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  1. As my list shows, I do dig the '75 versions. There are many great ones. My top 10 would probably be 9 from '75 and the original version from TSRTS.
  2. For 3-27-75, I love how it seems like the jam is coming to a climax (around the 21 minute mark on my recording) and then it keeps going in a very tight but loose groove.
  3. Yes, this is hard. I have 17 live versions in iTunes marked 5 stars. 5-24-75. For me, this one will never be topped. 3-27-75 2-12-75 Original TSRTS 3-3-75
  4. Definitely a positive development. I Cannes't wait to see it.
  5. Yes, I definitely ascribe it to how personal and painful it still is. I hope I didn't imply that they should have done something regardless. I was nearly 9 in September of 1980 and didn't know.
  6. It's wonderful. I'm glad I have a copy and I sure waited a long time (pre-order in February 2018, receive 8 months later). But...What I would have liked is more context, more stories, and that means words. The back of the book has 16 pages of "annotations" from Jimmy, Robert and John Paul sharing comments about photos in the book, comments recorded while the book was in the works. The book would have been much improved if these quotes were in the body of the book next to the photos. And to be clear, I don't mean a comment for every photo of course...no need for something like "That's us on stage again. My hair is still long." In this age when people take photos of their coffee, I don't know if a picture says a thousand words anymore, so the actual words are still very much needed.And while 16 pages of comments is somewhat substantial, the first five years of the band's career, up to the release of "Houses", gets half the coverage, so from 1973 to now (admittedly with little to share after 1980) doesn't get as much attention. The 1980 Tour Over Europe passes without comment and six pages of photos. The 1975 Earls Court gigs, admittedly more important in the band's career, gets 8 pages. The 1973 U.S. tour gets 32 pages! I think a little more balance would have been better.Another improvement would have been if the three survivors had told us more about, for example, recording the songs we all love, or why they chose symbols for the fourth album, or what they loved about performing live and their favorite gigs. Like, how George Harrison's comment about a lack of ballads in the group's catalog inspired"The Rain Song." Or did the band really see a black dog going around Headley Grange and decided it was a good enough name for a song? And, really surprising, there aren't any comments about Bonzo's passing. Maybe that's too personal, but it seems a strange omission.
  7. No band can indefinitely sustain greatness. Looking back, we can easily (and subjectively) say this tour was better than that tour...Jimmy was better Europe '73 than USA '77. Plant was awesome in '72 but lost his voice in '75. But without doubt, we all would have gladly plunked down our cash for any ticket we could find and loved every minute of it. I do prefer '75 and earlier, but I can still find enjoyment from many '77 shows and even '80 has a number of gems. I'll never turn down a chance to hear more live Zeppelin. Why? There is undeniable magic in Led Zeppelin. I have a handful of Page/Plant shows that I hardly ever listen to because it's just not the same. In contrast, the 02 reunion show, for me, DOES have that magic. I had the miraculous opportunity to see David Gilmour in 2015 at the first Royal Albert Hall show. I would have much rather seen him in 2006, with a better set list and stronger voice. But I won't regret a second of the show I did see. The '77 tour was over the top indeed. Cutting back the show to maybe 2.5 hours might have been wise, but...the boys wanted to deliver I guess. I agree that the '77 versions of No Quarter were too peppy/jazzy. And too long (30 minutes). It's a sinister song, and the moodiness of that was largely lost in '77, unfortunately. I don't think there's one bum version in '75. The 1973 versions were fine, too, but I like them a bit longer ('75). Dropping Moby Dick might have been wise, too. I disagree on SIBLY. For me, right up to Berlin, it's a great, authentic moment and I would even say the '77 versions are best. As for more tracks from Presence, not sure what to say. Aside from Achilles and Nobody's Fault, they must have felt they weren't suited for live performance.
  8. Thanks! If clarification is needed, I should have said mundane performances....sluggish. Uninspired. Was 6-23 one where they got lost in Kashmir? It can be hypnotic. But the same (sluggish) can't be said of Achilles. Always a highlight.
  9. Fair question. I know some find the '75 setlist somewhat boring, but I don't. I enjoy a '77 show as much as the next fan, but there are niggles: setlist is a bit bloated, the pace can be sluggish (some performances of Kashmir are downright pedestrian), and we all know about Jimmy's less than precise playing on that tour. Probably the deciding factor for me is that '75 soundboards uniformly sound better (at least to me) than '77 soundboards, and I have wondered about that. Different system in '77? I'll take whatever it is.
