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  1. The latest issue of Uncut(a British music magazine) also has a Bob Dylan cover story: Uncut Bob Dylan 70th Birthday issue There's 4 different Bob covers you can get...below is one of them.
  2. Going through old video clips of Van Halen, I discovered that TODAY is the 40th Anniversary of the start of the 1981 Fair Warning tour...Van Halen's BEST TOUR, performance-wise and setlist, ever, IMO. I went to 5 shows on this tour: June 20-21: LA Forum August 30: Nashville Municipal Auditorium, Nashville TN September 12: Sam Houston Coliseum, Houston TX October 2: Frank Erwin Center, Austin TX Each concert was one big non-stop party, which, when you're 19, is EXACTLY what you want at a rock concert!!! These shows remain among my most treasured concert memories...the Nashville show being my first big-time road-trip and first visit to the "Music City". Of course, I had seen Van Halen before, having the good fortune to live in Southern California...my very first Van Halen show was at the Whisky-a-Go-Go the weekend right before tickets went on sale for Led Zeppelin's 1977 tour at the Forum. Being a hometown band, Van Halen shows in LA were always off-the-charts insane. What I was not expecting was how BELOVED the band was in Texas...I swear, I think Van Halen audiences in Texas were just as geeked up as the LA ones. And Van Halen seemed to return the love, for if you look at their tour schedule, they played Texas almost as much as California throughout their history. And not just the big cities like Dallas and Houston, but the rinky dink towns, too, that most bands of their stature passed over. Anyway, here's the full tour schedule: see if you can find the date you went to on this tour. I've included a setlist, too...a correct one, the one on wikipedia is wrong. If there's anyone here old enough to have seen Van Halen on this tour, post the show you went to and your memories. Van Halen 1981 Fair Warning Tour First North American Leg * May 12, 1981: Halifax, NS - Halifax Metro Centre * May 15, 1981: Providence, RI - Providence Civic Center * May 16, 1981: Portland, ME - Cumberland County Civic Center * May 17, 1981: Glens Falls, NY - Glens Falls Civic Center * May 18, 1981: Rochester, NY - Rochester Community War Memorial * May 20, 1981: Charleston, WV - Charleston Civic Center * May 24, 1981: Kalamazoo, MI - Wings Stadium * May 27, 1981: Cleveland, OH - Richfield Coliseum * May 31, 1981: Spokane, WA - Spokane Coliseum * June 2, 1981: Vancouver, BC - Pacific Coliseum * June 6, 1981: Seattle, WA - Seattle Center Coliseum * June 8, 1981: Portland, OR - Memorial Coliseum * June 9, 1981: Portland, OR - Memorial Coliseum * June 11, 1981: Oakland, CA - Oakland Arena * June 12, 1981: Oakland, CA - Oakland Arena * June 13, 1981: Oakland, CA - Oakland Arena * June 16, 1981: Las Vegas, NV - Aladdin Theater * June 18, 1981: Fresno, CA - Selland Arena * June 19, 1981: Los Angeles, CA - The Forum * June 20, 1981: Los Angeles, CA - The Forum * June 21, 1981: Los Angeles, CA - The Forum Second North American Leg * July 2, 1981: Milwaukee, WI - MECCA Arena * July 3, 1981: Detroit, MI - Cobo Hall * July 4, 1981: Detroit, MI - Cobo Hall * July 5, 1981: Detroit, MI - Cobo Hall * July 7, 1981: St. Paul, MN - St. Paul Civic Center * July 9, 1981: Indianapolis, IN - Market Square Arena * July 10, 1981: Chicago, IL - International Amphitheater * July 11, 1981: Chicago, IL - International Amphitheater * July 12, 1981: Chicago, IL - International Amphitheater * July 14, 1981: Pittsburgh, PA - Civic Arena * July 16, 1981: New Haven, CT - New Haven Coliseum * July 17, 1981: New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden * July 18, 1981: Uniondale, NY - Nassau Coliseum * July 20, 1981: Philadelphia, PA - The Spectrum * July 21, 1981: