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  1. Well, I admit the day job comment was a little simplistic. But my friend Zeppelin did not end in 1980. They are back on the charts now with new material, new to fans, with much more to come. Two things are very obvious: Robert has shown disdain, which is his every right. And Jimmy loves working on Zeppelin things, which is his right. Jimmy doesn't want, and I will speak for him here, to put out a bunch of albums for the sake of just putting them out. It is a larger than life vibe that he has nourished so well. Robert on the other hand, is the one who us acting like a hired gun, acting as if Zep was just one of his many projects. This project, that project, to be honest Robert has started so many bands I can't remember them, in my mind it's just a mush of stuff, a few things stand out like Heaven Knows or the country thing, excuse Americana thing. None of the solo stuff compares, not even close. This whole argument just shows to me who the true visionary was, and is of Led Zeppelin. For instance the new mastering is way crazy awesome, thank you Jimmy Page!. Robert strikes me as desperate to put out new material without a care whether or not it is the most amazing material of all time. Jimmy only wants the very very best, new Zep shit is coming out a lot and it is smoking. As far as the boys getting back together I don't feel like they owe me to do it. Jimmy has been very smart not to just get someone else and go live, not a good idea to tarnish the magic. Jimmy has shown great restraint in staying on message. Thank god I'm not sure what Roberts message is, something about exploring new types of music, I had always thought Zep had covered all those bases very well. As far as Robert being the voice of Zeppelin I would strongly disagree, Roberts voice is heard in Jimmy's mixes. I think Roberts job in Zep was more of being a cheerleader, rockin out while the band jams, then screaming every now and again. But now Robert doesn't want to be the cheerleader anymore, he has bigger ideas. Unfortunately his efforts haven't sounded as good as Zep. Robert is coming off as someone who has something to prove, Jimmy isn't really trying to prove anything, he is in more of a demonstration mode, pointing out the different ruff mixes, which I am finding incredibly illuminating. But don't get me wrong, I love Robert Plant. He is a god, of music. It's just that Jimmy is the actual genius behind the things that I love about Zep and Robert might be a tad more respectful. So yes, Robert acts as if Zep was just a job. The whole band of joy thing was meant as a jab at Jimmy, and now his most recent comments, very disrespectful. The only thing I ask is that no one call me a Plant hater, that drives me nuts. However I do feel Robert is a very great man, and Jimmy Page is one of the greatest musical composers of all time, it's all coming out in the wash. I have no idea if Jimmy was a pric to work for.....
  2. Jimmy Page is still working Zeppelin, producing if you will. I think Jimmy doesn't feel the need to produce or be involvolved with other bands because Led Zeppelin is his band, the greatest rock band in the world. Robert has bunches of groups, so he likes working on those, but for Zeppelin he was just the singer for ten years or so, for Jimmy it's a life long thing. Robert wants to be in the Sensational Space Shifters and jimmy wants to be in Zep, simple as that. There is so much Zep work still to be done. Sure, the phase where the four are jamming out and collaborating on Jimmy's productions is over. As the years go by Zeppelin only becomes more relevant, thank you Jimmy Page for your hard work and never letting the fans down. For Robert it was just his day job at the time. I am not a Robert hater, I actually like some of his solo stuff, it's pretty good.
  3. i have a hunch this is going to happen. They sat together at the kennedy thing, they sat together at charlie rose, so theyre sick of sitting around, just get on with it. this is happening. I got that funny feeling I got around the time of the o2 announcment.
  4. ok groove, i was here a lot back with the old site but had taken long breaks, take a couple days to get back into the rythm of things. I glad im not a robert hater
  5. no -life so called fans? actually I think you have a mental condition----why do you feel the need to attack people? ok moving on I will try to not attack anyone lets see now--Robert, when he was young, was considered one of the best singers of all time. Now that he is 65 he is still considered one of the best. I don't see that he feels that he has to be comparable to his hey day. He has done a lot of cool new things without having to be produced by Jimmy Page(thatl get em going). Robert has made funny statements like Zep were a boy band and things like whole lotta love was a kind of thing and he not really doing that sex crazed teenager thing anymore. I haven't seen any evidence that he has to be comparable now. for the 2007 gig he told the boys to tune in down a notch and that was fine. it was a cool change, it made everything sound more sinister, in a way. Does Robert need to be defended? no-that's silly I dont think he feels pigeon holed as a zep member, he is proud of how great they are. sure he wants to branch out and have fun, do different things, fine. Just because Jimmy was really hoping to fire up the old Zep engine and Robert didn't want to-- is no reason to hate him. If your going to be in a band you have to want to be there. as for Robert not singing a zep tune for 8 years in the 80's, it was probably because of devastation over the passing of JB. Robert has always seemed to me to be very emotional about things, in a good way. ok now go attack me. i'm sure you can find things in what ive said that prove one thing or another, or some kind of qualification of being a fan that you and your 5000 posts makes you qualified to cast judgments about people.
