the chase Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I mean, them crooked vultures had no trouble headlining fests around Europe, played high profile gigs all over the place, i would imagine it would be the same for page/jones/and lil bonzo.......people saying that it wouldn't be a HUGE draw are out of whack. Page is one of the MOST LEGENDARY guitar players on the planet and when zeppelin announced the O2 show, it was the most demanded ticket in history, you mean to tell me a tour with page/jones/and lil bonzo playing both new music as well as stuff like kashmir, rock n roll, black dog, and stairway wouldn't sell out arenas worldwide? I honestly believe page should have just said screw it, i'm bringing this band on the road with a new singer, putting out a new record and mixing both the old zep songs and new songs into a set and gunna have a blast doing it. that to me is the saddest part, how hesitant he was, and i think that's why jonesy jumped ship and did TCV, it was an opportunity to get out there, put out some tunes and have fun in a rock band again. Page clearly wants that, so just DO IT. Don't underestimate Mr. Grohl. He is a huge draw. One of the most popular in rock today. Add JPJ and Josh Homme to the mix and you have very wide, diverse, automatic fan base. Plus the fact that TCV is an excellent album and they are amazing live.. word spread like wildfire. I agree anything with Jimmy Page John Paul Jones, Jason Bonham and Huey Lewis Steven Tyler or Miles Kennedy would be a big draw too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Seriously though, I wish they'd have given Huey Lewis a shot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKM5LpFU1Pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NealR2000 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Huey Lewis is/was an interesting character. He was very much a big part of the 80s MTV culture. I liked him because he was rock and roll in a time when there was a big shift towards eye-candy pop. He seems, however, to have become a bit of a joke figure among critics today. I don't buy that. Yes, his videos were campy, but in a time when the music scene was being dominated by Duran Duran, A Flock of Seaguls, Madonna, Phil Collins, and Michael Jackson, I was grateful for Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 ...he's STILL got it...they could have done this as the first encore...FUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Seriously though, I wish they'd have given Huey Lewis a shot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKM5LpFU1Pc A friend of mine was in a band that opened up for Huey Lewis and The News a couple of times and said he was the nicest guy in the world.. I never would have thought of Huey Lewis in a million years, wouldn't even have been on the radar. But the more I think about it, it isn't as far fetched as I first thought. Definitely not a Robert Plant clone.. which would be good. I'd much rather see them go with a complete unknown though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I don't think anyone has said a Page-Jones-Jason tour wouldn't have considerable demand. It certainly would have. You absolutely cannot compare that line-up to the demand that the O2 show had. That WAS Led Zeppelin, and it featured Robert Plant. I think Page dropped it because promotor quotes paled in comparison to what the full Zeppelin reunion tour promised. I think he also dropped it because Robert kept dangling that 1% possiblity in the form of mixed messages. It's only in the last year or so that Robert seems to have slammed the door completely shut. I agree with Steve regarding Page's live appeal without Robert. The Black Crowes venture was probably his biggest draw, made possible by a lot of Crowes fans who lined up with Jimmy/Zep fans. Jimmy is a frustrated man. Zeppelin is his band, but her just can't get his band together. Everything you wrote above is probably true. And yet....thanks to Led Zeppelin's success, Jimmy Page never has to work again. Shouldn't this have freed him from financial considerations when it came to performing and recording? Would he really need to sell out arenas in order to be an active musician at this stage of his career? I would think a man of his wealth would be free to pursue less commercial; more esoteric musical projects. However, I know very little about the music industry's inner workings so perhaps I'm missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I feel that Plant has decided that anything with Page is automatically geared toward the epic in terms of scale. I also feel like his musical experimentation is as much about dealing with varying levels of intimacy with an audience as it is trying out varying styles of music. But Page seems to only find real satisfaction in playing with energy on the epic scale. I would love to see Page scale it back. A Ronnie Scott's style gig or something more informal like Elvis's 68 comeback would be so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 