I'm glad I opened up this can of worms, all of this heat and humidity has made it boring lately, and as MM rightly said, We are ENGLISH. My fa, andther fought in the Second world War for all of us,and so that we could have freedom of speech and opinion. I presume your relations did as well. Anyway to get back to it, who remembers the Kenny Everett American General... What was he called? .....Oh I remember, "General Bomb the Bastards", been relevant for many years.