  6. whats the whole deal with robert haters anyway, everybody on this site is always saying this persons a robert hater or there we go with the robert haters again, its like you cant be critical on this site without some one calling you a robert hater, robert hater robert hater. I'm sick of the violin bow solo does that make me a a jimmy hater?
  7. Bob Mayo on the keyboards, Bob Mayo.. oh I thought we got whole Lotta love for an encore, maybe my memory is fading, probably
  8. I saw Robert on the I'm in the mood for a melody tour and he did a couple zep tunes, maybe 82 0r 3, Phil Collins on drums, his guitarist Robbie was real good. I really liked the first 2 solo albums. Principal of Moments some artists do work and never look back
  9. oh I did't say stuck up pompous human beings...I said a little pompous ....anyway i didn't mean that..what I was trying to say is that they live in the limelight as it were..and all that shining light tends to tarnish ones perspective ..I'm sure they are very down to earth---still It's just that I wonder if while sitting with the president or going to Oslo to pick up this award or that one....you know In the old days it seamed they just did what they wanted to and it was good....now they are more concerned with what they should be doing anyway pure speculation on my part...I don't know them.....and like i have stated over and over again...i have always idolized them... I cant see how with millions of adoring fans one cant get a little pompous from time to time?
  10. i love zeppelin more than the next guy but I think they are a little pompous. They take themselvers very seriously. Robert is always talking about how he wants to move on but then performs zep tunes at all his solo shows. So all these answers that they give in interviews are just a smoke screen for the real sitch. It is our fault--we the fans--we wanted somethjing to believe in and as they are getting older they don't want to let the true believrs down. stupid bloody blokes like myself considering them gods....in the end they are just people.... This whole greatist rock band in rock n roll history is stupid...to me they were bigger than rock n roll itself...they were something totally differnt having to do with energy and emotion... it's hard to live up to the hype when your pushing 70 so you become conceited. I love them though
  11. Uh, the foo fighters sucked pretty bad, I was embarrassed for them. The singer has no business trying to sing that song and he looked cheezy. Dave grole kind of fucked up the end of the song , sounded off and generic, hes never been anything close to JB
  12. oh yes, they will be writing new songs very soon....tour to follow!!!! i'm sure of it
  13. I think thats one of my favorite all time solos!!!!!!!!
  14. wow, very inspiring, i'm not sure the year matters to me but jimmy's history is awe inspiring
  15. yup just as I thought, 2:15 for sure and 2;21 most likely. Think like an editor-after a complete phrase- good time to get in I mean just guessing, I hear all kinds of shit in those records- lots of times im wrong- no big deal. think about it though, the first album went real good---the second album shaping up nicely. "just roll the tape ill do it in 3 passes---unlikely---he would have wanted to think long and hard about it and have lots of option you can be sure, but i wasnt there
  16. All right check this out, I splice this stuff all the time. You can use ten reels of solos real easy, just roll tape and start doing thing. Then you go back and listen to all the solos and just take the best few parts and nick em together, totally a pagy thing to do, no big deal. just because you have 10 tapes doesn't mean you take little bits from each performance, the song is spliced together already. I read somewhere probably here that page said" its important to always have the tape rolling when mixing because you never know what youll get." how i remember it. Pete townsend did like 3500 splices baba oriely. Then after you have the coolist most casual vibes pieced together, when you play live- you kinda just play like the record. Thats how you get records to sound spontaniuos- because they are, but when your playing spontainous sometimes you get shitty stuff in there to because your taking risks. hence you edit out the shit stuff and are left with the cool stuff. Ill go back and listen and tell where the edits are, its usually obvious once you know what your looking for. I have to admit however that I would have never have thought this when listening to heartbreaker as a child but now I know- thats how its done Page invented a lot those techniques
  17. very interesting, some cats can splice tape so fast and clean you would never know, as far as choosing bits from multiple takes-its a vibe thing - splicing the vibes together, I could see it
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