Philadelphia, PA - The Spectrum * July 22, 1981: Philadelphia, PA - The Spectrum * July 24, 1981: Boston, MA - Boston Garden * July 25, 1981: Boston, MA - Boston Garden * July 26, 1981: Portland, ME - Cumberland County Civic Center * July 27, 1981: Roanoke, VA - Roanoke Civic Center * July 28, 1981: Largo, MD - Capital Center * July 29, 1981: Largo, MD - Capital Center * July 30, 1981: Largo, MD - Capital Center * July 31, 1981: Buffalo, NY - Buffalo Memorial Auditorium * August 2, 1981: Cleveland, OH - Richfield Coliseum * August 4, 1981: Toronto, ON - Maple Leaf Gardens * August 5, 1981: Montreal, QC - Montreal Forum Third North American Leg * August 18, 1981: Hollywood, FL - Hollywood Sportatorium * August 19, 1981: Lakeland, FL - Lakeland Civic Center * August 22, 1981: Atlanta, GA - The Omni * August 23, 1981: Knoxville, TN - Knoxville Civic Coliseum * August 24, 1981: Charlotte, NC - Charlotte Coliseum * August 25, 1981: Greensboro, NC - Greensboro Coliseum * August 27, 1981: Hampton, VA - Hampton Coliseum * August 29, 1981: Cincinnati, OH - Riverfront Coliseum * August 30, 1981: Nashville, TN - Nashville Municipal Auditorium * August 31, 1981: Birmingham, AL - Birmingham Jefferson Civic Complex * September 1, 1981: Memphis, TN - Mid-South Coliseum * September 3, 1981: Huntsville, AL - Von Braun Civic Center * September 4, 1981: Jackson, MS - Mississippi Coliseum * September 5, 1981: Biloxi, MS - Mississippi Coast Coliseum * September 6, 1981: Baton Rouge, LA - Riverside Centroplex * September 8, 1981: Shreveport, LA - Hirsch Memorial Coliseum * September 10, 1981: Dallas, TX - Reunion Arena * September 12, 1981: Houston, TX - Sam Houston Coliseum Fourth North American Leg * September 28, 1981: Phoenix, AZ - Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum * September 29, 1981: San Diego, CA - San Diego Sports Arena * October 2, 1981: Austin, TX - Frank Erwin Center * October 3, 1981: Norman, OK - Lloyd Noble Center * October 6, 1981: Albuquerque, NM - Tingley Coliseum * October 7, 1981: El Paso, TX - El Paso County Coliseum * October 9, 1981: San Antonio, TX - San Antonio Convention Center * October 15, 1981: Tulsa, OK - Mabee Center * October 16, 1981: Wichita, KS - Kansas Coliseum * October 17, 1981: Kansas City, MO - Kemper Arena * October 18, 1981: St. Louis, MO - St. Louis Arena * October 20, 1981: Omaha, NE - Omaha Civic Auditorium * October 21, 1981: Cedar Rapids, IA - Five Seasons Center * October 24, 1981: Orlando, FL - Citrus Bowl (Opening for The Rolling Stones) * October 25, 1981: Orlando, FL - Citrus Bowl (Opening for The Rolling Stones) Set list 1. On Fire 2. Sinner's Swing! 3. Drum Solo 4. Hear About It Later 5. So This Is Love 6. Jamie's Cryin' 7. Bass Solo 8. Runnin' With The Devil 9. Dance the Night Away 10. Sunday Afternoon In The Park 11. Romeo Delight 12. Everybody Wants Some!! 13. Ice Cream Man 14. Mean Street 15. Guitar Solo 16. Feel Your Love Tonight 17. You Really Got Me Encore: 18. Unchained 19. Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
  3. "Bob Marley & the Wailers Live!" is an outstanding album. You were a fortuitous one, Jahfin, to have that as your entree into the world of Marley and reggae. It's obvious you have what I like to call, "open ears"...you hear something that you like and you have the curiosity to dig further into the roots and the subsequent fruit that develops from those roots. I find it distressing sometimes when some people's musical tastes seem to run the gamut from AC/DC to Aerosmith. How many power chords and 4/4 beats can you listen to in one lifetime before it all gets a little stale? Not that I'm knocking hard rock, but man does not live on bread alone. You can see it in the people who bashed Plant's alliances with Alison Krauss and now, the Band of Joy...if it's not hard rock, it's not