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  1. Hahaha, yeah we're out here, or at least I'm out here. Don't know if there are that many Jane's fans here as when I posted clips from their secret show I went to last November(their first with the original line-up in 17 years), there was zero response. Which is a shame, as Jane's is one of the few bands since the demise of Zeppelin in 1980 to even come close to sounding like they got what Zep was about(unlike all the stupid hair-metal bands of the 80's) and while sounding similar to Zeppelin still managed to put their own unique spin on the sound. You would think anyone liking Led Zeppelin would find much to enjoy in Jane's oeuvre. Most of the people I met at Jane's shows (saw them over 40 times between 1986-1991) were also Zepheads. And while there wasn't and never will be anything like a Zeppelin concert, when Jane's were "on" they could be scary close as hypnotic as a Zep concert. Forget the various "reunions" of the past 10 years...THIS, the true Jane's lineup of Perry, Dave, Stephen and, FINALLY!, Eric is the one to see!
  2. The following news/press release was sent out by the Thin Lizzy - A Rock Legend website to various rock websites and radio stations: Thin Lizzy – Still Dangerous March 9 The independent website Thin Lizzy - A Rock Legend recently saw a huge increase in traffic anticipating the forthcoming release of 'Still Dangerous'. The official press releases made this the most anticipated album in many years for the bands supporters, with promises of an album featuring the "raw, unadulterated, untouched sound of Thin Lizzy". This read like a dream to Lizzy supporters especially given that the show intended for release was one of the legendary gigs from the Tower Theatre, Philadelphia in 1977. Many fans will know that those gigs were used as the backbone for Lizzy's classic album 'Live and Dangerous'. Finally this was the chance to quash all the tales of excessive overdubbing and re-recording. However on first listening to 'Still Dangerous' fans were immediately struck by the lack of material, several expected tracks were missing and songs were clearly out of sequence. Whilst not seeking to discourage people from buying what has to be an essential Lizzy album the members of Rock Legend voted overwhelmingly via a poll to express their desire to put the record straight regarding 'Still Dangerous'. After painstakingly analysing the tracks and comparing them to the 'Live and Dangerous' album takes and the tracks recorded for The King Biscuit Flower Hour that feature on the Wolfgangs Vault website an astounding conclusion was reached. Still Dangerous' actually features material from two different gigs recorded at the Tower Theatre in Philadelphia on the 20th and 21st of October 1977. Below is a breakdown of the album track by track: 1. Soldier Of Fortune 21/10/77 2. Jailbreak 21/10/77 3. Cowboy Song 20/10/77 KBFH show. Same take as Live and Dangerous. 4. Boys Are Back In Town 20/10/77 KBFH show. Same take as Live and Dangerous 5. Dancing In The Moonlight 20/10/77 KBFH show. Sax solo cut at start and fix to start of guitar solo 6. Massacre 20/10/77 KBFH show. Same take as Live and Dangerous 7. Opium Trail 20/10/77 KBFH show. Same take as Killers Live EP 8. Don't Believe A Word 21/10/77 9. Baby Drives Me Crazy 21/10/77 10. Me And The Boys 21/10/77 Bonus tracks only available as download outside of Japan: 11. Bad Reputation 20/10/77 KBFH show. Drum solo heavily edited, Scott Gorham’s solo also edited. Same take as featured on the Killers Live EP 12. Emerald 21/10/77 Same take as Live and Dangerous With promises of further releases from the archives it is hoped that Thin Lizzy Productions Ltd will take on board the issues raised over 'Still Dangerous'. There's real enthusiasm, passion and knowledge amongst Lizzy supporters, the opportunity to involve those supporters in future should not be overlooked. We feel sure that Thin Lizzy Productions Ltd want to release albums to be proud of and that will stand the test of time, albums on a par with 'Live and Dangerous', albums that will continue the legacy of the rock legend that was Philip Lynott and his band Thin Lizzy. We want to help them achieve that aim. Thin Lizzy - A Rock Legend www.thin-lizzy.info What now follows are my own comments...when this cd release was first announced I was through the roof excited as I count Thin Lizzy one of the great unsung bands of the 70's...saw Thin Lizzy 4 times in the 70's and each time they rocked the house. After reading the above info I felt a little disappointed that they just couldn't leave well enough alone and release the whole show as is unedited. But then, that's how I often feel whenever Jimmy puts out chopped and edited "official" live Led Zeppelin stuff. But hey, it's Thin Lizzy...I'll still get it as it is prime 1977 Lizzy and therefore is sure to KICK ASS! And if you're a young'un or a newb who has yet to get into Thin Lizzy, what the hell are ya' waiting for?!? You're missing out on one of the primo rock pleasures of the 70's. Where to start? Well, you can't go wrong with "Jailbreak"(1976) and then "Bad Reputation" (1977). Also get their dvd "Live and Dangerous" from their 1977 show at London's Rainbow Theatre. God bless the late great Phil Lynott!
