Jump to content

mrlowry

Members
  • Posts

    46
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Recent Profile Visitors

The recent visitors block is disabled and is not being shown to other users.

  1. Amazing performance, Never knew it existed. Thank you for sharing.
  2. The point that I was making is that it is my understanding that there were no multi-track recordings made of the Japanese tour made because Jimmy's then manager didn't allow it. If that is correct then there are no multi-track tapes in existence from which to pull live recordings to include on any future set. Maybe some soundboard tapes were made but that obviously wouldn't be the same quality level.
  3. I remember reading somewhere Coverdale said that Page's manager at the time refused to allow any official recording of the Coverdale/Page tour of Japan.
  4. Glad to be of help. I find it crazy that 3 out of the 4 members of Led Zeppelin had singles before the band.
  5. I think it's part jealousy and part attention seeking. Every time he bashes someone else it makes headlines and gets him and by extension The Who big publicity.
  6. I will buy the package day one. It is my favorite post-Zeppelin Jimmy Page project.
  7. John Paul Jones had another solo song called "Baja" but I don't think it meets your description as well but worth checking out as a possibility if it isn't "A Foggy Day In Vietnam."
  8. John Paul Jones had a pre-Led Zeppelin single called "A Foggy Day In Vietnam." Have you heard that? Is that it possibly? It kind of meets your description.
  9. Wow, That's a lot of great information. So do you feel that the slightly muddy or murky sound on many Led Zeppelin recordings is a creative choice and not a limitation of the recording technology?
  10. Is this the first master that had too much dynamic range for the turntables of the day and caused some needles to jump out of the groove?
  11. Some of this is correct but it's too much of a simplification. Firstly; and most importantly many times Jimmy Page has 4 or 5 layers of guitars playing the same part to give it that thick and heavy sound. For an example if you listen very closely to Black Dog it has one guitar part but that one part is made up of multiple layers of different performances of that one guitar part (probably 5 layers.) You can hear this same approach but with less guitars on "In My Time of Dying" where two different guitars play the same part. One has a fuzzier tone and one has a cleaner tone. Listen to it on headphones, which makes it easier to hear them. Secondly, many times Jimmy Page would have a guitar-army arrangement with many guitar parts going on at the same and because he was only one person he had to overdub them. Songs like "Celebration Day", "Trampled Under Foot", "Dancing Days", "Ten Years Gone", and "Achilles Last Stand" are all great examples. The first four start to sound a bit muddy because of the multiple guitar parts and layers of tape hiss. By the time "Achilles" comes around apparently tape noise reduction got good enough were it wasn't as much of a problem That's why Presence is probably their cleanest sounding album. With analog there are two things to worry about. The first is generation loss which is when you copy one tape to another tape when bouncing down multiple tracks to one track to free up recording space, as described by the post above. The second is the loss that occurs every time a piece of analog tape runs through a machine a little bit of the magnetic material is worn off in the process. Queen faced this problem when recording "Bohemian Rhapsody." They even joked about being able to see through the tape by the end of the recording session. Fleetwood Mac (with Rumors) and Pink Floyd (with The Wall) tried to address the issue of tape wear by recording the rhythm tracks on a tape then copied that tape to work on. After all of the other work was done they then went back to the pristine rhythm track tapes to finish the work by bring in the overdubs at that point so the basic rhythm track tape didn't have to go through the machine over, and over, and over, and over again. For the Fleetwood Mac Rumors sessions they discuss that work flow extensively on the Classic Albums documentary that covers it. It's a good DVD if you haven't seen it. To my knowledge Jimmy Page never used this pristine rhythm track method with Led Zeppelin, probably because it would have slowed down the recording process and disrupted his creativity too much.
  12. Keep in mind that with analog tape every time you overdub something you get an additional layer of tape hiss. Since many times Jimmy Page had multiple layers of the same guitar part or multiple guitar parts at the same time the overall background noise of nearly song that they recorded in the studio was going to be higher. To my ears the worst offender is "Celebration Day" which sounds pretty murky and muddy, luckily it suits the song in a cool way because it adds a touch of mystery. Another potential issue is that many of the albums were recorded with mobile studios in unconventional locations as apposed to a standard studio. Noise reduction on tape eventually partially overcame the overdub/tape hiss issue which is why Presence, which probably has the most overdubs still sounds pretty clean.
  13. Does anyone else think that this case might have been holding up 50th Anniversary or live album plans and things will start moving again?
  14. Is there any information on how much footage of the Zeppelin performance at the Texas International Pop Festival exists? What is the source? Is the available clip complete or is there more and it is just a sample?
×
×
  • Create New...