worth their time seems to be the gist of their complaints. Which is ironic, given that it was getting into Led Zeppelin that led me to so many different strains of music: folk, bluegrass, krautrock, progressive, funk, metal, North African trance, blues, reggae...reggae, which leads to Bob Marley, which is the topic of this thread. So let me get this train back on track... My first Bob Marley album was "Burnin'", which I got in 1974 after hearing Eric Clapton's "I Shot the Sheriff" on the radio that year. After finding out that it was a cover of a Bob Marley song, that led me to seeking out Bob's version, which I discovered was on the "Burnin'" album, which had just been released late in 1973. My prior knowledge of reggae to this point was limited...I had seen "The Harder They Come" in 1973, and had the soundtrack album, so I knew about Desmond Dekker and the Maytals and Jimmy Cliff. But being a kid, I had limited funds, so I didn't have the spending money to be able to explore the reggae section of the local record store. Then, after "Houses of the Holy" came out in late March 1973, many reviews mentioned the band's take on reggae, "D'yer Mak'er", most of them unflattering, but I liked the song. Then, later that year, Elton John released his opus, "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road", which also had a reggae-inflected track called "Jamaica Jerk-Off", so you could see that, at least among the Brits, reggae was becoming the latest "hot thing". I believe it was also around this time, either 1973 or 1974, that Creem magazine ran a reggae article, sort of a guide to reggae, that further primed my interest. So by the time Eric Clapton's "I Shot the Sheriff" hit the radio, I decided it was time to further explore the whole reggae genre, and since Bob Marley was the name on everyone's lips, I started there. Naturally, it helped that the first Marley album I bought, "Burnin'" was one of his best. And that led me to his earlier albums and to put him on my list of people I wanted see in concert. Which I finally did in 1975, when he played a week of shows at the Roxy in Hollywood around my birthday.
  4. Thanks for that article, Jahfin. It's a pretty interesting take on Bob Marley and his legacy. I think Bob Marley is up there with Che Guevera as one of the most misused icons of the 20th century...especially among middle-class white kids.
  5. Well, I'm going to show my age here... This is SOOOO FREAKING AWESOME! Thank you planted...I owe you big time, as you've helped to clear my foggy memory. You see, I saw Elvis Presley 4 times in the 70's, and I thought Elvis had mentioned Led Zeppelin being in the audience at one of the shows; but was confused about whether it was at the 1973 or 1974 show. Now, I know for sure...it was May 11, 1974, 37 years ago today. Hmmmmm, time sure flies. I couldn't believe it when Elvis mentioned that Led Zeppelin was in attendance at the show...my head immediately started spinning like it was on a swivel stick, trying to locate them. By the way, Elvis was still pretty good at this stage. It wasn't until I saw him in 1976 that you could see the decline; he was fat and sweaty then. But the time I saw him in 1972(Long Beach) was the best of all 4 Elvis Presley concerts I attended. Having seen concerts at both the Rose Palace and the Santa Monica Civic, I can only imagine how loud the sound must have been at a Led Zeppelin show at these venues. There doesn't seem to be ANY tapes of these shows, which I find puzzling, since by this point in time, Led Zeppelin was building a buzz through the concert scene. Has anyone else heard of either the Rose Palace or the Santa Monica Civic shows being taped/booted ever?
  6. Wie gehts, Preetha? Sorry I've been out of touch...what's the latest news on your Bachelor of Commerce programme?

