"open my front door...hear my back door slam...you must have one of them new-fangled back-door man"

Actually you did start the fire...with your incessant yelling(do you always have to post in bold all caps?) about how the 80's were crap. Not only on this thread but on another one in the ramble on section you go on and on about the 80's being crappy, wimpy, all about disco Saturday Night Fever and Studio 54, etc. etc. So not only are you repetitive...but you're incorrect. Saturday Night Fever came out in late 1977 and it definitely was a hit and pushed disco in the mainstream consciousness. 1978-1979 was disco's high point with the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack and albums by Chic and Donna Summer. But by 1980 the writing was on the wall...disco was on the wane. Of course there was the July 12, 1979 Disco Demolition Night at Chicago Whitesox Stadium. But the two things that helped drive a nail in disco's coffin in 1980 was the twin failures of the movies "Xanadu" and "Can't Stop the Music". And by the end of the year everyone had forgotten about Saturday Night Fever as "Urban Cowboy" was Travolta's newest hit and the craze swept the nation as bars from San Francisco to Washington DC installed mechanical bulls. So you see, as the 80's began disco had ceased to be a force, so for you to continuously paint the 80's as a decade of disco is misguided. Actually what is really amusing about these various "music isn't as good as it used to be" is that people say this every decade. The 70's are looked upon as a golden age now but I can assure you that as early as 1973 Rolling Stone and other mags were running articles about how stagnant and boring the rock scene was and that the 70's were dead compared to the exciting 60's. And I guarantee you that in 10 years time people will be moaning about how the 2020's suck and why aren't there any bands as good as the ones in the 2000's, like Radiohead and the White Stripes. Of course the scary thing is that someone will actually be nostalgic for the insipid likes of Train and Maroon 5.

In the 70's there was one music magazine I read religiously from cover-to-cover and that was CREEM. I would also read Crawdaddy, Trouser Press, Rolling Stone, Downbeat, NME, Melody Maker, and Circus on a semi-regular basis. Later in the 70's the punk zines started to appear and those were always fun reads and some are now quite valuable. But Creem was my rock n roll bible from 1969 to about 1986 when it started running out of steam. Today MOJO is the one magazine I always make sure to get every month and read every page. Good writers(including some old Creem vets), a large and varied review section, a good mix between historical and new music, and a free cd with every issue makes Mojo the one essential read for any music fan. The other music mags I still peruse with varying degrees of devotion are Uncut, Paste, Downbeat, Gramophone, BBC Music, HotPress, American Songwriter, Record Collector, Relix, Q, NME, The Wire, Spin, Filter, Oxford American Music Issue, and yes, even Rolling Stone...although more for its current affairs reportage than its musical content.

Man, things have been so hectic that my mind has been elsewhere...for the first time in YEARS I didn't fill out a bracket. Just don't follow the college basketball season like I used to do. All I know is that the PAC 10 was down this year. I was hoping Belmont and Gonzaga would go farther (further?) than they did. And while I usually don't root for Duke, after what Jalen Rose said in that self-aggrandizing Fab Five film, I will cheer for Duke to squash Michigan today.

Of all the times it had to rain here in Los Angeles, Mother Nature chose last night to send clouds and rain our way, negating any chance for us Angelenos to see the closest moon in 18 years.

Double amen. I'm gonna go out and hug a tree in your honour.

Amen, sister.

