show, nothing could ruin it including the occasional mistakes by Jimmy. Simply fantastic throughout and deservedly a legend. Among the highlights surely are the best NQ, the best SIBLY, the best D&C, and the best WLL/Crunge/theremin jam of the tour. The rest is great as well, and it all sounds fantastic. Jimmy may have individually had better nights on that tour (2-13-75, 3-12-75, 3-27-75) but this is easily up there. Now I almost have to take a break from 1975 because nothing else currently available in good sq comes close!
  4. Was going to play Dallas 3-4 and 3-5-75 on this here road trip, but ended up playing my '71 mix instead. Really digging '71 Zep right now! Did they ever play Tobacco Road in any show other than 9-23-71? Those might be my favorite 5 minutes of any Zep show NOT featuring No Quarter. Also, I've asked this before, but since no one answered: does anything else from the UK Nov-Dec '71 tour sound as good as Ipswich? Cheers
  5. Ft Worth for me. And it still doesn't sound as good as the '75 sbds (with the exception of 3-17-75 and its buried guitar).
  6. Been taking a break from '75, because there's the entire West Coast run coming up! (hey BonzoFan ) I am planning on playing the two '75 Dallas shows during a road trip this weekend though. Meanwhile, I've been working on my '71 comp (minus Orlando and Osaka which I always want in their entirety). Played quite a bit of both Forum shows, along with the Budokan shows and Ipswich. I think Ipswich is a great sounding show, by the early period standards anyway. Is there a better one (for sound quality) from the Nov-Dec '71 UK tour? In any case, it is a must for Gallows Pole alone, and WLL smokes - much better than either Forum version from earlier that year. Speaking of the Forum, I think that 8-21-75 is a fairly pedestrian performance overall - inferior to both the following night, 9-4-70 the year before, and 6-25-72. Between the two '71 Forum nights, 8-22-75 has a better Heartbreaker, and vastly superior WLL and Thank You (JPJ's organ solo SMOKES). It also sounds better that 8-21 for some reason (though the quality still isn't great). What do you guys think?
  7. Hey, so it seems they actually were intending to play the same number of shows in 1975 as they played in 1973 - 36. They ended up playing 35 because of Tampa being canceled, but it should have been 36. According to the Midrash, the light created on the first day of creation shone for 36 hours...
  8. Taking a break from '75 tour with Offenburg '73. As far as audience tapes go, this is up there with Millard I think. Could well be my favorite Zep show, period. Certainly so far my favorite SIBLY: Jimmy smokes, Bonzo throws in fills galore, JPJ is prominent in the mix, and Robert's vocals have recovered nicely by now -
  9. Thanks so much! I did wonder about the magically extended WLL since it would so be unlike Zep to do anything like that post Europe '73. Bummer about Bonzo jamming to jazz records in a hotel, that one bit did sound really cool. lol
  10. Wait, really? He talks about the West Coast shows from an eyewitness perspective (the LA and SD ones) and staying in the same hotel and Bonzo jamming to jazz records in the middle of the night and keeping him awake. Oh, and interviewing Robert (with photos). I thought it sounded a bit fan-boyish when I was reading it, but really? All completely made up? A separate question: so, this itinerary seems to be wrong on so many levels, then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_North_American_Tour_1975 No 2nd Pittsburgh show, no New Orleans, no Knoxville, no Austin. Any other errors there?
  11. I don't get the Greensboro '75 mentions on this thread. There is nothing there like the flubbed BD solo on 2-28-75 (later during the same tour, when Jimmy was in peak shape), or the disaster of Tempe ALS. It's actually pretty good, given that one of the guys plays with a hurt finger and another is still getting over a massive flu. Edit: played some of it on the way to work this morning, and found two minor mistakes - in IMTOD and Kashmir. The songs don't go off the rails completely but somebody briefly messes up, I think JPJ and Bonzo miss the start of Jimmy's second solo in IMTOD and I'm not sure what happens in Kashmir but it doesn't sound right at about 4.30 or so. So in addition to Jimmy's finger and Robert's flu they're having some trouble with the new songs. NQ smokes though.
  12. It sounds like the grand doesn't it? I'm wondering because usually (in later shows) there is a quick pause both before and after the grand, and Jimmy plays theremin as JPJ switches to the grand. Here, he hits the last "piano" note and immediately plays the opening notes of the NQ main theme...
  13. On to 2-28-75 (Baton Rouge, LA) The first thing that jumps out after not playing this one for a while is how pleasant the sbd mix is. It's just a great sounding board! Especially after the brickwalled experience that was 2-14-75. (I don't have St Louis 2-16-75 and Houston isn't out yet, is it?) The show finds the boys in good form and Robert's vocals are okay. Question: what is Jonesy playing during the piano solo and the guitar jam? It no longer sounds like the Fender Rhodes but it isn't the grand either because he doesn't change seats. He just segues directly from the Rhodes to this thing and then back again after the guitar jam's conclusion, no pause either time. It sounds very different from the Rhodes during the piano solo and the guitar jam, and for that reason is the first really different sounding NQ since the song's live debut back in '73 (again, I haven't heard St Louis or Houston, so I can't comment on what he used in those). Does anyone know? It's another excellent NQ, btw. That song just continues to flourish in '75 as the year progresses and they don't seem to run out of new ideas for it.
  14. Since they're now cutting Mary Lou from the upcoming reissue of HTWWW, I'd say chances are pretty slim that anything from Japan '71 will be released. For one, the setlist is too similar. For two, they're eliminating covers as it is right now, suggesting that for whatever reason Jimmy deems them problematic, and those WLL medleys have covers too. For that reason I don't see Bath either, let alone Europe '73. At least not yet. It actually makes sense that they go to '75-'79 for this one, especially in light of Jimmy's remarks about "something different". And since Earl's Court is already out there, Unless they have secret multi tracks of LA '77, my guess right now would be Knebworth. Similar to HTWWW, they can actually make a heck of a 3-disc by picking the best performances from both nights. Of course, LA '77 would be a pipe dream, because they'd be picking from 6 nights... but that presumes the multi tracks of all 6 nights exist. So, I am now rethinking my theory a little bit. This month they reissue early Zep for a new generation of listeners. That's HTWWW. There are many listeners out there who have never heard the old one, and this will be the only version that will be downloadable (think iTunes, etc). So this one will become canon. Then in the fall they release a late Zep show, to balance HTWWW, either LA '77 or most likely a Knebworth compilation. Then, if Jimmy wasn't kidding about the next 10 years, they will maybe release important individual shows culminating with a definitive edition (and remastering) of EC in 2025. There is simply no other interpretation for the "next 10 years" tease. Except that it won't be 10 years, but more like 7. All of the shows with WLL medleys in them will be shortened with most covers jettisoned, Boogie Chillen straight to the slow jam. Also, in the unfortunate event of one of the members' passing, that shouldn't interfere with the "10 year" plan. As long as Jimmy does the remastering and the editing for them now, then they just sit on a shelf (or, rather, a cloud) awaiting the planned release dates. At this point, sales wise, Jimmy and the band are doing this for their estates anyway. Or I could be totally wrong. And they go on a 10 year world tour. To show Elton who really is the boss.
  15. They could probably just overdub a different bass track (from another multi track). Ditto for the theremin?
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