Here's a brief glimpse of the Loonacy that night! Keith Moon shows up around the 6-minute mark. The 1977 LA Forum shows occurred just as I finished my freshman year of high school. A few months later, as my sophomore year began, I met a guy who had a live tape of this show; a friend made it for him and he said if I gave him a blank he could have a copy made as well. So the next day I gave him a blank Maxell 90-minute tape, and a few days later, I had my first bootleg copy of this concert. The tape only had about half the show, and the songs weren't in order, but it sounded good. The running order of my tape went as follows: Side A: Sick Again, Nobody's Fault But Mine, Over the Hills and Far Away, Since I've Been Loving You, Ten Years Gone. Side B: Battle of Evermore, Going to California, White Summer/Black Mountain Side, Kashmir, Trampled Underfoot. One of my teachers would play music in class and would let us pick the music periodically, so one day I brought my bootleg tape. Halfway through, they asked the teacher to take it off...they wanted Fleetwood Mac instead. Around Christmas time of 1977, I was making the rounds of the local record stores, when I found the Holy Grail...the original Dragonfly albums that obviously were the source for my tape. I could tell, because Part One of "For Badgeholders Only" matched the running order of my cassette exactly. Here are the original bootleg vinyl albums from the June 23, 1977 LA Forum show that were released on the Dragonfly label...and I still have the vinyl. They were $20 each...each was a double album, so it was 8 total sides of wax. Fast forward to today. I had always assumed that Mike Millard's tape was the source for these albums, but I just read somewhere that it is NOT Mike Millard's tape; that it is a DIFFERENT source that was used for the Dragonfly "For Badgeholders Only" albums. Is this true? If so, then it accounts for why every cd release of Mike Millard's tape of June 23 has never, IMO, sounded as good as the Dragonfly vinyl records.

Have I seen any movies? Oh yeah, about 20 or so the past few weeks. The L.A. Film Festival ended tonight, and I will write a major film wrap-up post soon, but there is ONE MUST-SEE FILM I want to share with everyone...it just opened this past weekend in LA and other select cities. Hopefully it will come to your town. Those of you living outside the U.S. and Canada are probably out of luck. It is a documentary and those rarely make it overseas, so you'll have to wait for the dvd. The movie is called "BUCK", and it tells the story about this remarkable guy, Buck Brannaman, who specializes in training horses non-violently. He learned from one of the original horse-whisperers. Here's the trailer for the film:

Wow, thanks for those kind words of support, MissMelanie. I hope I can live up to them. Truth be told, I'm sure I've flown off the handle a few times here. I seem to recall, one time in 2008, when the election campaign that year had me at wit's end, I wrote a nasty rant about the South. It was rash and in poor taste...and one of the Belles here...either LakeofShadows, Electrophile or Aquamarine...set me straight. Back to spanking. I think it needs to be made clear to some, that there is a difference between 5 quick whacks on the bum with your hand and being beaten with a whip, tire iron, belt buckle, etc. Nobody here is advocating the kind of severe beating that was mentioned in the news article. There is a difference between a disciplinary spanking and child abuse. I saw a GREAT DOCUMENTARY tonight about this kind of horse-whisperer dude named Buck Brannaman. The film is aptly titled, "Buck", and it is a MUST-SEE! Especially if you love horses. In the movie was this great line that stuck with me and I felt was apropos to this thread: "Discipline and encourage, not discipline and discourage." Good night.

Join the line, buster!

Sad to say Cammie, but there seems to be a lot of dreck in that line-up. Van Halen seems to be the best bet for a good-time...but that depends on the state Eddie and Dave are in, and how you feel about Michael Anthony being kicked out. Alice Cooper and Danzig used to give pretty good shows in that cartoonish-horror-rock vein, but they are both long-in-the-tooth, and I haven't seen either of them in years. Stay away from Hole, as it is NOT Hole but Courtney Love and a bunch of hired hands. Without Patty, Eric and Melissa, it's just the Courtney show and it ain't pretty...it's a sham. Bad Religion is okay if you like grey and boring punk rock...again, these guys have been around FOREVER. And you mean to tell me the Cro-Mags and Sisters of Mercy are STILL around? Sheesh, at a certain age you just look silly...just ask Robert Smith. And stay far far away from the dismal likes of Sum 41 and All Time Low and the Hollywood Undead! Blech! I haven't seen so many glum and scowling faces since high school. Most of these bands are nothing more than glorified bar-bands. Literally, in the case of Steel Panther. These guys have been playing the Viper Room in LA for years. Guess it finally paid off...didn't realize they could scrounge up the airfare to Oz. Are they even known in Australia? And will Aussies get the joke? For Steel Panther is like a spoof, a parody of 80's hair-metal. As such, they are one of the few bands on the bill where you are guaranteed to have fun, so I recommend you and your girlfriends check 'em out. It'll provide a nice antidote to the rest of the po-faced angst on the bill.