  7. Your welcome and thanks for your add! And, whoever took your photo did a wonderful job. Of course, it's no wonder given the lovely material he had to work with.

  8. Just wanted to say "Boy Howdy" and welcome to the board Melanie! :) You share the same birthday with my godson.

  9. Wow...today must be my lucky day! I've discovered that two posters from the old board are still around; David Zoso and now you, Big Klu!

    You still an Angels fan?

  10. Hi Lakey...was wondering if you were still around? Miss you and hope all is well with you these days.

  11. As soon as I saw Lady Gaga perform "Born This Way" on the Grammys, I immediately thought of Madonna's "Express Yourself"...as I'm sure a million other people did.
  12. Strider

    Obama/Osama

    I'd love to say I've never mixed them up...but I can't. Although at least I've never mixed up the names when writing a paper or posting. But in conversation, there have been a couple times where I've slipped up and said Osama when I meant Obama. Strangely enough, I've never done the reverse; said Obama when I meant Osama. But it's understandable when you're speaking; especially if you are at a party and have had a few drinks What I find less forgivable, nay unconscionable, is when the mistake is made in writing, where you have the ability to self-edit. And what's really beyond the pale is when news broadcasters make the mistake...you're a professional, act like one. Like when Fox News kept making the slip on their bottom-of-the-screen news crawl during the 2008 election; it was such a transparent attempt to slur Obama.
  13. "If freedom of speech means anything at all, it is the freedom to say things that people do not want to hear." ~ George Orwell
  14. "If freedom of speech means anything at all, it is the freedom to say things that people do not want to hear" ~ George Orwell