  10. 1975 (preferably) or 1977, bring it on! Always ready to add a tasty soundboard to the collection.
  11. Now that I have the set, finally...this box set is from the BBC...it's copyright 2016 BBC, plus Atlantic Recording Company. Maybe that has something to do with it.
  12. Always skip: Trampled Underfoot Celebration Day Hot Dog Moby Dick (but I will listen to the banter, generally) '77 noise solo Endure: Rock and Roll The sluggish renditions of Kashmir (some here and there from '77)
  13. I get your point...but I would rather listen to the complete show as released in '07 than the partial show originally released in '76.
  14. That's how I see it, too. It was finally done right (as right as it could be) in 2007.
  15. I've been enjoying the DTS version of HTWWW this week, which prompts this question: If JP is doing a super deluxe of the BBC Sessions, dare we hope for a revisit to HTWWW with the Long Beach AND LA Forum shows in their entirety? Would be very groovy...but it's probably wishful thinking...
  16. Now that I finally have all 9 SDBS, I would not say the companion discs are "rubbish" but I would say most of it is underwhelming. ITTOD just arrived today and the companion audio is, for my ears, nearly a waste of time. Aside from "In the Evening" and maybe "Carouselambra," I doubt I'll listen to it again. But the good news is that all the others are better, IMHO. It would be helpful to know what Page had to choose from. I am generally not a big fan of outtakes. Something like "Pod" is an obvious gem, but if a rough mix is only slightly different from what was released, what's the point? I love the lengthy, funky jamming the band did early on "Trampled Underfoot" (the track I have is 19:10). Maybe something like that is riskier than a so-called rough mix, but it would be a lot more fun!
  17. First album: 23581 II: 11982 III: 22623 Fourth: 9110 HOTH: 10508 PG: 9386 Presence: 12889 ITTOD: 1954 Coda: 596
  18. Well: 1-11-69 3-16-69 8-31-69 1-9-70 3-7-70 10-2-72 10-4-72 1-22-73 3-16-73 5-13-73 5-18-73 5-19-75 5-26-73 5-31-73 7-17-73 2-14-75 2-16-75 2-28-75 3-4-75 3-5-75 3-14-75 3-17-75 3-24-75 5-25-75 (Upgraded a few in the last month )
  19. So many great versions to choose from. Although I am partial to the '75 tour, there are great versions from '77 (including "Eddie," ListenToThis). Although, I also think there are some real stinkers from '77 that just feel sluggish and boring. I think the 8-4 Knebworth version is better than the 8-11. And...I think there are good versions from '80, when they didn't get lost. I love the "double shot" Bonzo adds to breaks (is that the right term?) in the post-'75 versions. As for O2: I would be tempted to put it in the top 3 or 4 simply because they nailed it entirely. I was left speechless the first time I saw it. Percy, even in a different register, put all the drama and soul into it that the song deserves. The dynamics are breathtaking. I tend to be the type who does want to have a favorite for the live standbys. For Kashmir, it might be 5-25-75. I should "research" this.
  20. The 5-24-75 version from Earl's Court will always be my favorite. I think the inclusion of Woodstock was perfected this night, very dark and moody (love the "back to the garden" right when the bow section starts), and I love Page's solitary noodling just before the Woodstock section. Phenomenal. I also enjoy: 6-2-73 San Francisco 2-12-75 NYC 3-11-75 Long Beach 3-19-75 Vancouver 3-27-75 L.A. (probably my 2nd favorite) Those are all the performances I rate with 5 stars. There are 22 more with 4 stars. As you can see, I'm partial to '75.
  21. I've just acquired Jupiter and Saturn (Seattle '77). Apparently it's a true soundboard (rather than from video) and it does have a more pure sound. Alas, still get Robert's cracking voice.
  22. As yesterday was the 34th anniversary of the "Listen to This Eddie" show, I would like suggestions on the best version of this recording...seeing how it's been remastered more often than Dark Side of the Moon. I have heard the version included in the "Week for Badgeholders" is not up to snuff.
  23. SIBLY is one of the few songs that was consistently great, tour after tour. I like 6-21-77 2-14-75 (a rare '75 performance) 6-29-80 and of course the TSRTS version
  24. I vote for the Europe '73 medleys. All of it works well, but the "I Can't Quit You" and "Lemon Song" sections are money.
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