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Dharmabum

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  1. Being from Long Island, NY, there's a local urban legend I remember hearing as a teenager that involved a limo pulling up to a kid and somebody with long, curly blond hair flipping a coin to the kid and saying, "here's a silver dollar from Led Zeppelin," before driving off. Supposedly this took place in Belle Terre, a wealthy community on the north shore and also right next to Port Jefferson where Foghat had a recording studio for a time. More recently, and possibly still, Ritchie Blackmore has lived in the area.
  2. No Dazed and Confused in the top 50?!
  3. Thanks for the post. I particularly enjoyed the historical context. Although a decade younger than you, I get very nostalgic for the era of American culture that gave rise to the beatniks and hippies. I was around in the 70s and experienced some of it but my musical awakening was more, I hate to say it, an MTV thing. At least I was able to find Zeppelin a few years later and reconnect with the days of my youth.
  4. I feel a bit guilty for missing this show. Just bad timing. I hope TCV come back soon! Now, if only Page will make a guest appearance at the Clapton/Beck concert next week!
  5. This article has the actual BBC Audition Report: http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6959424.ece
  6. This was the only issue I had at the Roseland, NY show. Although each song has it's own flavor, they did tend to blur together at times. Far less contrast than a Zeppelin concert for instance.
  7. Dazed and Confused is without doubt my favorite rock song of all time. The following piece, written as a young college student, was published by Zoso magazine (#63) in 1992. I still get a kick out of it so I thought I would share... Led Zeppelin, the only way to fly. When I need to blast off into the realm of fantasy, I book all my flights with Led Zeppelin. Each song carries me off to its own fantastic destination and is sure to bring me back home safely. For a trip into madness, there is nothing quite like "Dazed and Confused." This song is the epitome of a mental orgasm. The journey begins when my heartbeat starts to reflect the eerieness of the opening bass line. Suddenly, the echoing guitar slices through me with its otherworldly sound. As the singer bursts out with the tortured cry, "I've been dazed and confused for so long it's not true!," I immediately wonder if I am prepared for what is to come. The thunderous beat of the drums kick in and my body finds itself in spasm, moving like a jackhammer. I realize there is no turning back. These four musical elements begin to work together, intricately weaving emotions into a pattern of fluctuating intensity. The final and most devestating musical drive blooms into the melancholy of infinite silence. It is to this unfathomable depth that the invocation is directed. After the guitarist ritualistically introduces his magic wand, a violin bow, he proceeds to use it on his guitar. The sounds conjured up are at once terrifying and blissful. As the haunting music builds to its climax, my conception of reality liquefies and slips away from grip. All that remains is the presence of the infinite in which I am completely immersed. Mental orgasm. When the peak ends and the wand is put away, reality is given a chance to solidify. But wait! Before I can get a sure gripping, the band takes off into a frenzy of utter chaos. I find myself caught between worlds, bouncing off the cosmic riffs that are spewing out from the guitar. Flashing from reality to reality I can't stop thinking of my helplessness as the singer's primal cries vibrate through to the very core of my existence. Relief comes when I find my body moving in that jackhammer groove once again. This is a sure sign that the trip is almost over. A wicked smile comes over my face when I realize where the music has taken me. As the song comes to an end, I give a sigh of satisfaction. Led Zeppelin, the only way to fly.
  8. Short review of the Roseland Show: Extremely intense music. Definitively felt like I had my ass kicked afterwards. The music was unrelenting and harder than what I usually listen to. That said, it was a great show. Overall, my favorite song was Scumbag Blues, which I thought was magical. As were the moments when JPJ took the spotlight and injected some Zeppelin-esque grandeur into the mix. Definitively looking forward to the album and another show once I've become more familiar with the songs. Cheers!
  9. Can't wait for the show tonight at the Roseland Ballroom!! Will post a short review when I get a chance...
  10. Mistaken as proto-metal?! At the very least, Led Zeppelin's heavier songs were proto-metal. A 2005 documentary entitled "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey," a film I have not seen, offers the following flow-chart of metal genres: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Metal_Genealogy.jpg According to the chart, Led Zeppelin is classified as "early metal," a term that resonates with "proto-metal." Of course, this doesn't prove anything but I thought the concept of the flow-chart to be very interesting.
  11. I certainly can get my head into most of Zep's music and my hips as well! Thinking Misty Mountain Hop at the moment. Also, How Many More Times is considered one of the first real headbangers. It's all about the groove.
