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What Made You Un-Happy Today ?

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3 hours ago, Strider said:

 

I can't wait to see how Trump's lapdogs Hannity and Tucker spin this.

I don’t watch either of those state run media opinion talk shows. But as we can see there is already an undertow of acceptance of this new low of lows. People, like yourself, who have served and sacrificed are turning in their graves or having their stomachs turned...leaving the Russian-sympathizing treasonous scum doing what they do. Saying what’s right is wrong, what’s up is down. The scoreboard (still early in the indictment process) speaks for itself - 32 indictments, 5 guilty pleas.  Campaign manager sitting in jail. Just the tip of the ‘berg.

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1 hour ago, kipper said:

Strider you need to put down the reefer and turn down the volume on your Greatful Dead album, are you serious??  What about Obama sending a plane load of cash to the Iranians in the middle of the night? What about Hillary and her Toys R Us "reset button"?  Uh... Lyndon Johnson... never heard the name before?

Who cares if the Russians spied on us, isnt that therr job? Didn't Obama spy on Merkle? You are just butt hurt because Hillary lost because HALF of America hate her. Apperently a lot of democrats too. How is that Putin's fault? Hillary couldn't beat Obama. Hillary was hated when she was Bill's wife and it was her fault democrats lost control of congress when Bill Clinton was president because she couldn't shut her big mouth.

Putin is a thug and a good leader at the same time. He hasn't done any dirty tricks that Churchill or FDR never did. Putin is the leader of the nation with the 2nd most powerful nuke aresenal.  You don't just wag your finger at them and expect to make any progress.  When was the last time Russians flew airplanes into our buildings Strder?  Only people whining about what Trump did today are swamp dwellers. Democrat and Republican swam dwellers.

Thank you. Your idiocy is duly noted. You're more interested in being a partisan hack than an American. That is, if you were ever American to begin with. Methinks you are the former weslgarlic from the UK. Still bringing up HRC? She's irrelevant.

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5 hours ago, Strider said:

There have been many poor decisions made by American Presidents throughout history. Actions taken, legal and illegal, that have embarrassed the U.S. and had long-lasting repercussions.

But watching Trump lick the boot of Putin today has to rank as one of the worst displays by an American President in my lifetime. Today's Trump-Putin press conference was almost surreal in how thoroughly Trump is submissive to Putin. It was an outright joke...especially coming so soon after Trump's rude behaviour towards our NATO allies.

These years be remembered as low points in U.S. presidential history. It is up to Republicans and Democrats alike to stop bickering and reclaim their soul and integrity. This is not a partisan issue of left or right....it's an American issue. Our country is being led by a charlatan of historical imcompetence.

I can't wait to see how Trump's lapdogs Hannity and Tucker spin this.

 

1 hour ago, Walter said:

I don’t watch either of those state run media opinion talk shows. But as we can see there is already an undertow of acceptance of this new low of lows. People, like yourself, who have served and sacrificed are turning in their graves or having their stomachs turned...leaving the Russian-sympathizing treasonous scum doing what they do. Saying what’s right is wrong, what’s up is down. The scoreboard (still early in the indictment process) speaks for itself - 32 indictments, 5 guilty pleas.  Campaign manager sitting in jail. Just the tip of the ‘berg.

Thank you both.  You write better than I ever will and I greatly appreciate your expressing my thoughts about this. 

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1 hour ago, Strider said:

Thank you. Your idiocy is duly noted. You're more interested in being a partisan hack than an American. That is, if you were ever American to begin with. Methinks you are the former weslgarlic from the UK. Still bringing up HRC? She's irrelevant.

Strider I used to be a democrat. I voted for Obama. I used to think like a liberal because I thought it meant being a nice person.  Me thinks YOU are the one unwilling to open your eyes and learn something. YOU are the one being partisan.  Im not from the UK that is insane. I say more anti UK things here than anyone.

HRC has always been irrelevant, but it is  SHE is the one still bringing herself up. But I do thank her. I thank her for demonstrating to someone like me how stupid it was to follow along with a party that doesnt stand for anything they claim to stand for. The Democratic party of JFK, and Robert Kennedy doesnt exit anymore. It is now the party of BLM and Elizabeth warren. NUTS!!!

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On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 7:20 PM, Strider said:

Thank you. Your idiocy is duly noted. You're more interested in being a partisan hack than an American. That is, if you were ever American to begin with. Methinks you are the former weslgarlic from the UK. Still bringing up HRC? She's irrelevant.

Don't be so sure about HRC, Strider. For all we know, she may try another attempt. Seriously. I say that tongue-in-cheek. She has quite a bit of money to pay back given to her while running. She basically held the funds hostage as they were to be slowly dispersed back into the party after the "predicted" win. She is very relevant. Whether what I said is unfounded is neither here nor there. However, wouldn't you agree her influence is extremely relevant?

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On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 6:05 PM, kipper said:

 What about Obama sending a plane load of cash to the Iranians in the middle of the night? What about Hillary and her Toys R Us "reset button"?  Uh... Lyndon Johnson... never heard the name before?

