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  1. I Find his playing very stiff on Shake My tree, a brutal song for my ears. The intro. riff sounds ridiculous to me, like Page is making fun of commercial metal or something. The riff on Prayer for the Dying is quite stiff as well, and kind of overly simple to me. I find his solos boring, not catchy. Take me for a little while has really cheesy, awful synth on it. It's like Page dropped his musical standards for that album. That's my take on it. It's musical taste, purely subjective. Anyone who finds it to be a great album could have insights for an interesting comparison. There you go.
  2. Hi Chicago, for me its not about trying to be modern, its about quality. I found the grunge and Britpop to be outstanding as a whole. I found hair/commercial metal/rock to be tired at that point. I can appreciate the effort it takes to put out an album, but to my ears, it sounded ridiculous, regardless of effort (with a couple of exceptions I have mentioned). I think if it was produced by Butch Vig (Nirvana),or Steve Albini (Pixies), it would have sounded a lot heavier, and much better. I found it interesting that Plant approached Page for the Unledded soon after that. It looks a lot to me like he stepped in to get Page away from that area of music.
  3. I think the commercial rock scene was overdone at that point, and the CP album seemed like overkill on that scene (to me). Even the hair metal bands had somewhat abandoned it. I found the grunge and Britpop to be way better music, new, and groovy. It wasn't stifled by heavy handed production like the CP album. I am surprised Page didn't want to pick up on that vital scene instead of the classic rock thing. Where I found it commercial is in the production, they went to Little Mountain in Vancouver, a very commercial studio of the day. It sounded like corporate rock to me. I found it cheesy in in song titles (Feeling Hot, Whisper a Prayer for the Dying, Shake My Tree). I also found Page's ideas cheesy. The guitar theme of Take Me For a Little While, the electric guitar entry in Pride and Joy that ripped off Dazed and Confused, and the lack of subtlety in the production are examples. I find his stiff playing cheesy as well. It's hard to see this as the same player that was on Satisfaction Guaranteed, such a relaxed, groove oriented song. He did find a groove on Don't Leave Me This Way, though, that was nice. JPJ got it right at that time, he teamed up with Diamanda Galas. That had some great results. I like most of the production on WIC. I know its a bit muddled, but I find that brought out more of the human element. The production on CP is too bright and obvious for me. That's just me though. I'd like to enjoy the album, it's Page! I just don't, that's all.
  4. Agreed here. A very heavy song, with none of the associated stereotypes, unlike Coverdale Page. I've seen many posts re. C/P being Page's best post Zep work. I don't see it. It's hard to get past what I see as the cheese factor. Absolution Blues starts as a total ripoff of In The Evening. That's so lame! Shake My Tree is from an unused Zep riff. I see why that is. To me, a silly riff with bad tone. The song also comes with over produced power chords, the kind of thing avoided by Page for many years. Take Me For a Little While sounds like a power ballad from a hair metal band to me.
  5. Hi Jahfin! I've never heard that one, but I know its been spoken of highly. Much as I found CP disheartening, I found things like The Window from the WIC sessions encouraging. The guitar is out there on that one! That's Page being weird, my favourite. To me, it's comparable to some of his work in The Firm.
  6. I agree, I don't see him as a Plant impersonator either. He seems to have his own style, I don't get the comparisons. Although I really despise the album, I can see a couple of areas where there was potential IMO. That song Easy Does it has brutal lyrics, but Page is really atmospheric on that. For me, its the best thing on there. Most of it just seems lobotomized to me. Very black and white, no grey area. Quiet, loud. The drum sound is very obtrusive, and too upfront, like most commercial rock at the time. I think Little Mountain studios killed the art in drumming, gave it a templated sound. A good example of that is Prayer for the Dying. I'm not into Whitesnake either, but I'd rather listen to Here I Go Again that any Coverdale/Page music.
  7. That was interesting to watch Deborah! I liked the musical intro. However, I consider that song to be the low point of his career. On CD, it strikes me as a silly riff, bad guitar tone, embarrasing lyrics (the "whoah" break sounds like KISS to me). This song may have been what got Plant to do Unledded, to rescue Page from that musical path. I don't get the CP CD. 72 tracks used for what? Derivative, cheesy rock. I was hugely dissapointed in it. I thought of it as far, far beneath him. But hey, its music, it's all subjective.
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