My reaction is the same as 60blues. No words...just a nice big hug. So come here, SozoZoso, and let me hug you.

^^^ Ditto E! Enjoy the last home game! May you sweep Miami! What are the Orioles waiting for? It's the last week of the season...Baltimore better get it in gear!!! Congratulations to the Red Sox! From worst to first! I certainly never saw it coming. My girlfriend and other Red Sox-loving friends are very happy. Now, if only my stinking Angels can reach .500 for the season this week. Goddamn that Mike Scsoscia. If the Angels don't fire him, I might have to rethink continuing supporting the Angels and look for another team.

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I spent last night watching Looney Tunes on the big screen...the way they were meant to be seen amd originally were from the 1920s to the 1970s. You always got a cartoon before the movie. Chuck Jones would have been 101 yesterday and the American Cinematheque hosted a Chuck Jones 101 Birthday Tribute with his widow, children and grandchildren in attendance. June Foray, Leonard Maltin and Charles Solomon were also on hand. And Daffy, Bugs, Elmer, Porky, Wile E., Roadrunner, and Mel Blanc, God rest his soul. A night of a thousand laughs. I'm very happy for you and your family. Certain movies deserve to be seen on the screen in a theatre with other people laughing and enjoying the film, the way the director intended the movie to be seen. "The Wizard of Oz" is one! The colours, the sets, the costumes, the singing and dancing, Ray Bolger, JUDY GARLAND! Certain details get lost watching it on tv or dvd, no matter how big your plasma widescreen tv is. Movie-going is a communal activity, not a hermetic one, and some movies are just better seen with a crowd of people sharing the experience. I hope you all enjoyed it...although I kind of wish your first viewing of "The Wizard of Oz" was the normal version. I'm not sure 3D is necessary or even beneficial to a film such as "The Wizard of Oz". They had the big premiere for the IMAX 3D version last week at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, where it opened to the public on Friday. The Chinese Theatre had its grand reopening, too, after the Chinese bought it last year and it was changed from Grauman's Chinese Theatre to TCL Chinese Theatre. They've presumably made some changes, although thankfully, they've kept the movie star hand-and-footprints in cement in the courtyard. That's wonderful...pm me if he has any questions about a certain film and I'll try to help.

It has to suck being a Cleveland Browns fan.

1250 Seattle -18.5 vs. Jacksonville (5dimes.com) 400 Seattle What the hell...go for the gusto. All the other games I couldn't be sure which team was going to win, let alone figure out who would cover or not. At least I'm 100% certain Seattle will beat Jacksonville, and it'll be fun to root for a blowout.

Hoky smokes! Mark, that's awesome! I am old enough to remember this match...I even had money on it with some schoolmates. The money I won helped pay for my Who ticket for their Quadrophenia tour. Bobby Riggs had demolished Margaret Court in a previous match and many felt the same would happen again with Billie Jean King. But Margaret Court was old and past her prime in tennis years. That wasn't the case with Billie Jean Case. Anyone who watched tennis back then could tell Ms. King had the goods to beat boastful Bobby. It was quite the circus event, and would have far-reaching effect in the long run. It was more than just a tennis match. You have to remember, it was only shortly before this that women were allowed to have their own credit cards and bank accounts. I have some friends in Houston but I think they were born after this match. The Astrodome is still there...albeit kind of a neglected artifact, now that the newer, bigger and shinier Reliant Stadium is sitting next door. Thanks for the memory flashback Mark. If I may ask, how was it that you were on the court at age 17?

Many birthdays of late...dear planted, belatedly on my part, for one. Missy I knew about and already sent greetings privately. Happy birthday to the Florida Sunshine Girl! But what's this about the enigmatic Anjin-san? KB doesn't show up on the birthday calendar so I had no idea it was his Celebration Day today...err, yesterday I mean. Well, Kev, I hope you had a good one and a splendid time was had by all...friends and family alike. As it is now September 21, let me be the first to wish a très joyeux anniversaire to Stargroves Tangie!!! Hope you make the most of your special day. Your PMs have always been rewarding and most welcome. To one and all, many happy returns of the day.

Same here...not seeing much that I like. Those 19.5 and 15 point spreads scare me. Plus, I usually like to find good deals in home underdogs but there are only two this week and none look appealing.

