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  1. On a long flight home today, the whole 7/24/79 concert in Copenhagen. A very underrated show!
  2. Steve, In looking at the dates of the middle leg of the '77 tour, am wondering if Zep/Peter Grant had tried to schedule more concert dates, and wasn't able to book any other dates? For example, Zep go from June 3 in Tampa to June 7 in New York, and then from June 14 in New York to June 19 in San Diego. This sticks out somewhat when you look at the tour dates in general in '77, and outside of the breaks between the 2nd and 3rd legs, you don't see nearly as many off days on the 1st and 3rd legs as you do on the 2nd leg, as noted above. I also recall Zep scheduling Toronto in the original itinerary, so maybe between Tampa and New York, or the last date in New York and San Diego, they tried to schedule that date (and Dayton, Ohio was another original '77 itinerary date, maybe they were trying to get that in there?). I do note the families coming over for Disneyworld visit, so that may have contributed too (which may have been after the North Carolina date on Bonzo's birthday or immediately after Tampa).
  3. Hi Steve, Between the June 1973 San Francisco Kezar Stadium Gig, and the first Day on the Green Oakland gig in July 1977, did Zep play any gigs in the US that had an opening act? I'm thinking no, and if that is correct, it's interesting that both Bay Area shows bookend all these live US gigs between with possibly no opening acts (probably Bill Graham liking to make Bay Area concerts all day "events", and convincing Zep to appear as part of an all day concert event). In fact, thinking about it, had Robert not had his accident in Greece, the late Summer US 1975 stadium tour would have started in Oakland, with both shows being Day on the Green events (seem to recall that Joe Walsh was one of the supporting acts), but I can't recall if any of the other scheduled stadium shows for that tour were scheduled to have an opening act/festival atmosphere (Tempe, Arizona, Kansas City, Denver, Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California, etc...).
  4. "After we lost John Bonham, we were told - and I know this sounds quite disgusting - that we were contractually obligated to produce another album. My idea was to do a chronological live album. It made sense - you could tell by looking at the bootleg market. But Plant didn't want to do it. And so the donkey work on the Coda album began. I'm not going to go in the studios raking through the shelves of tape, then have someone go 'I don't want that out'." -- Jimmy Page quote from Rolling Stone Magazine, Nov 25, 1993 Steve, always been a bit fuzzy on the details of two of the songs off Coda: Walter's Walk - we know the structure of the song was created during Houses recording session, with no lyrics at all I assume since Robert recorded them post Zep when getting Coda together. How much of the song was complete when Jimmy found this in the vaults to add to Coda? Did Jonesy and Bonzo have their parts laid down already, or did Jimmy bring in Jonesy and Jason to finish his Dad's work for the Coda sessions? And how about Jimmy himself? Did he need to re-record/record overdubs during Coda sessions versus what he originally recorded during the Houses session? Never quite grasped how much of Walter's Walk was completed in 1972 during the Houses sessions. Bonzo's Montreaux - what's the story behind Bonzo being in Switzerland in September 1976 and recording this? I believe I read Jimmy recorded electronic treatments (assuming Coda sessions? Or, was Jimmy with Bonzo in Switzerland?). What lead Bonzo (and Jimmy if he did go) to Montreaux that September of '76? Since no festival, I am assuming for tax reasons, but did he plan on recording a drum solo on that trip? Not much revealed about why he went, and why he recorded this when he did. Thanks!
  5. Wow Sagittarius, I remember the lady, but I blew off the Mission to party at Bandersnatch before the show (May 11, 1988 if I remember correctly, at Tempe Activities Center - same venue as the Firm show I saw in March 1985 and of course, the legendary Zep July '77 show. Side note: I miss concerts being held there, always liked the sound in TAC). I'll never forget the buildup to that first Zep song we would hear Robert sing for the first time that tour: In The Evening, 4th song in, and it sounded great! Don't know if you went to the Tucson show in November that year, but it was excellent as well, and I remember Robert adding a lot more Zep tunes on this leg of the tour, including Immigrant Song and a combo of In the Light and NFBM. Great memories!!!
  6. Brussels is 32 years gone tonight...ok, gonna stop now!
  7. Oops, meant tomorrow night! Am listening to Brussels 1980 (35 years gone tonight!!!), so I am off by a day. Looking forward to your next entry!
  8. Steve, Seeing the great, many new photos that Sam recently posted from the '75 tour aboard the Starship, got me thinking about how Zep got around in the States during their tours prior to getting the Starship on the '73 tour. Did they fly commercial, or ever lease a private jet, without all the customziation of the Starship, then later Ceasars Chariot for '77? I know that's a vague question covering the beginning of time (1969 - looks like they did drive some, per Richard Cole's account in STH...i.e. driving in Pacific Northwest through a snow storm), but I guess I would narrow down the question to the one US Tour in 1971 and the one US Tour in 1972, when they were bigger, had more visibility by then than the 4 tours of '69, and certainly more death threats which may have given them more apprehension to fly commercial the whole time during each tour? I would guess that on the '71 and '72 US Tours, they may have leased a private jet or two, for many legs of each tour...or did they fly commercial? Any particular airlines were they partial to if they did fly commercial during those tours?