  3. Hmmmm, all this raving about the Winston Remasters has me wondering... My history of "Listen to this Eddie" is as follows: First, I got a 3rd or 4th gen cassette copy back in high school from a friend. Then, I got the vinyl double album from the TMoQ label that only had the show from TSRTS to TYG. My first cd copy was the Silver Rarities Master Series 3cd set. Then, around 2004 I got the Genuine Masters 2DVD-A "Watch and Listen to This Eddie" and was so blown away by the sound I thought that was it...I would not need another version of "Listen to This Eddie" as long as I lived unless Jimmy decided to put out an official release of the June 21, 1977 gig. Ahhh, but just last year I could not resist the clarion call of "LTTE" and while looking to plug in holes in my collection, came across Empress Valley's set of the whole week of Zeppelin's 1977 LA Forum shows. Of the 5 Forum concerts I saw, only the June 25 and 26 were still missing from my collection, so I got those, and figured what the hell, one more "LTTE" couldn't hurt. But now I am reading all this buzz about these Winston Remasters and I just want to know if it is really THAT much of a sound upgrade from what I already have?
  4. Quite fascinating, and as a fan of "Heavy Metal Parking Lot"(the dvd also has bonus features such as "Neil Diamond Parking Lot" and other howlers), I can't wait to see Jeff's documentary on this show. Given the often haphazard nature of touring back in those days, I wouldn't be surprised if more previously unknowned concerts suddenly popped up ala the second San Diego gig from March 14, 1975.
  5. And I'll quadruple that! And I am also a big fan of Susan Whitall, a writer from the great classic era of Creem magazine in the 70's.
  6. Depending on the source, there are anywhere between 57,000 to 68,000 U.S. military personnel stationed in Germany at the moment. I was stationed in Nürnberg, Germany from 1982-1985 and I have nothing but fond memories from my time there. The people were fantastic and the country beautiful. And there was only ONE McDonalds in Nürnberg then, and no other fast food joints. Unlike the sad state of affairs now. As for concerts, I saw plenty there and while there definitely was a large presence of American military at some(mostly the metal shows) shows, I don't recall them being any drunker or unruly than the Germans. Judas Priest/Ted Nugent in 1984, Def Leppard @ Erlangen in 1983, Iron Maiden @ Stuttgardt in '84, various metal fests including the Monsters of Rock '84 @ Nürnberg (at the very place Hitler had his rallies) with AC/DC, Van Halen, Ozzy, Gary Moore, Motley Crüe...all of these had enthusiastic crowds with none of the lameness exhibited by the German crowds on the Zeppelin boots. In some ways they were more enthusiastic than US crowds, cheering for encores long after most American crowds would have gone home. I also enjoyed the German(hell, I experienced the same in England and France so maybe it is a European trait) ritual of singing songs...football songs, beer songs, whatever...at the end of shows.