Where is Sue? Isn't it mandatory that she contribute her expertise on every "Dazed and Confused" thread?

Absolutely Bonzo_fan! I much prefer the January 1975 setlist to the February-March one. It is fascinating to hear "How Many More Times" again after being absent for so long. It would have been incredible to hear "Wanton Song" and "Levee" in March as the band got healthier and more comfortable with the songs. And with "How Many More Times", Jimmy could still do his wizard with the bow act with all the sturm und drang. A golden opportunity missed. Oh, and perhaps I should clarify...there are no RECORDED "Oceans" between May 5 and May 28, 1973. It's probable and even likely that they played "The Ocean" sometime between Tampa and San Diego...New Orleans? Texas? Mobile?...we just don't have any evidence on tape.

Haha, don't get me started...this has been a major bone of contention with me from the beginning.

^^^ Yeah, the 9.19.70 is good...as are some other 1970 ones. They are just too damn short, haha.

This isn't as difficult or interesting question to ponder as your other questions, for several reasons. Unlike "Dazed and Confused", "Over the Hills and Far Away", "Since I've Been Loving You", and "No Quarter", which could vary night to night, year to year, "The Ocean" was pretty much performed as it was on the album, with the only variation being whether Robert Plant would remember the lyrics. That's why all the live versions are around 4 minutes long. Then, there is the fact that there are only 20 known recorded performances to choose from...and of those 20, only about half in decent sound quality. The Hamburg '73 is atrocious...why couldn't the soundboard tape have kept running through the encore? I like the June 25, 1972 Forum one on the official HTWWW release...it has the Bonzo count-in, the lyrics in the right place, and good sound. But really, you can't go wrong with any of them. The 1973 MSG on TSRTS is also a great one, even though Plant switches verses 2 and 3. LA, San Francisco, Seattle...all good. But it is strange that there is no "Ocean" between the one in Tampa on May 5 and San Diego May 28! No "Ocean" in Chicago either...and they played TWO NIGHTS there!!! This is another case, much like "The Rover", where the band didn't seem to know what a great song they had in hand. It should have been played much more often.

No need to be envious. Yes, it is like choosing a favourite child, but somewhere here on the forum I did do a ranking of the concerts I saw. I don't know if the Search function works well enough to find my post, but it's out there. Unfortunately it is late and I'm too tired to look for it now. I can tell you that 6.25.72 and 6.23.77 are pretty much locked in at #1 and #2.

Ways the original 1976 vinyl release is superior to the 2007 Remaster. 1. Celebration Day 2. No Quarter 3. The Song Remains the Same 4. Dazed and Confused 5. Whole Lotta Love 6. The crowd/background noise isn't overbearing. Ways the 2007 Remaster is better than the 1976 release: 1. Misty Mountain Hop/Since I've Been Loving You 2. The Ocean 3. Heartbreaker 4. Improvement in the sound, especially the bass and drums. Albeit at the expense of some naturalness. The 1976 version wins 6-4. Other reasons the 2007 Remaster gets demerits...the shocking butchering of "Black Dog", "No Quarter", "Whole Lotta Love", "Dazed and Confused", and "Celebration Day" makes me cringe to this day. The lack of "Communication Breakdown" and "Thank You" is also a minus. I listen to my 1976 original TSRTS almost exclusively now. I only put on the Remaster when I want to hear The Ocean and Misty Mountain Hop and SIBLY...and then, it's usually the dvd not the cd.

I have a deep feeling of foreboding about my picks this week. I sense impending doom. Just couldn't get a sure grasp on several games...flip-flopping back and forth between teams. Tonight's game was one such conundrum...Kansas City or Philadelphia? Obviously I chose wrongly. Bad omen for things to come this weekend? A lot of you may be passing me in the overall standings Sunday.

^^^ Welcome back to the land of the living, DAS. I must say I didn't expect KC to turn it around this quick. There's still a lot of season left, though. Rick, tell me again why Buffalo didn't make more of an effort to sign Alex Smith? I'm dreading Monday night.

Actually, Wes, I think they played other places in the UK like Liverpool and Manchester. It's just that I didn't get around to posting the tour info until those dates had already occurred.

