Page constantly states that he didn't want to put anything out there that had already been bootlegged or whatever. What Mr. Page fails to understand is the VAST majority of Zep fans own zero bootlegs. I know, the VAST majority of fans on this site DO own bootlegs, but almost every Zep fan I know owns none. Why not take some of the bootlegged stuff, polish it up a bit, and officially release it? Neil Young has his own site, neilyoungarchives.com FULL of stuff. Each week a new streaming concert. The ability to listen to all sorts of half baked attempts at songs. And he's constantly adding more stuff (unreleased albums, three this year). With Zep we get "oh gee it's been five years since I remastered the albums, a lot of new technology has come around since then, I'll remaster them again". I do agree that other bands have put our many hours of unheard music, and some of it is "meh" and some of it is "wow". There is no way Stairway was done in one or two takes, you could do like Dylan did with "like a Rolling Stone" where he released I think 50 attempts on the song in his archives. Oh well, I will stop ranting.

I recently saw 1977 Tour shirts at Wally World up here in the US. Kids were buying them right up! Had to have had Zep's blessing one would think.

Accoustic guitar wonderkid Marcin performs his full version of Kashmir. Pretty amazing, especially the dives!

It's def an interesting take. He starts out in Kashmir, but then does some EVH stuff and ends up in something I am not sure of! But he does have a super unique style with all that guitar slapping. At one point during the Kashmir notes it looks as though he has no fingers on the neck, so I am not sure how he got that Kashmir sound. Impressive!

It seems like this has already been out a year if I read the article correctly. At a time when artists like Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young are doing some incredible work, Page issues a spoken word album. If there was any doubt at all that he is all done as a musician, you can put that doubt safely to rest.

For me, the very early bootlegs that surfaced were the best. The feedback issues in the first songs only served to highlight how the band was going to just kept plowing along professionally until it got resolved. For me, the detuning of the songs and the lowering of Plant's vocal register was a bonus. But that's just me.

An interesting thread. I remember seeing LZ sales, and seeing that the two worst sellers were Presence and ITTOD. Of course, it's all personal opinion, but to me, weaker albums would be LZ3 and HOTH. But again, just personal opinion. But it got me to wondering, what IS it about ITTOD and Presence that made them somewhat unpalatable to the greater masses? I went back for a listen to both. For me Presence opens with a song that feels like it's going too fast, it never flows smooth, always feels like it's sort of struggling to keep up. Maybe it's the drums, I can't explain it, but it just doesn't feel right. From there, the album begins a pattern that will cover every other song except Tea For One and Candy Store Rock: songs built around a start and stop motif. It begins to make the songs sort of indistinguishable or at least too similar. Further, many of the songs aren't very happy sounding, nothing you would bring to a dance with your girl. The album ends with Tea For One, which to me, is Page's finest blues guitar work probably anywhere. The song itself is a bit too languid, Plant at times sounds like he's at a funeral, but Page's playing is extraordinary and so bluesy on this song. ITTOD opens with what I consider to be one of LZs finest songs. Every time I listen to it, I come to the same conclusion. I am also struck at how modern and airy the album sounds, although at times a little too clean and antiseptic. I couldn't stand Hot Dog when I first heard it, I was totally anti-country music. Listening to it now I am struck by how much fun they all seem to be having, amazing lyrics, and Plant's phrasing is stunningly good. Carouselambra starts off almost cringeworthy with the synthesizer opening, but has some excellent guitar parts. In reality, I feel like Carouselambra should have been maybe half as long and the album could have included Wearing and Tearing, making a very strong album. I get the sentiment behind All My Love, but it has to be one of the least Zeppelinesque songs I can think of, I usually skip it when listening to the album. I'm Gonna Crawl is a great way to end the album, Plant really belts out the lyrics and Page turns in a fine solo. So I'm an odd duck here, I don't really care for either of the album's long pieces. But to me both albums are quite strong, stronger than LZ3. Perhaps Presence was dogged by having to follow Physical Graffiti as well as the live album release close by. ITTOD received the benefit of being the first new Zep material in a few years, so there was pent up demand to help sales. I tend to like happier albums, so for me, ITTOD wins the match.

