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Matjaz1

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  1. What can I say!? Thanks! He has a really deep melancholy in his voice and it's beautiful, but it's still better for us zepsters, when the drums kick in! A really good drummer! Who is it!?
  2. If it's not a problem, that's it's easy and simple for you, it would be nice to hear some more argumentation, why a certain part is actually out of place and wrong for you! I think in Morning dew, the guitar and keyboard parts go really well with the theme of the song and the vocals!
  3. I think some don't like it because of other genres, Robert incorporated in latter solo career and some because of his criticsm of society, which he pretty much avoided in Zeppelin and early solo career and he has a lot to say, it's great he wrote some of the songs on Fate of nations and Mighty rearranger!
  4. I think it's great, one of his best! Great songs, great arrangements! I will write more about it latter! I just have to! As far as some saying, he has mediocre parts and mediocre musicans on some projects and that it might also be a product of his control, it's almost like you are saying, that speedy virtuosity and operatic vocals are everything! It can most certainly be a sign of probable success, if it's musical enough and incorporated into great songs, which again is rather hard to say, why a certain song is great, it's always related to personal taste at the end and the only completely objective thing you have, is the amount of success, certain song had and it's great us fans, can appreciate albums like Fate of nations, because it had little success! Robert probably knew, people expected different things in early nineties(Guns n roses, Nirvana type stuff), but he followed his heart! What I'm saying is, that Robert knows very well, there are many ways to approach arrangements, even in Zeppelin they did that and if someone thinks, some song of his is mediocre, just because it doesn't have a fast solo, then I'm sorry to hear that!
  5. Thanks Sam and badgeholder! It's cool to read, as I like The Beatles a lot, got all their albums, because they further fulfill a melodic side of me, I like The Rolling stones a lot less, even if they come from the blues, just like Zep basically do!
  6. Bonham could be such a melodic drummer yeah, without actually playing drums that enable notes! He also listened to a lot of motown and funk stuff, that's where all the little details in his drumming come from!
  7. Can anyone confirm please!? SteveAJones?! Thanks!
  8. Great topic! Hope it doesn't turn into which one could play instead of Jason! Ups, better not even mentioning it! I wonder how much he picked from other very famous rock drummers few years before Zeppelin, not just Moon! I recall he praised Abbey Road once, but he said he heard, that Paul played some of the stuff! He could certainly do all that stuff, except for maybe some Cream and The Doors stuff, but he had jazz influences, so he was really skilled!
  9. It's easier to tune it and tune it back for Stairway to heaven!
  10. I think this discussion now, is mostly about Jimmy's sound again! Not that much in latter years, when he was rather sloopy, but I just think that there is such a thing, that his style of playing, his sound, might bring a feeling of a less technical player to some people, but there were many players in history, that had their own sound, infact we don't even know how some of the classical greats actually sounded, beacuse they couldn't record them!! Some people just prefer a typical sound of someone who practised many hours a day for decades in various music shools and therefore has no sound of his own and no originality! I'm not saying all such people lack a true interest in music and creativity, but some certainly do and many times listen to something at cheap high class social events! Jimmy is a true great, that was more then enough brilliant technically aswell, especially early on!
  11. Really great how some of you describe the emotion in his playing and it's there always and sometimes the sloppiness adds emotion and sometimes the emotion is so strong, it just makes it sound different, unique!
  12. Well he certainly wouldn't phrase as good! Haha, I replied to the first quote! Another good example of great early precision is the bonus material on disc one, especially Danish TV and most of the main feature is like that too, although Jimmy's sound is a bit more distorted than ussualy that night!
  13. Yeah his sound is very cool, but it's harder to achieve the sound of 80's virtuosos, in particulary Vai!
  14. To go more in detail, sometimes even in the early years, he got a bit entangled in the fast low lines, for example in Dazed or I can't quit you babe, or perhaps messing up a repetitive high lick which he repeated several times when it seemed like he wanted atleast once more and he somehow saved it with something similar at the end, but those things were rare and if you repeat something, no one knows how many times you actually wanted to play it, although I'm shure Van halen could repeat it for a minute! Jimmy could still successfully repeat it in the middle of Stairway solo though! And he was a far better improviser(phraser) and composer then Van Halen and had a far better band!
  15. Yeah, but he wanted such a solo in the studio, he did it differently and far better live! As for some people making a point about Vai and Van Halen, sometimes it would not be bad if besides the phrasing, Jimmy could also play as technical as Vai or Satriani but he could be very technical in the early years, but still not as much as Vai and Van Halen!
  16. You just don't have a case, when you talk live 1968-1972! If you can point five significant mistakes from those releases, I will be very suprised! And studio? Yeah allright I'can't quit you babe and Heartbreaker were on purpose, but what else!??
  17. This pretty much describes it, but c'mon, if you listen to BBC sessions and How the west was won, you hardly hear any sloppines at all! We all know how he sounds, when he messes up, but on those two releases it's just very rare and they sum up the early years very well!
  18. Not a fan really! One of the main characteristics is intesity and lots of stuff I don't like! But as Jimmy said, the whole intensity of the genre certainly comes from Led Zeppelin to a degree, so how could I not like some of the stuff still!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk3r677iDWY
  19. I voted for Since I've been loving you, but my favourite ending is many times the one, that ends after half an hour!
  20. The studio and live versions of Bron y aur stomp have different tunings and I think it's because Page did not want That's the way and Bron to be in the same key on the album. The tuning mentioned above is the live tuning: DGDGBD The studio is: CFCFAC
  21. Written Simpsons quote: http://ledzeppelinreferences.com/sites/simpsons.php The only video I found is in Spanish! There is just too little of this stuff, for them to say such thing, especially when a typicall thing is like the intro in Bring it on home(they could have left the intro out easily), or various blues lyrics in The lemon song! Like I said, it's only a few songs and little bits in others and it's almost all limited to first two albums and when you look at II, it's already got tons of original stuff!
  22. Yeah allright, the point is, he earned money from Zep songs! Well that is not a problem legally, so why not! Zep still got paid for it, but Randy California got nothing for Stairway! And in my opinion quite rightly so, because the difference is big and because this song by Davy Graham from 1959, was before Randy and is actually closer to Stairway! I think Graham's version also makes it clear, why Randy was so quiet for so long!
  23. DropDown playing someone's song in concert, is not the same as plagiarism!
  24. I think you are all overemphasising, because it's their most known song! They got so many totally original songs, which the general public knows quite well, so many albums sold, so many awards and many award givers knew about Stairway, I'm shure and most fans know this for a long time and it doesn't make that much of a difference, because not just that it's quite a bit different, there are many other guitar sections, that had to be WRITTEN, they are just to great, to call that arranging, then the lyrics, the recorders, bass, keyboards, drums and the vocal melody that changes four times and also has a very short chorus! !
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