For the newbies... First time hearing Led Zeppelin

Here's an all-girl band, The Daughters of Eve, singing "Help Me Boy", which is a female version of "Help Me Girl", a song recorded by the Animals and the Outsiders: Another hot one from the Lost Agency: But, of all the great songs and bands that are on this collection, HERE IS THE #1 REASON YOU SHOULD BUY/DOWNLOAD THIS COMPILATION-The Foggy Notions "Need A Little Lovin'" Well, that's just great...it's no longer on youtube. It was on the other day, but now it's been pulled due to copyright issues for some reason. Too bad, as it was my favourite discovery of the whole set. With a propulsive bassline and jangling, shimmering(almost shoegazey-like) guitar riffs and sweet vocal harmonies, this was a song the Stone Roses would have KILLED to have. And get this, the average age of the band was 16! Imagine being in high school and already having this song under your belt...man, talk about a trail of panties. Apparently, they only cut this one single...and since I can't post "Need A Little Lovin'", here's the flipside, "Take Me Back and Hold Me"...but it's nowhere near as good as "Need A Little Lovin'":

Yeah, I LOVE Sundazed...along with Proper, Ace, Charly and Bear Records, they put out some of the most amazing and rare stuff. There were a few other songs I wanted to put in my earlier post, but I had exceeded my file limit. So, now that Kiwi Zep Fan has had a chance to catch up, here are some more nuggets from the Sundazed 2131 South Michigan Avenue set: First up, a couple tracks with some PUMPING BASSLINES. Well, I wanted to post Oscar and the Majestics "Soul Finger" but there isn't one on youtube, so here's some cool fuzzed-out ravers instead... More fuzz goodness to come...

No need to worry that you're steppin' on toes. But maybe you could tell me which bands on my list do you feel AREN'T an 80's band?

Well, if I bought the record and saw the band at Raji's or Club Scream in the 80's, then they're an 80's band to me.

Another one from Texas...welcome to the board, Cindy! Saw you visited my profile, and as I didn't recognize your name, thought I'd do a little checking myself and that is when I saw you were a new member. Well, if you like Led Zeppelin, I'm sure we'll cross paths on the board soon. Hope you enjoy your time here.

Thanks for posting this...never was a big Cliff Richard fan, but the link between Jet Harris and Jimmy and JPJ is undeniable and not to be forgotten. And 71 is a reasonably long life...R.I.P. Jet.

Oh don't be so dramatic...and stop your weeping; this ain't the Miami Heat locker-room. I see...so then I must have HALLUCINATED Sonic Youth, The Swans, Big Black, Black Flag, X, Alley Cats, Cramps, Blasters, Gun Club, Southern Death Cult, Social Distortion, Descendents, Dead Kennedys, Flesh Eaters, Divine Horsemen, Circle Jerks, Fear, Flipper, Minutemen, Meat Puppets, Melvins, Dinosaur Jr., Green River/Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Gang of Four, Mission of Burma, Mekons, Feelies, XTC, R.E.M., Robyn Hitchcock/The Soft Boys, The Cure, Jesus & the Mary Chain, Cocteau Twins, This Mortal Coil, The Mighty Lemon Drops, My Bloody Valentine, Spacemen 3, Yo La Tengo, Pixies, Jane's Addiction, Thelonious Monster, 45 Grave, Fishbone, Busboys, Top Jimmy & the Rhythm Pigs, Tex & the Horseheads, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Dream Syndicate, Rain Parade, Opal, Kendra Smith, Bangles, Bad Brains, Steel Pulse, Public Enemy, Afrika Bambaataa, Beastie Boys, N.W.A., Run-DMC, Eric B. & Rakim, Steve Earle, Pogues, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Bauhaus, Crowded House, Kate Bush, Joan Jett, Go-Go's, Madonna, Prince, Husker Du, Replacements, House of Freaks, Violent Femmes, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Thomas Dolby, Gary Numan, Echo & the Bunnymen, U2, The Teardrop Explodes, Psychedelic Furs, Talk Talk, Human League, Yazoo, Depeche Mode, New Order, Nurse with Wound, The Smiths, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Iron Maiden, Guns 'n' Roses, Accept, Ministry, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sade, Peter Gabriel, Pere Ubu, the Fall, Cabaret Voltaire, Au Pairs, Altered Images, Pet Shop Boys, Kid Creole & the Coconuts, Cameo, Klaus Nomi, Wall of Voodoo, the db's, Concrete Blond, Mary's Danish, Southern Culture on the Skids, Chesterfield Kings, Oingo Boingo, Diamanda Galas, Lydia Lunch, Annie Lennox/Eurhythmics...and probably many more that I'm forgetting. Not to mention Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, who both released records in the 80's.