  7. I was at his post-Oscar bash last Sunday at the Avalon Palace...the man can still bring it...singing, guitar-shredding, dancing, cool funky jams, the works! Better Prince than Steven Tyler, Miles Kennedy, Scott Weiland or any other bozo I've seen mentioned as a possible singer for Page and Jones and Jason.
  8. Here's a quarter... ...buy yourself a clue. Prince is definitely NOT "yucky". And not all rappers are "crappy".
  9. YES! YES!!YES!!! Thank you Alison for posting this article. While I didn't agree with all his points, he did get to the crux of the matter, which is that Led Zeppelin, of all the hard rock/metal groups, was the funkiest of the bunch, which is one of many reasons why they stood out from the pack. But while I do think the remaining members need to think outside-the-box, it is no small point to mention that a significant measure of Zepp's funk came from the nimble hands and feet(especially that glorious right foot of his!) of Bonzo. And while Jason, from all acounts, acquitted himself nicely at the 2007 O2 gig, I don't know that he possesses his father's uncanny sense of beats, timing, and just plain BADASS FUNK! Just listen to those amazing funky workouts in the "Dazed & Confused" jam from the late 1971 shows, which would incorporate the "Theme from Shaft"...or any of the Communication Breakdowns that built the funky jam on the Isley Brothers "It's Your Thing" riff. That speaks of a band, who not only had the technique, but also the open mind and ears to take in music from all walks of life. This is a flaw in so many of the hard rock/metal bands that came in Zeppelin's wake: they just listened to Zep, Sabbath, Deep Purple, Aerosmith or whatever and so missed out on the Motown/Stax/James Brown influence on Zeppelin's sound. If you've listened to any number of Zeppelin's live shows, you know how with the flick of a wrist and a hammer of the right foot, Bonzo could change the groove of a song on a dime...he had a seemingly unlimited store of grooves in his head. Does Jason Bonham have that ability?
  10. Your radio station was definitely playing a clip from the late great "Freaks and Geeks", one of the greatest tv shows ever. "Dazed and Confused" doesn't make sense as a possible answer as that movie was set in 1976 and obviously Bonham was still alive then. I believe it is from either the pilot or the next episode after that. Jason Segel(Nick) is talking to Linda Cardellini(Lindsay) about how bummed he is about Bonham passing away. The series is set in Detroit and when it begins it is the fall of 1980. If you were too young or clueless to catch it when it first aired, you can thank your lucky stars you get a second chance now that it is on dvd. Rent it, buy it, order it from netflix, do whatever you have to but by all means you have to see this show! Epic series...and just like most of the great ones, it died an early death, thanks to the idiots at the network. So many awesome scenes and quotable lines. The whole cast was full of great kids who would go on to other things, but for me, aside from the hot Linda Cardellini, my fave of the bunch was Martin Starr's scene-stealing "Bill Haverchuck". LONG LIVE BILL!!!
  11. No, but there are clips of the show on youtube...I think I even posted some clips here on the board...just search Jane's Addiction. I was in too much a rush to get down to the restaurant early enough to get in, that I just forgot about bringing my recording gear or a camera.
  12. Ahhhh, what goes around comes around. It was opening for Jane's Addiction on their winter 91 tour and then later that summer playing on the first Lollapalooza that gave NIN their first wide concert exposure. I feel the others coments about Dave, re his Hollywood sell-out. Much prefer the old 'young' Dave, the Dave without the tattoos and goatee, when his hair was long and wild. That said, I did see one of the original JA's recent 'secret' shows at the El Cid last November and it was almost like old times. Having Eric Avery back truly makes it special...a completely different beast than the last couple of wan 'reunions'. I still crank up "Nothing's Shocking", "Ritual" or my Jane's boots every so often, and it still gives me a kick like few other bands of their time did. A strange brew, indeed.
  13. No it isn't. Jefferson Starship is...or make that Starship. Oh, toss in Asia and Journey, too. Seriously, 'Classic Rock' doesn't really exist...it's just a term created by suits to market radio. In fact, you could probably trace the beginnings of the decline of radio to the day the phrase 'classic rock radio' was first uttered.