This sounds like one of those latter-day Santana bore-a-thons with all the rehashing of old songs with special guests. And the bonus remixes sound even more painful. Dubstep's time ended about 5 minutes ago. I'm serious, ENOUGH with the dubstep!

I've been ignoring this thread for as long as it has been around...but now that it has been bumped up again and obviously been heating up the last few days, I'll dip my toe in, if only to defend Brad, as he was the one who bumped up the thread in the first place. As Brad was merely pointing out a news story about a spanking gone too far, I don't see any problem with his posting it, and applaud him for actually taking the time to do a search of the topic instead of cluttering up the board with redundant threads. More people should follow his example. Of course, when I saw this Spanking thread pop up the first time, my first assumption was that it was about sexual-spanking, and while there have been the odd posts about that, I haven't seen anything that warrants shutting the thread down. Silver Rider, I like you and enjoy most of your posts, but on this I gotta disagree. I haven't seen any "threatening" post and whether to spank or not to spank a child is a valid subject for discussion...especially for the people that are parents here. If the thread bothers you so much, do what Deborah suggests and ignore it...they have an "ignore user" function here, maybe there is an "ignore thread" button, too. I know it sounds like we're all ganging up on you, but you obviously have a strong personal reaction to the subject of spanking, so maybe this isn't a thread you should spend time in anymore. But to say it should be shut down is a tad extreme, in my opinion. As for my 2 cents...I was abused as a kid, but I think "normal" spankings are useful in some cases, and think it is well within a parent's right to discipline their child. It is up to the parent to know their children and how each responds to punishment. As has been noted, some respond to grounding or restrictions, others need the odd spanking to get the point across. And I am with Steve, I will not countenance any verbal abuse and hitting a child in public. That's just bullying...and I hate bullys.

Oh come on! Nobody has any ideas on what that jam is or what song it's based on? To save you time, I'll even tell you when in the clip it starts...around the 5:48 mark. So come on all you trainspotters and experts in all things Zeppelin and/or music, help me out!

No. What you are hearing is Jones playing the bass pedals with his feet whilst playing the keyboards. Multi-tasking as it were...but then, Jonesey's talented like that. I dare say if they'd put a strumpet upon his keyboard he'd have played her, too.

Virginia Parker.

It's Breakfast @ Wimbledon, as usual. It is 8:27am local time in Los Angeles. I'm eating waffles with strawberries and whipped cream while watching Serena Williams finish off Kirilenko. Okay...Serena won. Now ESPN2 is showing the end of Federer vs. Nalbandian. And.....Federer wins!

^^^ Wow...Neil and the boys look like they've gotten some SUN! Silver, I think you meant that for the Soul thread.

6' 7"

Coda. Not just because of its unevenness but because the album's mere existence reminds me of Bonham's death and the end of the band.

Zoso. Or Led Zeppelin IV.

When the Levee Breaks.

Tea For One. Followed by Royal Orleans(wished they would have added RO to the setlist in 77), and Achilles Last Stand.

Good Times, Bad Times. As it opened the first album, it wasn't just a great album opener, it was a career opener.

Whole Lotta Love. The RIFF. Pure animal sexuality. And that amazing psychedelic freak-out in the middle. Oh, and the cough at the beginning.

John Paul Jones, as he seems to have come through relatively unscathed. Although, if I was Jimmy Page I could go back and fix How the West Was Won and The Song Remains the Same reissues.

Of the Led Zeppelin songs listen, I had to go with Misty Mountain Hop. I just immediately picture Golden Gate park packed with hippies whenever I hear that song.

Rain Song. Pure mellow bliss. I have a problem with SIBLY being on the list. SIBLY is an ELECTRIC BLUES. It is dramatic, intense, extremely emotional...it is the antithesis of a ballad. You would not sing this to a child or a loved one as a lullaby.

1973...it was still relatively concise, Jimmy and Jones were still nailing the riff...the tympani addition worked great, and without the over-flanging that marred the 75 and 77 solos for me...the way the lights reflected off and thru Bonzo's Vistalites...and most important, the fact I got to sing happy birthday to Bonham after one of his Moby Dick's in 73.

49 in July. Surprised to see that 12-20 is the largest group. Way to go, kids!

For those who couldn't afford the nearly $300 tickets, here are some various clips from the Wiltern Theatre show and elsewhere: I Am A Child Broken Arrow Mr. Soul