  9. June 23, 1977...see attached link. Cool write up by woman who made this for Jimmy, and he wore it for her during Whole Lotta Love/ Rock N Roll encore! http://www.ledzeppel...13#comment-2813
  10. Hi Strider, Thanks for the latest entry, great read! I'm jumping way ahead here, but after your opportunity to see Zep in LA during this legendary, fabulous run of June 1977 shows, did you think about traveling in July, when you were out of school, to see them in nearby Tempe (July 20) or Oakland (July 23, 24)? What an unfortunate difference that would have made, if you did end up going to see any of those July shows, since they were well below the LA Forum bar they set back in June 1977!!!
  11. Great read as usual Strider, and your last post answered what I am thinking at this point: how does 4 nights in March turn to 6 nights in June? Well, it looks like from your post above, that a 5th night was about to be announced. Surely that would have sold out quickly, so it would be interesting to speculate whether or not Zep could have put in a 6th show in March at the Forum, especially as you point out, the Forum was full of sporting events between the Kings and Lakers.
  12. Steve, Wondering about the 4th US Tour of 1969, which started in October, when LZ2 was finally released, along with their Olympic Studio recording sessions in mid to late November, following their last three Winterland San Francisco dates in early November, which ended the 4th US tour. 4th US Tour - why was only Heartbreaker and WIAWSNB added to the set from LZ2, especially after they tested Whole Lotta Love during the 2nd US tour? Seems interesting that they played Killing Floor as well (morphed into The Lemon Song) during the first two tours of the US, but didn't come back to that in that 4th tour. I don't count Moby Dick, as that was an extension of Pat's Delight. It looks like they still had supporting acts, perhaps their shows were only 1.5 hours or less, and they didn't want to take away from the longer Zep1 pieces (D&C, HMMT, WS)? Or maybe they didn't feel as confident in performing the new material, as they literally composed and recorded the songs in various places while on the road, and didn't have a chance to rehearse them after the 3rd US tour ended? I find it interesting that they did expand and change the set greatly though, in two months time, with the '70 UK tour. Olympic Studios recording session November 1969: know an electric version of Bron Y Aur Stomp was composed, but where there others that were recorded, and ended up on LZ3 (or even ideas that appeared on later albums)? Also, how long were they in the studio that November?
  13. Great read! I'm curious Audrey's thoughts of the 3rd leg of that tour: Seattle, Tempe, Oakland. Lots of momentum lost from the great LA shows that ended the 2nd leg three weeks earlier, and by all accounts of what we have bootleg-wise (including Seattle DVD), they weren't very good shows (although the people who attended the shows thought they were good). And, specific to Tempe, did she think that show was as bad as claimed?
  14. Steve, I'm attaching this previous exchange, in case there is some relationship to my question below, since we know Achilles Last Stand was written before the events that would dictate the band recording Presence. I read that between the 1st and 2nd legs of the '75 tour, Robert and Jimmy went to the Caribbean, while Jonesy and Bonzo went home. Given that there were about 12 days off between the end of the first leg in St. Louis, and the start of the 2nd leg in Houston, I wonder if Jimmy and Robert brought guitars and jammed a little, working on a song ideas, in between getting some sun? I'm sure Richard Cole joined them (maybe even a roadie or two), and wonder if Jimmy and Robert loosely recorded ideas on tape (which possibly could have contributed to what would later develop into songs for Presence). As we know, Jimmy and Robert are the only two credited writers on every song on Presence (except for Royal Orleans). Just wondering if the Caribbean was a starting point for some song ideas.
  15. Been really inspired lately to listen to the 1980 concerts after reading Dave Lewis's book, Feather in the Wind - Over Europe 1980. Right now listening to the Frankfort concert from June 30. Really strong show! Amazing to read that Zep hadn't performed Money since Seattle 1972! And Robert leading the band into Frankfurt Special, in the middle of Whole Lotta Love, he sounds so good...reminds me of him leading the band into Rip It Up by Little Richard, towards the end of In My Time Of Dying, on the 4th night of the LA run of shows in June 1977!
  16. Steve, Three part question regarding the Presence album: 1. When Physical Graffiti was recorded over two sessions in late 1973 and early 1974, did they come up with any songs during that time that would be later developed and appear on Presence? It would seem not, since they used leftover material from earlier albums to make PG a double album. 2. Fast forward to 1975, following Earl's Court, Jimmy and Robert reportedly went to Morocco (early June), and reportedly wrote Achilles Last Stand. Did they come up with any other song ideas while in Morocco that would appear on Presence? 3. Finally, post Robert's accident, and convalescing in Malibu, is it safe to say they wrote the rest of Presence in Malibu (and the studio they rehearsed at in Hollywood), or did they come up with any songs on the spot while recording Presence in Munich? I know they recorded the entire album in Munich in 18 days, so they may have had the entire album written going into the studio in Munich. I believe you covered in an earlier mystery that no leftover material from Presence would appear on In Through the Out Door. Thanks!