A friend of mine was in a band that opened up for Huey Lewis and The News a couple of times and said he was the nicest guy in the world.. I never would have thought of Huey Lewis in a million years, wouldn't even have been on the radar. But the more I think about it, it isn't as far fetched as I first thought. Definitely not a Robert Plant clone.. which would be good. I'd much rather see them go with a complete unknown though.. Huey Lewis was my suggestion...I don't think anyone else had thought of him either. I thought he'd be a great fit because for one thing he is a formidable, established singer many people are familiar with and can therefore more easily relate to/identify with and accept. The other thing is he is very adept at handling the press and media, which would have taken some of the pressure off of Jimmy to fulfill those duties. Thirdly, I think he'd get on well with Jimmy, JPJ & Jason personally and professionally. He's got a back catalog that could be incorporated into the setlist to further dispel that they were the second coming of Led Zeppelin or Led Zeppelin with a fill in guy on vocals. Finally, the ladies like him a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesamay2003 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 How about jay buchanan from rival sons...now that guy has some pipes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigomoonbeam Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 How about jay buchanan from rival sons...now that guy has some pipes!! I second that and he wipes the floor with Miles Kennedy (and he's great). Cheers, Indi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesamay2003 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I second that and he wipes the floor with Miles Kennedy (and he's great). Cheers, Indi Maybe Jimmy reads the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Even though he has been out of the biz for some time, I always thought that Billy Squire had a voice that would complement the Zeppelin songs, and which had the versatility to work with the vocal range needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZoSo Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Lou Gramm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1inspector Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Even though he has been out of the biz for some time, I always thought that Billy Squire had a voice that would complement the Zeppelin songs, and which had the versatility to work with the vocal range needed. Squire albums deserve another listen eitherway...."ALOT" of great songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1inspector Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Lou Gramm great voice! wonder how much of what he sung back then were written by Lou? Jimmy needs somone who can really put down some good lyrics & meledies (forgive my spelling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 On 9/20/2014 at 0:54 AM, Strider said: I wonder if this is the material that John Davis is working on that was referred to in the other thread? Jimmy Page on Howard Stern? When pigs fly. Get real. Besides the gutter-minded sex and sleaze factor, Howard is one of those guys who always moans about Zeppelin stealing all their songs. There's no way Jimmy would give him the time of day. I just dug up a bit from March 25, 2003. Howard and Robin were going over Who is a Genius or Not? It's a whole 32 minute debate and listed like 200 people who is or not Robin asked about Jimmy Page and Howard said - No , Robin said Howard is crazy Neil Young , Genius Frank Sinatra - No Elvis - No The Who - No Leslie West - No Eric Clapton - No Eddie Van Hallen - Genius Sting - No James Taylor - No Ozzy - No Paul Simon- Genius John Lennon & Paul - Genius Clapton - No Keith Richards & Mick Jagger - Genius Metallica - Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, TheGreatOne said: I just dug up a bit from March 25, 2003. Howard and Robin were going over Who is a Genius or Not? It's a whole 32 minute debate and listed like 200 people who is or not Robin asked about Jimmy Page and Howard said - No , Robin said Howard is crazy Neil Young , Genius Frank Sinatra - No Elvis - No The Who - No Leslie West - No Eric Clapton - No Eddie Van Hallen - Genius Sting - No James Taylor - No Ozzy - No Paul Simon- Genius John Lennon & Paul - Genius Clapton - No Keith Richards & Mick Jagger - Genius Metallica - Genius The day I depend on Howard Stern for musical advice is the day I get my sports news from Architectural Digest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 He's the biggest flip flopper and exaggerates all the time. I have not listened to him in so long but remember him Idolizing Leslie and was on show bunch of times and when he lost his leg Howard was real brutal and was really a turn-off. Howard said Pete Townshend is not a genius because he can't /didnt learn to hide his porno online..hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywalnutz Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Jimmy