I follow Rick Beato on Youtube, and the day before Eddie Van Halen died, he put up this video. He pulled Page's solo out of STH, and then imagined how Eddie, Peter Frampton, or Eric Johnson would have done the solo.

Stunned. Just a freakin huge loss. Major talent. RIP Eddie.

Damned fine job gibsonfan159. I always thought Tour Over Europe got a bad rap. I personally felt it was some of their better work. How many 25 minute drum solos can a human take? Or 30 or 40 minutes of DAC? They sounded good in 80, they sounded stripped down and a bit punkish, if that was the goal. Stairway probably should have been dropped or reworked somehow, but you gotta give the crowd what they want I guess.

These lists are so subjective, but found it very interesting that Zep only had 74 studio songs (not including Coda). Anyway, here's this person's opinion. Warning: he's a Presence hater. https://www.vulture.com/2015/07/all-74-led-zeppelin-songs-ranked.html

I am a dabbler in Star Trek. But I saw one the other night, TNG, where Picard lives an entire nother life in the span of 20 minutes. It was absolutely some of the best TV I have seen in years, just so well acted, and the story was amazingly good, To realize that after a few years, he sort of gives up on being Picard, and concentrates on his wife on the planet and has a family...and then when he comes back and aches a bit for the life he left...just very well done TV.

Hard to believe the same guy who did "Maggie May" goes on to do crap like "Do You Think I'm Sexy". He sure had some hits though. His earlier stuff is way better.

What an astonishingly good album. RIP Greg. Thanks for the awesome music

Greg Allman....what a talent. Maybe he and Duane are jamming again ... RIP Greg. And thanks for the ride.

And clearly remains deferential to him to this day.

Bong-man, that's quite an undertaking! I find most of his Wings work quite listenable. As for Lennon and Double Fantasy, I honestly think if he hadn't been killed shortly after its release, it would have to be viewed as one of the most disastrous releases by a major artist in years. A complete piece of unmitigated dripping crap, honestly, it is hard to imagine an album by anyone that is worse than Double Fantasy. Well, maybe Milk and Honey comes pretty close.

No one??

Face Dances: man Another Tricky Day for me is one of their best. And Did You Steal My Money is pretty good too. Face Dances all around was pretty good.

I was totally unaware that Plant and Johnstone had a falling out...any media on it? I just wish Page had said something along the lines of "during my career I've worked with many musicians, and David was another that I worked with" or something....instead it's like "oh jeez, I better be careful what I say around Robert or he will walk".

So RP doesn't think much of Phil Johnstone, is that what he is saying? this may come across as harsh, but my God is Page a pussy when it comes to defending someone like Coverdale, when it might offend Plant.

Huge loss..... The duckwalk, and that inspired playing that was a cross of country and hard blues, like nothing before. RIP Mr Berry

When we talk about the activity after the LZ disbanding, don't forget XYZ. How quickly Page jumped right back in, didn't some of the rehearsals take place in 1980, so only a few months after Bonzo passing?

I've often wondered just how proactive JP was. His first choice was Terry Reid, who says "can't do it, but check out this chap in Band of Joy", Page goes to see him and says OK. Wait, this is a big deal, you're forming a band and the expectations are pretty big...wouldn't you want to check out a few more vocalists while you're at it? It's not gonna hurt anything to listen to a few more.... Then RP says "take Bonzo as the drummer". Again, a complete unknown, and you check out no one else. Not very proactive. Admittedly, it all worked out smashingly, but IMO Page seems the type to be led to decisions, not set out to make them.

Man you speak a whole different language, lol! I am guessing that punters are people who are looking for a cheap deal, wankers are bad people, to nick someone is to undercut their price, pitches are tents, and bob is a form of currency!