Zufo Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Led Zeppelin Oakland 07/24/77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniemouse Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 What a great photograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZ77 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Hi Cruz!!! I haven't seen you around for a very long time. I hope you can share more photos!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klape Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Great picture ! I wonder if it's the usual jump that they use to do during Rock and roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zufo Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share Posted July 10, 2018 12 hours ago, LZ77 said: Hi Cruz!!! I haven't seen you around for a very long time. I hope you can share more photos!! This is the way "cool" looks performing onstage - ⚡️👁⚡️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepfan2001 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 How do you know that these old photos are authentic? These days fake photos are way to frequent, way too easy to make. For example, a few years back, some folks that hate me spread fake photos of me doing things I would never do to people who knew me, personally and professionally. Those fakes were done so well nobody could tell they were fake. (the perils of the digital age) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zufo Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I know that MY photographs "are real" - I took them! - of course people do "copy" images - stealing is more like it - it happened to me - read about how a photograph of mine became the cover of a bootleg LP in trivia - I no longer sell them for that very reason - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Zufo said: I know that MY photographs "are real" - I took them! - of course people do "copy" images - stealing is more like it - it happened to me - read about how a photograph of mine became the cover of a bootleg LP in trivia - I no longer sell them for that very reason - Oh c'mon Zufo, those are obviously pictures of Page & Plant doing things they would never do. FAKE NEWS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strombringer101 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Led Zeppelin by 1977 became what Bonzo feared most. {people coming to a concert just to see the band, not so much being interested in the music. Led Zeppelin still was a huge draw, though other bands took the mantle of hard rock. How could you enjoy sitting 300 level in the King Dome and enjoy the show. Echo in the dome was horrible, and the band wasn't playing at their best in majority of their shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 2 hours ago, strombringer101 said: Led Zeppelin by 1977 became what Bonzo feared most. {people coming to a concert just to see the band, not so much being interested in the music. Led Zeppelin still was a huge draw, though other bands took the mantle of hard rock. How could you enjoy sitting 300 level in the King Dome and enjoy the show. Echo in the dome was horrible, and the band wasn't playing at their best in majority of their shows. As you said, the echo was horrible and most of the kids were stoned off their asses. Zep could have farted into their mic's for 3 hours and the crowd would have still went ape shit and thought it the best gig ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confounded_bridge Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 On 7/12/2018 at 8:11 AM, strombringer101 said: Led Zeppelin by 1977 became what Bonzo feared most. {people coming to a concert just to see the band, not so much being interested in the music. Led Zeppelin still was a huge draw, though other bands took the mantle of hard rock. How could you enjoy sitting 300 level in the King Dome and enjoy the show. Echo in the dome was horrible, and the band wasn't playing at their best in majority of their shows. I have noticed that in many of your posts, you badly criticize 1977. Have you ever heard Cleveland 4/28, LA, Birmingham, Pontiac and NY? These are great concerts, most of them better than 1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confounded_bridge Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 On 7/12/2018 at 10:44 AM, IpMan said: As you said, the echo was horrible and most of the kids were stoned off their asses. Zep could have farted into their mic's for 3 hours and the crowd would have still went ape shit and thought it the best gig ever. The sound quality has nothing to do with the level of the performance. The Pontiac 77 show is brilliant (the audience recording doesn't lie) A soundboard of this show is in my top 10 list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniemouse Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Can I ask a couple of questions? How easy are soundboard recordings of concerts to get and how many do you have. I am fascinated that posters here on the forum can name specific shows recorded in an era when fans were not supposed to be able to access these recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confounded_bridge Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 22 hours ago, anniemouse said: Can I ask a couple of questions? How easy are soundboard recordings of concerts to get and how many do you have. I am fascinated that posters here on the forum can name specific shows recorded in an era when fans were not supposed to be able to access these recordings. The 1980 and many 1973 soundboard recordings were stolen from Jimmy's house. They are circulating since the eighties and nineties. The 1975 and 1977 soundboards are a different story. They probably come from a former showco employee and they started circulating since the 2000's when the bootleg company empress valley started their "soundboard revolution" campaign. They release one recording each year. All the soundboard recordings circulate and you can find them for free on youtube or on websites like "black beauty" or "long live led