  14. Yep, I remember Plant saying it both nights at the Greek that tour. As for "Eddie"...I never for a moment believed "Listen to this Eddie" referred to Eddie Van Halen as the comments Eddie made regarding the deteriation of Jimmy's playing weren't made until years after the bootleg's appearance. That leaves Eddie Kramer and a friend of Mike Millard's named Eddie. Weighing all the evidence and possible scenarios, I am going to say that I am 99.9% sure that "Eddie" is a friend of Mike's. I remember seeing a photo of the cassette box that Mike sent out...it just seems more likely that Mike would send a tape to his friend, who just happened to be named Eddie. Then, in the 80's as more copies spread out and the bootleg companies flooded the marketplace with cd's, I think people just naturally assumed the name "Eddie" was referring to either of the more famous Eddies: Van Halen and Kramer. I just don't see Mike sending a tape to Eddie Kramer...how did he know that Kramer wouldn't track him down and call johnny law, forcing him to give up his tapes? I am sure it makes the story more "intriguing" or "cool" if it was Eddie Van Halen and/or Eddie Kramer that "Listen to this Eddie" was named after, but it just does not compute. Quick question re the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd Millard tapes...do they go by any specific title? I have two old vinyl record boots of the Stones July 1975 LA Forum shows called "The Rolling Stones: 1975 Tour of the Americas Part One" and "Charlie Watts and His Fabulous Rolling Stones: 1975 Tour of the Americas Part Two". They are obviously from an audience tape source and I was wondering if these were one of Mike Millard's tapes?
  15. Amen to that, Dirigible. As to what was better, '77 or '79/'80? Well, since I got to see them in '77 and didn't in '79/'80, obviously '77 hahaha. True, I do like the July 24 '79 Copenhagen show very much. But to this day, I still haven't listened to every date of the '80 Euro tour because the ones I have heard have sort of put me off that whole tour. Whereas I don't need to listen to '77 boots; I've got the memories of 5 ear-ravaging LA Forum shows rattling around my cranium as evidence that I would take 1977 over 1979/80 anyday. As to Luis Rey, I have 2 of his editions(I had no idea they were going for so much these days) and since I prefer reading books to reading a computer screen, they were handy guides. But I have to agree with others, his writing style kind of gets on your nerves with his endless repeating of certain adjectives and sometimes mischaracterizing certain concert's performance and atmosphere. To be fair, it might not be his fault...if he wrote the book in his native language it might have been poorly translated when published.
  16. The Smashing Pumpkins were an interesting little band when they started out in the late-80's. They were like a wanna-be Jane's Addiction when Gish came out, and even opened for Jane's. Saw them at an early club gig(English Acid, a club in West Hollywood at the time) and they definitely showed promise and looked forward to their next record. When Siamese Dream finally came out years later, Billy was in his Uncle Fester phase, having shaved his head. Lollapalooza and the grunge thing had already changed the scene(no more "hair metal") and Smashing Pumpkins were beneficiaries of the new times. Of course, it helped that there were a few slamming tunes on "Siamese Dream", and some cool guitar riffage. But, live in concert, I noticed a few disturbing trends...trends that would become full-blown problems by the next album, "Mellon coll...(oh I can't even be bothered to write it all out)". One was that Billy's voice frequently sucked in concert. Two was their apparent wish to become Pink Floyd, often turning their songs into long, meandering jams that halted whatever momentum the concert had built at that point. "Mellon" might have made a listenable single disc, but Billy's ego was out of control at this point; the Smashing Pumpkins were an IMPORTANT BAND and every important band HAS to do a DOUBLE-ALBUM! The show I saw them do at the Tibetan Freedom show in San Francisco's Golden Gate park in '96 was boring, but the absolute NADIR was reached on the Adore album and tour, which in LA was held at the Universal Amphitheatre. Excrutiatingly horrible. After that, I stopped paying attention to them. As for the reunion? For me, no James Iha, no D'Arcy, no Smashing Pumpkins. It's just the Billy Corgan band at this point...might as well be the Billy Squire band for all I care. Oh, and I know someone who was part of the reunion shows in San Francisco and apparently Billy's just a big a dick as always...maybe not quite Scott Stapp levels, but close.
