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The Rest in Peace Thread

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On 12/2/2017 at 12:01 AM, IpMan said:

The man did not murder anyone, he picked up a gun he found which accidentally discharged, ricochet off of a wall, and struck Ms. Steinle in the back. That is not murder, that is involuntary manslaughter. Very big difference.

Ps. If the man was a white natural born American citizen would you still consider it murder? If that man was your brother would you want him convicted of murder?

Saggy,your as dumb as a rock,which is an insult to rocks,...

Garcia Zarate fired one shot from a .40-caliber SIG Sauer P239 handgun with a seven-cartridge magazine. ... The gun used by Garcia Zarate had been stolen in downtown San Francisco from a Bureau of Land Management (BLM) ranger's personal vehicle on June 27, 2015, according to the Bureau of Land Management.

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 Accidental discharge - Because of this possibility, most currently produced pistols are designed with a "drop-safety" or firing pin block, a mechanism inhibiting or isolating the firing pin, preventing accidental discharge if the firearm is dropped.

So,stolen gun,safety off,round in the breach.

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13 hours ago, Anjin-san said:

Saggy,your as dumb as a rock,which is an insult to rocks,...

Garcia Zarate fired one shot from a .40-caliber SIG Sauer P239 handgun with a seven-cartridge magazine. ... The gun used by Garcia Zarate had been stolen in downtown San Francisco from a Bureau of Land Management (BLM) ranger's personal vehicle on June 27, 2015, according to the Bureau of Land Management.

So,stolen gun,safety off,round in the breach.

Unfortunately, your tepid attempt at a line of evidence falls short. You have to prove the defendant stole the weapon, then prove intent. Second, the BLM officer could have stored it with a round in the pipe. The fact is you need solid proof, not speculation and the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense. You know, innocent until PROVEN guilty BEYOND a REASONABLE DOUBT.

I understand those are big words and reading comprehension is not your strong suit, but I have faith that one day you will extricate your head from your anus.

Good luck buddy.

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2 hours ago, IpMan said:

Unfortunately, your tepid attempt at a line of evidence falls short. You have to prove the defendant stole the weapon, then prove intent. Second, the BLM officer could have stored it with a round in the pipe. The fact is you need solid proof, not speculation and the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense. You know, innocent until PROVEN guilty BEYOND a REASONABLE DOUBT.

I understand those are big words and reading comprehension is not your strong suit, but I have faith that one day you will extricate your head from your anus.

Good luck buddy.

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2 hours ago, IpMan said:

Unfortunately, your tepid attempt at a line of evidence falls short. You have to prove the defendant stole the weapon, then prove intent. Second, the BLM officer could have stored it with a round in the pipe. The fact is you need solid proof, not speculation and the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense. You know, innocent until PROVEN guilty BEYOND a REASONABLE DOUBT.

I understand those are big words and reading comprehension is not your strong suit, but I have faith that one day you will extricate your head from your anus.

Good luck buddy.

I'm your Huckleberry. He confessed to finding the weapon on the boardwalk and attempting to shoot a sea animal. When his shot hit Kate instead he threw the weapon in the bay and attempted to flee on foot. So by his own admission we have a convicted felon discharging a firearm and thereby striking an innocent bystander. That's manslaughter, at a minimum, seven days a week.   

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7 hours ago, SteveAJones said:

I'm your Huckleberry. He confessed to finding the weapon on the boardwalk and attempting to shoot a sea animal. When his shot hit Kate instead he threw the weapon in the bay and attempted to flee on foot. So by his own admission we have a convicted felon discharging a firearm and thereby striking an innocent bystander. That's manslaughter, at a minimum, seven days a week.   

Yes, which is exactly what I said. I never claimed the scumbag was 100% innocent, I said there was not enough evidence to prove murder. I also said that per the US Constitution, an illegal alien is granted the exact same legal protections and standards as all American citizens. If people want to convict a man of murder simply because he is an illegal alien and a scumbag, that is against the law and morally wrong. Plus, if we do that, what do you think will happen to American citizens arrested abroad? 

"Oh, he is an AMERICAN, he must be guilty...50 years in prison for you AMERICAN!!!"

Somehow I don't think this whole isolationism during an era of globalism is a good idea. You don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. If a person is charged with murder due to the evidence pointing in that direction, than prosecute accordingly. However, if not, you must prosecute with what the evidence both shows and proves. The fact is the prosecution screwed up. She presented a case based solely on second degree murder, and then at the very end of the trial changed direction and tried to go for first degree murder, whereas the evidence only showed manslaughter. The fault here lay with the prosecutor. If the prosecutor was capable we would not be having this discussion and this idiot criminal would be in jail for 10+ years.

 

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5 hours ago, IpMan said:

The fault here lay with the prosecutor. If the prosecutor was capable we would not be having this discussion and this idiot criminal would be in jail for 10+ years.

 

He'll be back through the revolving door of deportation before we know it.

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RIP Pat DiNizio, lead singer of The Smithereens.  A great singer, guitar player and song writer.  Gone too soon at 62!

 

 

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