zeppelin." We can only suppose how many shows were recorded. For 1977, many fans in the zeppelin community (me included) believe that all the second and third leg of the tour was recorded. From LA 1977, the only thing that circulates is a soundboard fragment of Jimmy's noise solo (June 23) I personally believe that the Pontiac Silverdome concert was recorded for historic purpose. In my opinion, all the remaining soundboards will surface during the next years. It is a matter of time. Remember the rumors about the 9/28/1971 and 9/29/1971 shows in Japan. Many people were saying that the tapes do not exist. But they recently starded circulating, one song after the other. Soon, we gonna get the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anniemouse Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Thank you for the information. As a fairly new poster I was always slightly thrown by terms like soundboard which I assumed had little to do with bootlegs?. Always pleased to learn more on a subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 hours ago, confounded_bridge said: The 1980 and many 1973 soundboard recordings were stolen from Jimmy's house. They are circulating since the eighties and nineties. The 1975 and 1977 soundboards are a different story. They probably come from a former showco employee and they started circulating since the 2000's when the bootleg company empress valley started their "soundboard revolution" campaign. They release one recording each year. All the soundboard recordings circulate and you can find them for free on youtube or on websites like "black beauty" or "long live led zeppelin." We can only suppose how many shows were recorded. For 1977, many fans in the zeppelin community (me included) believe that all the second and third leg of the tour was recorded. From LA 1977, the only thing that circulates is a soundboard fragment of Jimmy's noise solo (June 23) I personally believe that the Pontiac Silverdome concert was recorded for historic purpose. In my opinion, all the remaining soundboards will surface during the next years. It is a matter of time. Remember the rumors about the 9/28/1971 and 9/29/1971 shows in Japan. Many people were saying that the tapes do not exist. But they recently starded circulating, one song after the other. Soon, we gonna get the whole thing. All of the 75-77 shows were recorded, the real question is, which of these are in possession by the "soundboard revolution" source. Almost certainly, it's not all of them. In particular I wouldn't hold my breath for the Pontiac show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strombringer101 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 In response to you inquiry of me trashing the 77'. Robert Plant and Jone's both said on video or articles that the 1977 tour was a sham. Plant stated they "were show boating most of the tour" Jones said he hated playing in huge stadiums because of the lost connection with the fans. Jimmy Page did state that "The demand was so huge we had no choice but to play stadiums" I have The Destroyer, Dallas 1975, Berlin 1980, San Fransisco 1969* killer show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confounded_bridge Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 So, you trash 77 because Page, Jones and Plant said "we were show boating most shows." This is true for some shows (less than half) but definitely not "most shows." To my ears, many 77 shows are brilliant, and way better than 75. Definitely NOT "a shame." Actually, only 8 shows out of 40 are bad. And i have to remind you that Page's memory is not what you think. He once said: "I don't remember most of the 77 tour." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 so two of the band say the tour wasn't up to par, or "showboating". I cant see how any one can argue that Page wasn't up to par for the tour. he may have had some good nights but his average was low and he spent too much time on stage alone, as did Bonham. ive never seen any of the band say anything detrimental about any of the tours between 68 - 73, and probably up to 75. its all a matter of opinion of course but I don't see any argument for 77 tour playing being better than any year up to 73. I prefer 75 to 77 but that's mostly for the set lists. I don't like the 77 shows because for 1 to 1.5 out of 3.5 hours there's only one of the band of the stage at a time. and they played many enormo-domes which generally aren't good for bands trying to create "feel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confounded_bridge Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 4:25 AM, JohnOsbourne said: All of the 75-77 shows were recorded, the real question is, which of these are in possession by the "soundboard revolution" source. Almost certainly, it's not all of them. In particular I wouldn't hold my breath for the Pontiac show. That would be awesome, but how do we know that April 1977 was recorded? No tapes have surfaced yet. (Cleveland 4/27 is another story, it was recorded "by accident". It wasn't recorded by showco employees, but someone else brought his home tape deck and he plugged it in.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 10 hours ago, confounded_bridge said: That would be awesome, but how do we know that April 1977 was recorded? No tapes have surfaced yet. (Cleveland 4/27 is another story, it was recorded "by accident". It wasn't recorded by showco employees, but someone else brought his home tape deck and he plugged it in.) I thought it was generally accepted that the band recorded all of their shows, at least starting in 1970 or so, so they could review performances, etc. Which is why it's also generally accepted that these "soundboard revolution" tapes originate with someone connected to the band somehow, either through theft or leak. Which is not to say individual or particular soundboards couldn't get out by other means, like the Destroyer show you mention, but those are the exceptions that prove the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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