  17. What would I do with $7,000? Go to Vegas and turn that $7,000 to $7,000,000 hahaha.
  18. Fuck Caylee Anthony. There, I said it. But c'mon, is there really a need for there to be a story on her EVERY SINGLE DAY!?! It's not like she's the only kid to be killed...hundreds and thousands die every day. Oh wait, I am supposed to care because she's WHITE and CUTE? And I blame her for the scourge of Nancy Grace...would Nancy Grace even have a reason to live if it weren't for the Caylee case? Next up, is that cow who had 8 kids, after already having 6, which makes a grand total of 14 kids...all with no visible means of support or income. Oh wait, she has us, the taxpayers to foot the bill. Well, fuck that! I rarely use this term but it is one that was meant especially for women like her...she is a "CUNT"! And she and whatever doctors/clinics allowed this to happen need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I am particularly embarrassed that this happened in my home state of California. Kill 'em all...they're just going to be a big tax burden all their lives. And since there is no way she is going to be able to provide quality love to her kids, most will probably grow up to have issues themselves and be a drain on the system.
  19. Trust me, I know the eligibility period of the grammys...I was being rhetorical not literal. I think it is one of the reasons that the grammys frequently look out of touch. They are honouring music that often was released almost 2 years ago. At least the oscars make their eligibility period the "calendar year", Jan. 1 to Dec. 31. There was even one grammy show where they awarded a grammy to Metallica for a song that was 3 or 4 years old...don't have the specifics at hand, will have to look it up...but it was pretty ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as Jethro Tull(the band, not the Zep board member) winning the inaugural best metal award in 1988.
  20. They did have a little help from the Dust Brothers. But yeah, I liked the Beasties from the start...saw them open for Madonna in ummm, was it 1985? 1986? To be honest, they were a little rough and raggedy then...you couldn't tell that they were about to become huge. Little girls and their mums in the crowd didn't know what hit them, haha. A bit like when Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkees. When Licensed to Ill dropped, it was pandemonium. Awesome Hollywood Palladium show with Fishbone in 1987 and with Run DMC at the Greek for 4 nights...beer all over the stage with all the boys slipping and sliding on the stuff...just wild and crazy hedonistic good-time party shows. Good times, man. One of the few rap acts that could deliver the goods live in concert. And if they made you feel old, then you probably were old, hehehe. What clinched the deal, though, was when they delivered "Paul's Boutique"...just an amazing platter from start to finish, and not what most people were expecting for the follow-up to "Licensed to Ill", especially their record company, Capitol. Which is why it didn't sell that well. But like the Velvet Underground, the people who did buy it were the right ones, and the influence of "Paul's Boutique" spread far and wide. There's an interesting site that annotated the lyrics to "Paul's Boutique"...here it is: Paul's Boutique annotated lyrics
  21. Fortunately, I was able to tivo the grammy's while I was out, so I could zip thru all the ads and crap. Nothing much to add to everyone else's grammy comments here. Just find it amusing that Plant wins 5 grammys in one night while during his Zeppelin heyday, they got zilch...and I LOVED that they got zilch. It was like a badge of honour having your band get dissed by the grammys. The Stones, Who, and countless others got passed over as well back in the 70's in favour of the likes of Paul Simon and all that easy-listening stuff. If I recall, the only Album of the Year winner of the 70's that I didn't mind winning was Stevie Wonder when he won like 3 or 4 in-a-row in the early 70's. Only the grammys could give an award in 2009 for 2008 to an album that came out in 2007. Record of the year..."Please Read the Letter"? How was it that THIS was the song nominated from that album...it's one of my least fave's from "Raising Sand". Somehow, in the future when I reflect back on 2008, I doubt that "Please Read the Letter" will come to mind. Anyone else catch Natalie Cole's slip of "Please Read THIS Letter"? And according to one poster, only 10 awards were actually handed out during the tv presentation...that is far fewer than they used to hand out in the old days. Performance-wise...only Plant/Krauss; Macca; and Radiohead stood out for me. Loved Radiohead using the USC band for their "15 Steps" performance! Just like when Fleetwood Mac used USC's band for "Tusk". FIGHT ON! Probably would have preferred if Plant/Krauss had done something like "When the Levee Breaks" for their performance instead of the somewhat predictable medley they did of "Rich Woman/Gone Gone Gone" My biggest gripe of the night, however, was the grammys not even mentioning Davy Graham during the eulogy section. FOR SHAME!!! But then, that's the grammys...it wouldn't be the grammys if there weren't a bunch of slights and fuck-ups. Of the three main awards shows: the oscars, the emmys and the grammys, the grammys by far are usually the worst and most middle-of-the-road affairs.