  12. I certainly appreciate your effort to get the debate back on track. As for historical context, I referenced the wikipedia article on heavy metal music several posts ago. This is a good starting place to frame the discussion in my opinion. What is refuted in the article is that "metal was never played until the late seventies / early eighties," which is one of the points I've tried to get across. Of course, it all depends on how you define metal but the general consensus is that it began in the mid to late 60s, with bands you mentioned, and was epitomized in a new way by Led Zeppelin and subsequently Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, and others. The heavy metal sound would then be reinvented several more times by bands that moved further and further away from the blues, such as Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metallica, etc. As to providing conclusive evidence that Led Zeppelin were a metal band, I've already agreed that they weren't; that was an oversimplification made by critics of the era. Nevertheless, they were the first band to present the emerging blues-based heavy metal sound of the late 60s as a significant part of their musical repertiore.
  13. You can't answer the question, "Zeppelin, are they metal?" without reference to historical context. As for me being rude, well take it as you may. I'm sorry you were offended by the word "hogwash." I presented my arguement with passion and called it like I saw it. It was never personal. But you and Otto insisted on making it otherwise and that's unfortunate.
  14. I made an initial arguement and have been defending it ever since. You disagree? That's fine by me.
  15. Why is it an "odious distinction?!" I think you're letting your personal bias color the debate. To discuss the history of heavy metal music and exclude Led Zeppelin would be inane.
  16. Naming the band Led Zeppelin, even after a Keith Moon reference, implies intentionality. Of course, you can argue which came first, the chicken or the egg, but it's hard to dispute Led Zeppelin's influence on the genre. As far as being there, I was a child in the 70s and, as I came of age toward the end of the decade and early 80s, Zeppelin was definitively associated with heavy metal music.
  17. The problem is, you define metal by today's standards. In the late 60s and early 70s, heavy metal was defined by bands like Zep, Sabbath, and Purple. The Hammer of the Gods was the lead in Led Zeppelin. Of course they played more than just heavy metal, as originally defined, but this was lost on most critics. As Page has said, it went right over their heads.
  18. Hogwash. I wasn't talking about what people made of their legacy. I'm saying there is a very real connection to what Zeppelin was about in the late '60s and the emerging heavy metal sound. It was avant-garde at the time and it was intentional.
  19. We all know "Led" was shortened by Page from "Lead" so as not to confuse the American audiance. Lead is a heavy metal, which of course, contrasts with the notion of a lighter-than-air zeppelin. The heavy-light contrast has been explicitly stated by Page as the essense of the music. From this perspective, Led Zeppelin was exemplifying the new heavy metal sound as a contrasting part of thier musical repertoire. So you can't say Led Zeppelin was only a heavy metal band but you can't deny they helped introduce the heavy metal sound to the world. This was by design! The roots of modern heavy metal music can certainly be traced back to songs like Dazed-n-Confused, Communication Breakdown, How Many More Times, etc. We don't normally think of these songs as heavy metal today, however, because the meaning of the term has changed from its roots in the late 60s.
  20. More from Allmusic.com: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:655 "For all its status as America's rebellion soundtrack of choice, heavy metal was largely a British creation. The first seeds of heavy metal were sown in the British blues movement of the '60s, specifically among bands who found it hard to adjust to the natural swing of American blues. The rhythms became more squared-off, and the amplified electric instruments became more important, especially with the innovations of artists like the Kinks, the Who, Jimi Hendrix, Cream, and the Jeff Beck Group. Arguably the first true metal band, however, was Led Zeppelin. Initially, Zep played blues tunes heavier and louder than anyone ever had, and soon created an epic, textured brand of heavy rock that drew from many musical sources."
  21. Great Wikipedia article on Heavy Metal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music "Creem critic Lester Bangs is credited with popularizing the term via his early 1970s essays on bands such as Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath.[54]" Heavy metal music started with Zep but evolved elsewhere after shedding its blues roots. In contemporary language, therefore, Led Zeppelin is not a heavy metal band.
  22. Yes, I think we all know Hendrix was a huge Dylan fan. But as mentioned, he also liked Zeppelin and Cream according to the interview I read. I don't remember his exact quote (maybe he 'dug' them) nor where I read it. I want to say it was a reprint in Rolling Stone magazine but I just don't know. I tried doing a search for it but came up empty. If I can find it, I'll copy it here or post a link.
  23. I remember reading a Hendrix interview where he said Cream and Led Zeppelin were two of his favorite bands. And there is Neil Young's Downtown: Jimi's playin' in the back room Led Zeppelin on stage There's a mirror ball twirlin' And a note from Page But I think this refers to a recording of Jimi playing backstage when Zeppelin was inducted into the R&R HoF.
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