  17. Steve, Great series of articles, and what is eye opening for me has now become a bit of a mystery question: how often or what frequency did the band practice at anyone one of the band member's homes? These articles mention the band rehearsing at Jonesy's house (although the article says early 80's, it would either be early 1980 or the article is erroneous)...would they ever rehearse at Pagey's, Percey or Bonzo's house at all during the Zep years?
  18. I'm typing this a day late, but was listening to 6/25/77 again yesterday (34 Years Gone), and am still blown away by that show. Awesome IMTOD, along with Robert belting out 2 minutes of Little Richard Rip It Up...powerful. Communication Breakdown as the encore (only time in '77). Achilles, No Quarter...what a show!!! Vastly underrated on the LA run of shows!!!
  19. Hats off To Strider! Enjoyed all 3 stories! Look forward to reading your account of the June 21, 1977 concert in the next week or so, as we head towards the 34th anniversary of that LA Forum show!
  20. Steve, My CD jacket for the 4th album says that all songs were recorded in either Headley Grange or Island Studios in 1971, with no month/day mention. For some reason, I thought they came into those initial recording sessions in early Dec '70, with material ready to record. I was thinking they even recorded in December. Any idea of the 4th album timeline of what was created and ready to record first, of the 8 album selections? Thanks!
  21. Do you remember if it was the photo of him smiling with a sunset in the background right as the band started The Rain Song? I remember that photo vividly but cant remember if Jason said that was taken just prior to his father's passing. I was at the NYC show and sometimes it was difficult to hear him when he was speaking, also didnt help that i had seats al the way in the back. Anyway, Im just curious. I appreciate any info on this. Thanks. Actually, it was a short video of John. Seemed like it was taken outside, underneath some sort of animal shelter canopy (like covered horse stables). John was smiling, made a funny face or two. Think it ran for about 10-15 seconds. It came right after the opening trio of Rock and Roll/Celebration Day/Black Dog, when Jason first spoke to the audience, and shared his first set of video memories with his introduction of the evening and dedication of the show to his Dad. There were definitely still shots as well in the first set of photos and videos, ranging from John as a young boy to this video clip of John one week before he passed. Jason said that the video was taken the week before he passed as well. I think the actual video of Jason's introduction at one of the early shows was posted in the Jason Bonham show reviews thread in this Forum...I remember seeing it.
  22. Yes, I attended Jason Bonham's Led Zep Experience last November, and early in the show, he showed a short video of John, and Jason said the video was taken exactly one week before he passed. He did have his full beard in the video (which he had shaved off right before the Munich show in July). Also, thought I read the family went to South of France in August 1980, so I'm sure there are private photos and videos of that trip as well.
  23. Thank you Sam and Steve! And, in a small sense, to your point about possibly scheduling these shows in April, it sort of answers another mini mystery: why didn't Zep play New York during their Spring 5th Tour of the the States in 1970? Perhaps MSG wasn't available during the March-April dates, so while on that 5th tour, they might have booked the special Garden date for 2 shows in June (until Bath came up). Would have been interesting to speculate that if Bath never occured, would the 6th US tour been moved up to June? I also thought I read Zep were offered a couple of dates in Boston and the Yale Bowl, but turned them down to perform Bath (which Peter felt was the right move for the Band)!
  24. Steve, I don't believe this one's been asked in this thread before: during Zeps 6th US Tour, in the summer of 1970, many tour dates were rescheduled, due to Jonesy's Dad's ill health in early August (and Jonesy flying back to be with him, which lead to the first week of shows being cancelled and/or rescheduled). Then when his Dad passed later in the month, during the Cleveland date (which resulted in that show starting earlier in the day, with Jonesy flying out after the main set, while an unnamed girl played bass with the rest of Zep during the encores), and subsequently the Milwaukee date being moved to the last day of the month, the rescheduled itinerary created a lot of back and forth flying across the States: Milwaukee on 8/31, then to the West Coast (includes famous Blueberry Hill LA Forum show September 4), then off to Hawaii for a date September 6, then back to Boston for a rescheduled date on September 9. Okay, here's the mystery question: in everything I've read, had most of the tour dates not been rescheduled, and things went as planned, their New York City Madison Square Garden debuts (two shows on September 19), were still scheduled two weeks after the last US tour date in Hawaii on September 6. Why was the New York date scheduled separately, two weeks after what should have been the last date in Hawaii, on September 6? Was MSG not available during their East Coast swing in mid August (when they played Connecticut and Virginia)? Or why not schedule MSG around the rescheduled Boston date September 9? I show they had the Melody Maker awards to attend in London on September 16, so you'd think after all that flying, that they would have tried to make New York on their way back from Hawaii, stoppping to play in New York, before going back to England. It just seems strange that Zep would schedule New York two weeks after their last date in Hawaii, fly home across the Pond, attend Melody Maker, then fly back and forth across the pond just play those two MSG dates on the same day! Did they do some final mixes on Zep 3 in New York, to go with that MSG date?
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