Mountain Hopper Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If The song houses of the holy which ended up later on PG, took the place of the crunge on the album houses of the holy, would it have made it their best album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc1973 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 yeah, we've had this discussion before, both about this song, and regarding putting all songs from PG on the albums for which they were recorded. I personally hate The Crunge, and love the song HOTH, so yes, it makes it a better album to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake of Shadows Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I'm quite content with the way it is. But then, I like The Crunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarmy Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 yeah, we've had this discussion before, both about this song, and regarding putting all songs from PG on the albums for which they were recorded. I personally hate The Crunge, and love the song HOTH, so yes, it makes it a better album to me. here's what I don't understand, whenever Led Zeppelin was asked why they didn't release singles, they would tell us that the music is really apart of "what they were in to at the time" (or something like that). But if there are so many songs that didn't make it until 1,2,3, or 4 albums later, then the reasoning as to why they didn't like singles doesn't add up to me. If the songs were so much apart of those time periods then why hold on to them? or why insert them into another time period? so what do you think is going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonefreelee Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If The song houses of the holy which ended up later on PG, took the place of the crunge on the album houses of the holy, would it have made it their best album? Quite possibly, but PG would have been lessened..even wtih the inclusion of the Crunge..which i dont dislike, it's just that it always seemed more like filler to me than a good solid track... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgio Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Quite possibly, but PG would have been lessened..even wtih the inclusion of the Crunge..which i dont dislike, it's just that it always seemed more like filler to me than a good solid track... the crunge is a pure zep jam...i think houses of the holy - if it had been included - would need to have been inserted before OTHAFA. it couldn't be back to back with Dancing Days - too similar in the tempo...then again, i'm not sure what the lp divisions were. my old cassette had the crunge as the last track of side 1. my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solar Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If I could hear no other song for the rest of my life other than The Crunge, I'd be happy all the day long. I've never felt that way about HOTH, even though it's one of my top 10 or so Zep songs. There's just something joyous and uplifting about The Crunge, to me. And I think the fact that it's such a contrasting style on an album with so many contrasting styles makes it work. I've never been partial to D'Yer Mak'er, personally. That's what I'd replace if anything. But then HOTH wouldn't have that same flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattmc1973 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Instrumentally The Crunge is great, but Robert's vocals are just annoying on that song. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr E Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I think it would be better if they just had no singing on The Crunge it could have been a really cool funky little instrumental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyrus Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I would rather replace D'Yer Mak'er, it's not a bad song, just doesn't really seem to fit into HOTH as an album. although it would make less sense on PG... I think D'Yer Mak'er would have made a perfect B side, a la Hey Hey What Can I Do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Action Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I'm quite content with the way it is. But then, I like The Crunge. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 ...love the Crunge.....I bet you're right and they left Houses of the Holy off because it sounds quite a bit like Dancing Days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGG Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I like the Crunge, and besides...it's far more interesting when bands put a title song on a later unrelated album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzfan715 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 If they had put HOTH on HOTH it would have been too typical of a thing for them to do. I think all the albums are great how they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing Floor Blues Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Same here. and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickZepp Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I love the Crunge. It's a great dig on James Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquamarine Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Thing about The Crunge is that in addition to being fun, it's making a very witty musical comment about song structure in a particular genre of music, the sort of humorous comment you rarely hear. Yet another example of how Zeppelin were smarter and more sophisticated musically than those who think they're the Fathers of Heavy Metal recognize. So, yeah--leave it where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagfarmer Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Great song, love JPJ's bass line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickZepp Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 The Crunge may be the best song off of that album. I love everything about it. It's a great bass line. Great synth sound. Plant's vocals are awesome too. Nice little story and a tip of the had to James Brown. I absolutely love the song. It fit perfectly with the album. Contrasts it much better than HOTH song would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambolic Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 yeah, we've had this discussion before, both about this song, and regarding putting all songs from PG on the albums for which they were recorded. I personally hate The Crunge, and love the song HOTH, so yes, it makes it a better album to me. I gotta agree, I do not like the Crunge song, but at that time, it would have been okay to put HOTH on the album with the same name. I think it was a '70's thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissandra Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I've always liked 'The Crunge'. "Houses Of the Holy" is one album I pretty much can't stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Dear Crunge Fans/Unfans I promise this will be my last word on tributes and what they can do for you or what they are intended for. The Crunge is just simply a song dedicated to the hardest working man in show business Roy Harper (sorry) lol; I meant James Brown. John Bonham loved the funk beats of the groove bands and that song has kick your ass, grab you by the balls, stops and starts ala a Brown Masterpiece. I am another drummer who always loved those tunes and I promise I won't even try change any one's mind. And when I looked at a few of the previous view points about "Houses" I thought Zeppelin must be from Mars and a few definitely from Venus. There are so many good songs on that album that if anyone ever wanted to say they were a songwriter I think four hours a day of intense listening just might change a few minds and sharpen their skills. Peace and Love In All Ways Franco Where's that confounded Bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Stickman Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I think the HOTH album could benefit from a better tracklisting. TSRTS, RS and OTHAFA have a unity in chords and chord progression that should be left in tact. I'd say the weak tracks on the album are the Crunge, D'yer Mak'er and Dancing Days. You may disagree. But DM is a real love it or hate it song. Plant was very fond of it. Bonzo wasn't. JPJ didn't think it worked. Plant really pushed it onto the album. I think it would have been a better idea to release DM as a single and use the Crunge as a b-side. Now, replace the Crunge with Dancing Days. Put HOTH on as the first song on side B followed by ... The Rover. This track was recorded on the same Stargroves/HOTH sessions and it's always been a mystery to me why they didn't include it on the HOTH album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_72 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I love the Crunge. It's a great dig on James Brown. Exactly. At first I thought it was strange not to have the song HOTH on the album title of the same name, but it is just right for me the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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