  15. Welcome to the board CIAFTOG! As you can see, others have posted their photos and YouTube clips, so I say "Post away!" I think we'd all like to see your pics.
  16. Poor kashmiran. All he wanted was some advice on which shows were best to get and instead he gets a bunch of lectures about buying vs. downloading, and "my dick is bigger than yours" audiophile posturing. My apologies kashmiran. If it's not too late to be of use, I'll give you my opinion of the 5 shows you listed to choose from. 1. March 11, 1975, Long Beach: This is the first show of the 5 that you should get, but on one condition...make sure it is the Godfatherecords release "The American Return" and NOT the Empress Valley or Eelgrass releases, as they run too fast. The Godfather release has the soundboard tape at correct speed in excellent sound; for some reason the 1975 tour soundboards all sound better than the 1973 and 1977 sbds. Another plus you get with the Godfather version is better patching of the gaps with Mike Millard's tape, better fades into and out of the discs, better artwork...and, as a bonus, the hilariously inept liner notes of Paul deLuxe, who, it seems, has only a passing relationship with the English language. The cover of this release features a photo of Jimmy playing the doubleneck against the backdrop of the American flag. And while the band's performance doesn't top the next night in Long Beach, nor the other March 75 dates, it's good enough...1975 found Zeppelin getting their funk on and the funkiness usually reached a peak in the Crunge/Theremin interlude between WWL and Black Dog. March 11, '75 Long Beach provides a cool example of that, along with some great Plantations. Add in the excellent sound, and it's clear this is the first choice...but only if it's the speed-corrected Godfatherecords release. 2. February 28, 1975, Baton Rouge: Another great sounding 75 sbd, with good to great versions of nearly every song, including the first use of Woodstock in Dazed & Confused...well, at least until a tape of the '75 Houston show surfaces. Only Stairway and Black Dog are subpar. I have EVSD's "Rampaging Cajun", which I believe is the one you said your store had. P.S. If your record store doesn't have the Godfatherecords version of the 3-11-75 Long Beach sbd, then Baton Rouge moves up to the #1 slot and Long Beach moves down to the #3 or 4 slot; unless there's another speed-corrected version that they have. 3. June 7, 1977, New York: Now if your store did have the Godfatherecords version of the 3-11-75 sbd, and you got that first, then to avoid 1975 fatigue, you could get this second and then get the '75 Baton Rouge show. The version I have is Empress Valley's "Magical Sound Boogie", and once you get used to the dry sound of the '77 sbds, you'll find this is a pretty good show, especially if you prefer the '77 setlists to '75. It's the opening night of a 6 show stand at Madison Square Garden, and from all accounts the atmosphere was electric. Of course, that's the one thing sbds can't capture: atmosphere. But you do get great versions of IMTOD, Achilles and the acoustic set in sbd sound. No Quarter includes Nutrocker. Only Kashmir and Rock n Roll fall apart, and surprise surprise, neither was Jimmy's fault. Jones and Bonzo were at fault in Kashmir and Plant came in too soon in Rock and Roll. Another drawback is that there are gaps and cuts in the sbd tape. But all in all, an above average 1977 show from the run of Madison Square Garden shows, from which NO decent quality audience tape exists. LA had Mike Millard; where was New York's equivalent? 4. May 14, 1973, New Orleans: As noted before, you got the date wrong for this show. My version of this show is Godfatherecords "The Drag Queen of New Orleans", which is how Plant introduces Bonham before Moby Dick. It's a typical sounding 1973 sbd, maybe better in some spots(Jonesey's keyboards really come through in No Quarter and Jimmy's guitar does have that wondrous 73 tone), with some, but not all, of the gaps patched with an average audience tape. In fact, the opening two minutes of the show is the audience tape...the sbd doesn't kick in until the middle of Rock n Roll. But worse, Communication Breakdown cuts out before the end...right when the band was getting into a funky groove. So all in all, a decent early-US leg 1973 show, but not as essential as the other shows on your list, so I would wait until you got the others before you got this show. As usual with a Godfatherecords release, you get excellent packaging and photos(for way cheaper than EVSD and other labels) coupled with the nonsensical musings of Paul DeLuxe. 5. March 14, 1975, San Diego: You mentioned "Conspiracy Theory", which is EVSD's release of the sbd from the heretofore unknown SECOND San Diego show of March 14, 1975. Alas, I just don't find it a good show, so I rarely feel like putting it on. For one thing, it suffers by coming between the AMAZING 3-12-75 Long Beach show and the Seattle/Vancouver bacchanals. And it's not complete...it's missing the WWL/Crunge/Theremin/Black Dog encore, which often was one of the highlights of the tour. I would recommend this for completists only. The cover features a photo from one of the Earl's court shows, not San Diego. There you have it kashmiran...hope it's of some use to you.
  17. I've never seen the booklet for the Complete Studio Recordings on sale separately...only the booklet from the first 4-disc box set from 1990. So if your search through ebay and the internet proves fruitless, finding someone who can scan you a copy might be your best bet.
  18. Wow...you could knock me over with a feather. I HATED that Arthur's Theme song...and just about everything else Christopher Cross did in the '80's. Just goes to show...you learn something new every day. What's next? Barry Manilow filling in on keyboards with the Grateful Dead? Ann Murray subbing for Grace Slick?
  19. Oh, I'm past the point of caring what people think of me...especially people on the internet, where the chance of ever meeting is pretty small. Besides, if I was worried about what other people thought, I never would have become a fan of Led Zeppelin in the first place.
  20. You'll get no argument from me. As I've previously said, two of the major musical moments in my life was hearing Led Zeppelin and the Velvet Underground for the first time. Those bands both remain among my favourites, and there's a good chance that if a current band is influenced by either one, then I will give them a listen and more often than not like them; ie. Television, the Stooges, Jane's Addiction, Soundgarden, Sonic Youth, Stereolab, My Bloody Valentine, R.E.M., Autolux, No Age, White Stripes. One of my pet projects I'm working on for the board is a sort of buyer's guide to the Velvet Underground.
  21. I know. My post also was more in response to duckman's original hypothetical question and perpetualmotions post.
  22. Thanks SuperDave! It's all good so far. What happened was last December they found a blood clot in my leg and I ended up spending Dec-Jan in the hospital. After I was released, I still had to take Coumadin for my blood, and every two weeks I go back to the hospital for tests to make sure my blood's ok. The initial prescription was that I would have to be on the coumadin for 6 to 8 months...which meant no alcohol or green leafy veggies(spinach, broccoli, green beans, asparagus) during that time. Today the doc said I could stop taking the coumadin on June 10. Can't wait to have green veggies again! Anyway, sorry...this is the what show are you listening to? thread...not what ails you? thread.
  23. On disc 3 now of Rampaging Cajun...Dazed & Confused just finished. Which points up another reason why the second leg of 1975 was better than the first leg: they replaced "San Francisco" in D & C, with the far better, far moodier and spookier "Woodstock" interlude. Another thing about the 1975 Dazed's...the last 3 to 5 minutes of the song often has some of Jimmy's best soloing of the night.
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