The one I have apparently is one that doesn't exist, as I can't find it listed anywhere...not even on ZeppelinArt.com. It's a CD-R and the cover says "Offenbach Daze". It's an audience tape a little over two hours.

No, I wan't at the June 22, '77 show. It figures the one Forum show I miss and it turned out to be one of the better ones of the week. I didn't care for the Alembic bass, either, but it didn't sound as bad on "Over the Hills..." as it did on TSRTS. Maybe it was because the guys at the soundboard had figured out how to reduce the twang by the fourth song of the set. 6.25.72 6.27.72 5.31.73 6.2.73 6.3.73 3.12.75 3.24.75 3.25.75 3.27.75 6.21.77 6.23.77 6.25.77 6.26.77 6.27.77 Those were the shows I saw.

The outro jam is one of my favourite parts of the live versions of "Dazed and Confused"! As I have said many times (much to Sue's dismay), by the 1975 tour, often the only part of "Dazed and Confused" that didn't bore me was the 'Woodstock/San Francisco/violin bow interlude' and the 'outro jam'. Everything else often sounded by rote, ragged, and tired. Then, the 'outro jam' would come to save the day and your ears would perk up. If only the rest of "Dazed and Confused" on the 1975 tour could have been as interesting and psychedelic as the 'outro jam' and 'Woodstock'. All performances of "Dazed and Confused" have an 'outro' of course. But to my ears, it wasn't until 1971 that they really started to become "jams". With Bonham and Jones laying down a cool circular groove that spiraled in intensity as the jam went on, Jimmy would peel off these mesmerizing wah-wah licks, often with Plant oooing and ahhhhing and moaning (often Blind Faith's "Do What You Like") in tandem. In some of the 1971 outros, you can hear Page get into some "White Summer" licks. 1972 features some fluid and almost jazzy runs by Page. The 1973 ones (especially the Euro tour) feature some great interplay between the band and some monstrous beats by Bonham (see Hamburg), including some inhumanly fast drum solos at the very end of the song. 1975 marked the end of "Dazed and Confused" as part of the set list, so it seems as if the band pulled out all the stops on this tour, with some 'outro jams' exceeding 4, 5, even 6 minutes. Here's a chronological list of most of my favourite 'outro jams'...there are still some "Dazed and Confused"s I have yet to hear, so this list is by no means definitive. Month.Date.Year. Location 1971 4.1.71 Paris Theatre, London 8.23.71 Ft. Worth, TX 8.31.71 Orlando, FL 9.3.71 MSG, NY 9.23.71 Tokyo 9.29.71 Osaka 11.11.71 Newcastle, UK 1972 6.11.72 Baltimore 6.25.72 LA Forum 6.28.72 Tuscon, AZ 1973 3.6.73 Stockholm 3.16.73 Vienna 3.17.73 Munich 3.21.73 Hamburg 3.24.73 Offenburg 7.17.73 Seattle 7.21.73 Providence 7.28.73 MSG, NY 7.29.73 MSG, NY 1975 2.12.75 MSG, NY 2.13.75 Nassau, NY 2.14.75 Nassau, NY 2.16.75 St. Louis 3.4.75 Dallas 3.17.75 Seattle 3.20.75 Vancouver 3.21.75 Seattle 3.25.75 LA Forum 3.27.75 LA Forum 5.24.75 Earl's Court, UK 5.25.75 Earl's Court, UK

Ditto for the Rays...also in twelve innings! Texas continues to melt.

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There is a great band from Austin, Texas that is on tour in Europe and the UK at the moment...The Black Angels. I don't know if they have already played in your country or if they are coming close to you in the future, but if you have a chance to check them out, I urge you to do so. Here are the remaining dates of the tour. Sep 18 Electric Ballroom London, United Kingdom Sep 20 Austin Psych Fest Presents Levitation France w/ Dead Skeletons,... Angers, France Sep 22 L'AERONEF Lille, France Sep 23 Le Trianon Paris, France Sep 25 Epicerie Moderne Lyon, France Sep 26 Festival MARSATAC Marseille, France Sep 27 Festival Coconut Saintes, France Sep 28 Bikini Toulouse, France Sep 30 Circolo degli Artisti Rome, Italy Oct 01 Bronson Ravenna, Italy