Whew...(breaths sigh of relief)...that is good news.

Doesn't something have to actually go away before you can miss 'em? I swear it sometimes seems like the 80's and 90's have never left. It used to be there was a lag time before nostalgia kicked in...like how it wasn't until the early 70's(helped by American Graffiti) that there was a 50's revival. Or the 1979-81 boom in all things Doors and 60's counterculture, which in turn led to the Paisley Underground. But, now with the internet and the 24/7 news cycle and the shortening of attention spans, there seems to be a current of nostalgia running all the time. I also love how people reduce whole decades to simplified cliche. Like one poster above who equated the 80's with light frothy John Hughes movies and the 90's with dark violent QT films. Well, the 80's had their share of dark twisted films...does the name David Lynch ring a bell? Blue Velvet? Wild at Heart? Elephant Man? And I'm pretty sure the 90's had their fair share of light frothy teenage movies.

Any news? Hope this is a "no news is good news" situation...

I enjoy both the 21 and 22(love the Walk Don't Run intro) Forum shows but IMO they pale in comparison to later shows like Orlando and Toronto mainly because the ending of Celebration Day wasn't as developed early on in the 1971 tour as it was say in September and October. Celebration Day SLAYS during the latter stages of the 71 tour.

Okay, so I usually am the first to complain about whatever stupid poll Rolling Stone or NME runs about "greatest this or that", but I realize that there are many here, especially the younger generations, who do love to show their love for Led Zeppelin by voting in whatever poll is happening at the moment. Well, kiddos, that moment now happens to be at the sports network, ESPN, where one of their radio hosts, Colin Cowherd, has made up a Rock Bracket much in the manner of the NCAA Basketball brackets. It appears the voting has been going on for some time as they are in the 3rd round already. Led Zeppelin has made it past Nickelback(WTF!) and the Allman Brothers and are now doing battle with Metallica. Queen is duking it out with the Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam is trying to upset the Beatles(as if) and it's the Mods(The Who) vs. the Psychedelic Freaks(Pink Floyd) along with several other battles...AC/DC vs. Nirvana; Guns n Roses vs. Van Halen. Here's the link to the bracket(you will notice some curious omissions...Nickelback, 311 and Creed, but NO Radiohead, Yes or CCR?)where you can vote and see the results of the earlier rounds: ESPN's Herd Rock Brackets I should think Led Zeppelin wouldn't need much help in defeating Metallica but you never know about sports audiences...the demographic probably skews towards that Metallica/G n R/AC/DC crowd. So if you like participating in these things...get out and vote. Vote early and often. I gotta think Led Zeppelin makes the semi-finals at least.

It wasn't just the acid he contributed to society that made him a pioneer...as the man who designed the Dead's sound system he deserves to be recognized as the man who had a lot to do with the improvements in concert sound systems during the '70's. Goodbye Bear. R.I.P.

This is welcome news. I have the EVSD 4-cd set Firecrackers Explosion which contains both nights at the Forum: August 21 & 22, 1971. If the latest is an upgrade from that, I would be happy indeed. Now, if only there was an upgrade(possibly a soundbaord?) of the Sept. 19, 1970 evening show at Madison Square Garden!

Another good one is "Ain't It Hard: Sunset Strip Sound of Viva", a single cd/vinyl set of rockers from Snuff Garrett's Viva label based in L.A. Bands include The Second Helping(which features a young Kenny Loggins), Leathercoated Minds, The Sound Sandwich, Gypsy Trips, and others. Here are a few songs from the comp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqfLv5FYy8c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNGbnG1j1fY