You forgot one. "After my election, I will have more flexibility". "I will transmit this information to Vladimir".

At least we have transparency with this guy. Not a hot mic.

I'm not sure what I saw in a summit as being a bad thing. How well do you trust US intelligence? Are these the same people that told us that Iraq had WMDs before we went to war? Did we find the WMDs?

I guess what makes me unhappy is that my country cannot learn how to pull itself together to get along and put partisan politics aside.

Like you kipper, I have only been affiliated with one political party. The Democratic Party. It has gone so far extreme that anyone other than extreme as that is labeled as the other side. As an enemy. I apologize so much to the forum, to the members here involved, and to Sam. But can't anyone see, that we are not an enemy to one another regardless of political affiliation.

It's the system (the Deep State) that wants us divided. They want us fighting. Because if we are fighting amongst ourselves, THEY WIN.

That's my rant. And that's what makes me unhappy. Media is good at dividing us all. You people here, whether we agree or disagree, are brothers and sisters. 

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4 hours ago, apantherfrommd said:

You forgot one. "After my election, I will have more flexibility". "I will transmit this information to Vladimir".

At least we have transparency with this guy. Not a hot mic.

I'm not sure what I saw in a summit as being a bad thing. How well do you trust US intelligence? Are these the same people that told us that Iraq had WMDs before we went to war? Did we find the WMDs?

I guess what makes me unhappy is that my country cannot learn how to pull itself together to get along and put partisan politics aside.

Like you kipper, I have only been affiliated with one political party. The Democratic Party. It has gone so far extreme that anyone other than extreme as that is labeled as the other side. As an enemy. I apologize so much to the forum, to the members here involved, and to Sam. But can't anyone see, that we are not an enemy to one another regardless of political affiliation.

It's the system (the Deep State) that wants us divided. They want us fighting. Because if we are fighting amongst ourselves, THEY WIN.

That's my rant. And that's what makes me unhappy. Media is good at dividing us all. You people here, whether we agree or disagree, are brothers and sisters. 

I'm glad you see what I see Apanther.  I didn't know what deep state was until I saw how Hillary stole her party nomination from the will of the people on her side (Sanders), and then later how establishment republicans wanted to see their own candidate lose to Hillary. Crazy stuff!

 Isn't it weird how Reagan would be too liberal to be a Republican today, and JFK too conservative to be a Democrat today.

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Same old, same old.

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7 hours ago, Strider said:

 The fact that you hate America

My time and life is too precious and full to bother wasting time with trolls.

Maybe it's the only way you can get through your day. If you really are a first-responder, your job is stressful...I'll give you that. But I can't take what you say on this forum seriously...and I'm not alone.

So panther

Hi Strider. Aggression problems? I love my country and the people in it. You are proving my point. If people differ in relation to a belief does it have to necessitate an extreme ideology from someone else's. Does it necessitate name calling i.e. "troll". Is this grade school? These are the least of things as this is a forum.

There are people physically getting the snot beat out of them on the streets for these very disagreements. That's what I'm referring to mainly. Blood. Over the fact that someone they wanted to win didn't, and they can't make any concessions for anything the successor does. So they fight others. If you don't take that seriously then fine. I find it sad that people do this. You resort to belittling yourself with name-calling and stating that I hate America as a fact because... or I'm tag-teaming with... Just because your mentality is different doesn't make things so.

I do agree with you that intelligence can be trust-worthy. However, intelligence paints a picture of influence. For instance, who hasn't tried to influence or persuade our elections. The Chinese have as well, etc, etc. We have tried to sway others. Trusting intelligence should not be an absolute. They have been so wrong before and we have been warned of them by leaders past.

7 hours ago, Strider said:

A president takes an oath to protect and serve the U.S. Constitution and to defend the country. This was a clear case of a president derelict in his duty.

Then by your own words, take refuge in the fact that when this meddling occurred, and defense did not take place, that this president is no longer presiding over our great land. Have a kind day.

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Apanther, you are indeed, without a doubt, continuously trying to troll people in this forum by consistently posting random ass political opinions in order to reel in an argument. You're not the only one, but you're definitely one of the perps. Do you even post about anything else? I've never noticed.

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3 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said:

Apanther, you are indeed, without a doubt, continuously trying to troll people in this forum by consistently posting random ass political opinions in order to reel in an argument. You're not the only one, but you're definitely one of the perps. Do you even post about anything else? I've never noticed.

that is total horseshit. Apanther is a very nice and friendly guy and a real Led Zeppelin fan unlike many others here.  Besides, Strder is a big boy and makes plenty of  his own coments all the time when he feels like it. Apanther doesn't even respond to most of those. Then there is that other guy who lives down in the  low rent Florida swampland who claims to be LGBTQ friendly  but who makes homophobic comments when he "thinks" he is being clever and you havent called him out have you?

You are wrong.

 

 

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