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For me, his range and power was best between 1970 and 1972, although I like his voice over the entirety of Zeppelin's career (although it was pretty damn rough on the 1975 US tour)
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The same could be said for Who fans...there seems to be a weird rivalry between those who only like the Who and those who only like Zeppelin
(personally, I'm a massive fan of the Who, Zeppelin, AND the Stones so it's all good to me
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For me, the best two shows of this tour are the Kezar Stadium show from 6/2/73 and the Mobile, AL show from 5/13/73...both are just stunning.
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I just finally got around to reading and reviewing When Giants Walked the Earth...for all of its faults, I still think it's the best overall bio on the band.
http://rnrchemist.blogspot.com/2014/06/book-review-when-giants-walked-earth.html
The only bad part were the "imagined" bits in italics he peppered the book with. Otherwise, I thought it was quite good.
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Wow, it's been a LONG time since I've posted here (~3-4 years!). I'm guessing this is the right forum to post this in, but I've been doing freelance book reviews of music-related books on my site over the past year and I thought I'd share one I did on a Jimmy Page bio a while back:
http://rnrchemist.blogspot.com/2013/12/book-review-jimmy-page-magus-musician.html
Has anyone else here read this? And if so, what did you think?
I will be reading and reviewing Mick Wall's LZ bio in the coming weeks which I'm looking forward to...I'll share that here once it's ready. Cheers!
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Pretty cool, hadn't seen many of those!
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So I haven't been up to date on the bootleg front lately but I just checked UU and saw that apparently, an entire video source of the May 25th (and a new 24th video as well) show has come up in the last few years? And supposedly, the quality of it is awesome as well.
Has anyone seen or own it?
I have 'em both...crackin' vids!
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I honestly do not know if Jimmy would have been able to handle this tour. If Bonham hadn't had died I don't know if Page would have got off the smack before it was too late... I mean just look at him in pictures from the '77 and '80 tours. He looks like he has just been freed from Auschwitz.
He did look horrid...also there seemed to be no *joy* onstage...contrast the Seattle '77 vid with one of the Earls Court vids or one from before...HUGE difference...
Also, Dazed live was good but by '75 it was not a "jam" anymore, but a tightly structured piece played note-for-note night in and night out...it was retired just in time...
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IIRC the story behind Winston's version is brilliant: he by fluke stumbled across 1st generation tapes from the dude who sold Millard his blanks- apparently the guy and Mike the Mike worked out a deal where MTM got free blank tapes in exchange for copies of his shows. Good deal, eh?
But I think the fact that Page himself used "TSRTS" from this recording on the DVD says it all...wonder how many different versions Jimmy has?
From what I undertstand Winston has 'retired' but maybe Page and Shirley could bring him out of retirement..."Here, Andy, here's the archives- go nuts!"
Winston's remasters are all top-notch, but his Eddie is his finest hour...
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I should have said STUDIO albums...the newer releases (BBC, HTWWW) certainly do...
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Agreed, I don't have any LZ CDs that credit WLL w/Willie Dixon...
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Seattle in particular sounds pretty bad compared to other sbds recordings though from that tour (bad playing aside).
That's cos the "SBD" is actually sourced from the vid...
However, coincidentally I am listening to the 7/17/77 show and enjoying it...my copy if "Year of the Dragon" by EV...
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Very true...still, I find myself more and more convinced that the whole thing was an elaborate joke on Freezer's part. I do know this, though: just based on some of the decidedly 'heated' discussions over at the torrent site, Freezer has given out copies of Baton Rouge '77 -or at least his "Zeppelin Sampler" disc that has select cuts from all four of his Zeppelin recordings- to at least a couple of people, two or three years back. People who are friends of his, who had his back when things were getting heavy, that kind of thing. And these people aren't coughing up, either (probably because Freezer told them explicitly NOT to). That's the way it goes...
Like I've said before, I like Freezer, and can understand where he's coming from, vis-a-vis his contempt for the bootleggers, but at the same time, his constant gloating about all his uncirculating recordings "that WE'LL never hear!" doesn't help matters much, either. Overall I'd say we'd've been much better off if we didn't know there was a guy out there hoarding two undoubtedly kick ass Zeppelin recordings...and, unfortunately, hoarded I think they will remain. C'est La Vie, I suppose.
Agreed...I've corresponded with him a bunch and he seems like a good bloke but to keep telling us we're never gonna hear the BR '77 show is kind of aggravating at this point...
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9/29/71...I have the version called "You Were There in Spirits"...SBD-quality sound and fucking PHENOMENAL performance...
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Yeah that's been making the rounds for a while. It's rather shocking the two best and biggest rock bands of the late 1960s/early 1970s didn't play more than 1 gig together EVER...
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Well I don't think the "Guitar Solo" was very inspired either.
It certainly wasn't!
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But D&C had been done to death by the end of '75...most of the '75 versions weren't very inspired...the song peaked in '72 and '73...
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Yes great show!
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Nevermind, I just found out his real name at TTD.
Can you post a link?
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No SBD...the best your likely to do are one of the Chicago '75 shows or maybe the Cleveland show. Crap sound but it sounded great in concert...they gave up on it too soon, IMO...
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Depends. Some AUD tapes (like the Millard tapes) have the balance of the SBDs but they "breathe" and have superb atmosphere...same with a tape like 6/25/72 LA or 4/28/77, for example. But unless an AUD is like that, I take SBDs every time...my (many) years of listening to crap quality boots is over...
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6/25/72 LA Forum
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No, unfortunately there is not...
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Longbeach 3/12/75. Not the best sounding recording, but the playing is unbelievable!
No Quarter & OTHAFA are just devestating, my current favorite live versions.
Yeah that is a fucking great show! I also love the Baton Rouge show 2/28/75...
Robert Plants Voice Through The Zeppelin Years 1969-1980
in Led Zep Live
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Oh, you're definitely right that in '75 his voice was killed by flu on the US tour and the inability to have time off to rest it...because he was much stronger at Earl's Court a few months later. Plus, he had secretly had throat surgery in 1974 (hence the raspiness of the newer tunes on PG compared to the older ones where he has the old range and power). I agree with you, he got stronger again after '75. Certainly more consistent.