still has "it", this was evident from 94-98. He Played Zeppelin songs better than he had in over a decade. He was also an extremely good session guitarist on Roberts Clarksdale Album. He was also a great guitarist for the Black Crowes. He even pulled "it" off in amazing fashion for the Ahmet Tribute. I'm sure he rehearsed like never before to play music HE wrote decades earlier. Jason Bonham played drums JPJ was a part of it ,and Robert sang Stairway. A very nice ending. It's over. Judging from his disappointing solo efforts his brain is organically damaged and the days of coming up with anything new and brilliant are over. I've said this so many times , Presence was the last time he brought anything great to the studio and who knows how long he had those riffs. Germany 1973 ? Jimmy had more taken then he ever got back. With Live Aid fresh in my mind I say, H. is no joke. It took the better part of a decade after to become 3/4 the guitarist he was in 1975. A protracted dance with devil dust is not glamorous just as being the guest of a Rebel Warlord in Mogadishu is not glamorous. It's a terrifying ordeal and you come out worse for the wear and never get all that was taken.....never. Besides he is 74 (?) what could we expect from an addict that age (you are never a former addict). It's sad, the man was a genius and is so desperately trying to force something that is better left alone. Jimmy was Led Zeppelin it's all he knows and all he can do. If all these great riffs existed we would have heard them. He cleaned the bottom of the barrel long time go. I picked up a Robert Plant show from London 2014. Why on earth would he go backwards? The original material is great and the Zep reworks are extremely interesting. The band is red hot and he's having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimmywalnutz said: He was also an extremely good session guitarist on Roberts Clarksdale Album. Never knew the Page/Plant album "Walking into Clarksdale" was a Robert Plant solo album with Jimmy as a session player, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8rat Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 11 hours ago, Strider said: The day I depend on Howard Stern for musical advice is the day I get my sports news from Architectural Digest. but he's a judge on a talent show. surely he is an educated musician that is so smart he can judge true talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywalnutz Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 6 hours ago, reswati said: Never knew the Page/Plant album "Walking into Clarksdale" was a Robert Plant solo album with Jimmy as a session player, lol. I'm being sarcastic of course. No knock on the album but I hear the producer was supposedly something special. Apparently it was who Robert wanted, I won't pretend to know how it went down but I get the feeling Jimmy would have agreed to having me produce the album if it meant getting Robert closer to a Zep Reunion. Jimmy played very well on the album , he was buried in the mix at times and at no point do any of his parts jump out to the point where you can say " that's one of the best guitarists to ever live." Meantime Robert's fingerprints are all over. I think Clarksdale would be more appreciated if it was totally overhauled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 44 minutes ago, Jimmywalnutz said: I'm being sarcastic of course. No knock on the album but I hear the producer was supposedly something special. Apparently it was who Robert wanted, I won't pretend to know how it went down but I get the feeling Jimmy would have agreed to having me produce the album if it meant getting Robert closer to a Zep Reunion. Jimmy played very well on the album , he was buried in the mix at times and at no point do any of his parts jump out to the point where you can say " that's one of the best guitarists to ever live." Meantime Robert's fingerprints are all over. I think Clarksdale would be more appreciated if it was totally overhauled. The guy who produced it certainly did betters stuff with other artists. My personal opinion is also that it just doesn't sound "right enough". The live performances from that tour outdid the sound and feel of the record fair and square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimmywalnutz said: No knock on the album but I hear the producer was supposedly something special. Apparently it was who Robert wanted In June 1997 a short demo studio session with Steve Albini was booked at RAK Studios in London to see how they would ALL get along (it progressed well)…first song recorded was 'Burning Up'. Albini was in demand at the time and as such I think the record label had more to do with his initial involvement than Robert Plant. "They were perfectly comfortable for me to work with, and I got along with them and I liked them as people..." -- Steve Albini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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