  22. Really? Why the need? Can't we wait a while...like more than a couple weeks before passing judgement? This ain't american idol or dancing with the stars. It used to be people waited at least 100 days...now it seems people are too ADD'led to wait even that long. Patience, please.
  23. HA! Bush still lags way behind Clinton in that regard.
  24. Strider

    Noooooo!

    Thank you Reggie...you are one of the few who seemed to "get it". The rest of you people who kept on with your knee-jerk bashing of Plant(and also Alison Krauss) could go to hell. As far as I was concerned, you cretins didn't deserve to have a reunion tour. I'm just relieved that Jimmy came to his senses and didn't go out on the road with that Myles Kennedy dude...you don't replace a man of the stature of Rapbert Plant with someone who is just a replacement Scott Stapp. Ugh, I shudder at the horror of what that would have been. Look, maybe there will come a time when Robert will want to get together with the guys; until then, everybody relax and to Jimmy and Jonesy: go off and do your own thing for a while. Jones had been doing this in the past with his various projects: Diamanda Galas, his solo records, producing with REM and Butthole Surfers and playing Bluegrass festivals. I was even lucky enough to see him drop in unannounced during a Watkins Family Hour(Sean and Sara from Nickel Creek...NOT to be confused with the horrid Nickelback) show at Largo one night...amongst the musical treats was an instrumental version of "Going to California", with Jon Brion and Jim Keltner in the band as well. SWEET!
  25. Anybody who doesn't understand why Guantanamo was a black mark on the U.S. doesn't really understand the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, or the Bill of Rights...in fact, has no understanding of any of the documents underpinning this country. Which is why I am not surprised that ole "W" himself approved of what was going on at Guantanamo...for if there is anyone more clueless than George W. Bush about what our country is about, I have yet to find them...unless it is some of the troglodytes here that still defend the little cur. Case in point: Larry King's execrable interview with George and Laura Bush just the other week before Obama took office. All through these last 8 years, Bush has made me wince when he would declare that he was just doing his job of protecting America from attack...that it was the President's most important job. And during the King interview, he said it again as defence of what he has done these past 8 years in office. Well, sorry Bushie, but that is NOT your job. Your sole, most important duty, as defined in the Constitution, and as defined in the very oath you take upon taking office, is as follows: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Note also that the phrase "so help me god" does not appear...that was ad libbed by Washington. But it is the Constitution the President swears to defend and protect...not the country. And a President who defends the country while wiping his ass with the Constitution does dishonour to the United States. Hence, the importance of Obama's statement in his Inaugural Address that: "As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our Founding Fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake." Oh, and to the bozos who think that any information gleaned from waterboarding and other tortures actually led to information that kept us from being attacked, every intelligence expert knows that is bullshit and that information gotten by means of torture usually proves useless. And to the Bush teabaggers who praise Bush for keeping us from attack after 9/11? I got an Alien-Defense-Potato I keep in my kitchen...it must work as I've yet to be kidnapped by Aliens.
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