bluecongo Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Nutrocker said: uldn't work 100% of course, but somebody should try syncing the audio from the 24 July Copenhagen gig to the 4 August Knebworth video Believe it or not, I did this with Black Dog, and it kept kicks ass like you wouldn't believe. I may post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I think this one is pretty good: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrocker Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 18 hours ago, bluecongo said: Believe it or not, I did this with Black Dog, and it kept kicks ass like you wouldn't believe. I may post ! Man, you should do the entire fucking show if you had the time...yer matrixing work is the real shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecongo Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Here ya go ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, bluecongo said: Here ya go ! That is indeed very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, bluecongo said: Here ya go ! Holy shit that's great!!! The Copenhagen Black dog is one of the best versions IMO. Did you remaster the sound too? As it sounds even better than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, bluecongo said: Here ya go ! That just kicked my ass!!! More please...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryder1978 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 THAT is all kinds of awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 This thread inspired me to listen to the second night version of Kashmir. I actually listened to the great AUD recording as it was close at hand and that version is rather grand too IMHO. I had the first night as one of, if not the, definitive version of that song, but the second night runs it close. Esp Bonzo in the closing couple of minutes,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecongo Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I just realized that TYG is my work too. That YouTube user has a few of my videos up they're about 12 years old I'd say Here's Sick Again 75 style audio is from my 2.12.75 matrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 12 hours ago, johnlennon696 said: Holy shit that's great!!! The Copenhagen Black dog is one of the best versions IMO. Did you remaster the sound too? As it sounds even better than normal. Without a doubt. The second Copenhagen warm up is my favourite late period Zeppelin concert. I hope Page is sitting on a soundboard. Surely they must have recorded it to see how they sounded ahead of Knebworth. I never read much about these warm ups, would be great to hear more from the band about what they thought about that second warm-up show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_K Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/22/2017 at 8:18 AM, blindwillie127 said: I think this one is pretty good: So this is the 7/24 recording - which is very good - with the 8/4 video? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Not only did they play much better at Copenhagen I thought they looked better as well, Planty wearing black at an evening outdoor event wasn't a great idea. just to finish off the Freddie Bannister / Peter Grant shenanigans. FB states that by the end of the first week of July only 115000 tickets had been sold and he wanted to cancel the idea of a second show, which at that time still hadn't been announced but PG was insistent it went ahead. FB states he's confident the attendance of the first show was 104000 as the arena size was 36 acres but 4 acres were taken up by staging and catering etc, leaving 32 acres of which he calculates 24 acres of 4000 people and 8 acres around the perimeter of 1000 per acre. he also claims that he was forced by Richard Cole to sign away his rights to the recording of the event for 5 pence, but later that document became invalid as the amount was so low it was obvious that he'd had to sign under duress. I wonder what the band themselves thought of the much less attended second show after PG had told them the demand was there for two sold out shows. I doubt we'll ever know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, jsj said: Not only did they play much better at Copenhagen I thought they looked better as well, Planty wearing black at an evening outdoor event wasn't a great idea. just to finish off the Freddie Bannister / Peter Grant shenanigans. FB states that by the end of the first week of July only 115000 tickets had been sold and he wanted to cancel the idea of a second show, which at that time still hadn't been announced but PG was insistent it went ahead. FB states he's confident the attendance of the first show was 104000 as the arena size was 36 acres but 4 acres were taken up by staging and catering etc, leaving 32 acres of which he calculates 24 acres of 4000 people and 8 acres around the perimeter of 1000 per acre. he also claims that he was forced by Richard Cole to sign away his rights to the recording of the event for 5 pence, but later that document became invalid as the amount was so low it was obvious that he'd had to sign under duress. I wonder what the band themselves thought of the much less attended second show after PG had told them the demand was there for two sold out shows. I doubt we'll ever know Five pence - FFS! That was interesting, thanks for sharing. The more you read about Knebworth the more you get the sense that everything wasn't quite right - both on and off the stage. I remembering reading that Planty didn't really want to do Knebworth and he was sort of cajoled into it. Anyway, it is what it is. At the very least we've got a visual document of the band's later career, including one of the best versions of Kashmir they did. If they hadn't done Knebworth, post 75 all we would have on video would be the Kingdom show, which is super dark and only used a couple(?) of cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 There is still some good shit from Knebworth TBH. Over The Hills is strong, so is No Quarter and Ten Years Gone IMO. Both from the first night. Plus of course the songs that were on the Zep DVD. On the Zep DVD at the start of Achilles; Where did they take that shot of the crowd from where they show that firework type display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindwillie127 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, johnlennon696 said: There is still some good shit from Knebworth TBH. Over The Hills is strong, so is No Quarter and Ten Years Gone IMO. For sure. Jimmy's solo on OTHAFA was fucking epic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozoso73 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Is any of this info in the Dave Lewis book about K79?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Hermit Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 2:06 PM, Boleskinner said: Five pence - FFS! That was interesting, thanks for sharing. The more you read about Knebworth the more you get the sense that everything wasn't quite right - both on and off the stage. Cocaine's a helluva drug. On 8/24/2017 at 3:50 PM, johnlennon696 said: On the Zep DVD at the start of Achilles; Where did they take that shot of the crowd from where they show that firework type display? Another poster on this thread has said it may have been from 'Kashmir' - specifically at the "...all will be revealed..." line - but I'm not so sure, the band were using flashbombs at the same moment of 'Achilles...' during the '77 tour, were they not? Were any forum members at the Knebworth shows, were flashbombs used during 'Achilles...' at that point in the song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
76229 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 51 minutes ago, The Old Hermit said: Were any forum members at the Knebworth shows, were flashbombs used during 'Achilles...' at that point in the song? Blimey hermit, you're asking a lot of 38 year old memories!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, The Old Hermit said: Cocaine's a helluva drug. Another poster on this thread has said it may have been from 'Kashmir' - specifically at the "...all will be revealed..." line - but I'm not so sure, the band were using flashbombs at the same moment of 'Achilles...' during the '77 tour, were they not? Were any forum members at the Knebworth shows, were flashbombs used during 'Achilles...' at that point in the song? Yeah i have read before it may have been during Kashmir, but i haven't seen the second night on video myself. Only listened to the audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Hermit Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, johnlennon696 said: Yeah i have read before it may have been during Kashmir, but i haven't seen the second night on video myself. Only listened to the audio. Okay, just checked the 11/8/79 video and it's clear that the shot of the flashbombs going off during 'Achilles...' on DVD are from that performance; Jimmy's position moving past the drum riser matches and you can still see the smoke from said pyrotechnics... so it's definitely from 'Achilles...' and from the August 11th show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlennon696 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, The Old Hermit said: Okay, just checked the 11/8/79 video and it's clear that the shot of the flashbombs going off during 'Achilles...' on DVD are from that performance; Jimmy's position moving past the drum riser matches and you can still see the smoke from said pyrotechnics... so it's definitely from 'Achilles...' and from the August 11th show. Ah cool. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I think 10 Copenhagen gigs would have been better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On 30/08/2017 at 3:28 AM, IpMan said: I think 10 Copenhagen gigs would have been better Yep me too. Or at least, 10 warm up gigs somewhere low key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On the DVD am I right to think they used the 4th version of Kashmir. I checked the Garden Tapes and it suggests so. Yet most rate the 11th version as better, or even much better. What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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