Chicklets, lots and lots of Chicklets.

Kimchee will turn one into a Nazi every time...an ass Nazi that is. The super hot variety is quite unpleasant, um, post-digestion.

That's it, you have solved the mystery!!! He had a spoiled groupie! You consume one of those past the expiration date and you will WISH you had a bad piece of pork! That is what I call a BAD clam!!!

From the pictures of that night shown in Neal Preston's book Sound & Fury I would conclude he was "dusted," that is to say, Angel Dust. Some asshole probably mixed it with the coke. The real irony is though until the sickness kicked in during Ten Years Gone, apart from the Sick Again segue he played amazingly brilliant, almost possessed according to a friend of mine that attended this show.

I agree about Rush but the difference between The Eagle & Rush is night and day. The Eagles do country-rock / pop IMO and I do like their music, but when I see them live they always left me cold, just boring and lifeless. The only bright spot was Joe Walsh and whenever he got to "lively" Glenn Frey would shoot him the look and Joe would get back in line so to speak. Rush on the other hand is prog rock to me and have complex arrangements as it is, plus they engage the audience in banter and always seem to be having fun. I have seen Rush more times than any other band and I have never been either bored or disappointed. I love RUSH!!!

^ Yep, improv every time. If I want note for note I will go to an Eagles concert...best sleep of my life.

Just trying to clear the air, sorry if I hurt your feelings.

^ Exactly, some people have class whereas others are simply bitter, old men.

Nope, I don't give Bonham a pass at all. He was a troubled person and I have said as much on this board several times. He does not get a pass and IMO if he were in my band, regardless of success, the first time he pulled physical violence on anyone he would be gone. His bad attitude would have been enough for me as well, would have told him to grow the fuck up and act like an adult otherwise I would have fired him from the band around 71' or 72' when he was really beginning to be an asshole, or as they so endearingly called him, The Beast. Your opinion on Clapton being distinctly different style wise from Gilmour, well, I guess you need to read a few interviews with Gilmour buddy because he has said in several interviews how Clapton was his main influence and that he pretty much copied his style. Of course he is not so much in the blues vein compared to Clapton but the style is virtually the same, the main difference is instead of playing standard pentatonic based runs Gilmour uses Dorian & Mixolydian modes to give his solos a jazzier feel.

I am not a big fan of DM either, but I would not call it shit. The music and arrangement of the song I really love, but Plant's lyrics are just inane and that Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh part makes me want to bury my head in a fat ladies ass. Now that is just my opinion. I think if the lyrics were a bit different and Robert sang it differently it would have been great. Than again, the song was supposed to be a parody of sorts and thus in that vein it succeeds, either way, I can only listed to Weird Al once in a blue moon. If I heard Weird Al on the radio all the time I would shoot myself. So, to the new guy, it's ok to say you don't like a particular song, but it is uncool to downright call it shit since that statement is absolute rather than subjective.

Sorry bud, that dog don't hunt. No one is better than anyone else, maybe more talented, more driven, but that does not excuse bad behavior. I have played in several bands and I tell you this, what John Lennon said was 100% spot on when asked the Ringo Star vs. Pete Best question. If Neal Peart wanted to join my band and he turned out to be an asshole I would can his ass in a second for a second rate drummer the band can get along with. Just like Ginger Baker, no matter how talented someone is, at the end of the day the other musicians will only take so much shit before they either walk, fire him, or beat the shit out of him. No one earns the right to bad behavior! Regarding Clapton, I don't find him very versatile at all, in fact his playing is downright boring and he never attempted the multiple styles Page did. Now Gilmore, who plays in a very similar style to Clapton is a versatile player and an exciting player, why, because unlike Clapton he pushed himself and took chances. Clapton is a one-trick pony if there ever was one.

Love Rush and have seen them several times form 85' to the present which brings me to my one and only question: Has Rush EVER played a bad concert or even had an off night? Every show I saw they were red hot. The only chink in their armor I ever witnessed was at a show sometime in the mid 90's, 94' or 95' I think. Geddy Lee was trying to sing in his upper register and his voice kept cracking and generally giving out. He was really trying and the harder he tried the worse it became. The next time (and every time since) I saw them he was singing in a lower register and sang perfectly, no more strain. I think like most singers of that type he finally realized that he could not sing like he could and finally accepted it. What do you think?

Boba was a great character they killed off in a very shitty way. He was a badass that was done in like an extra from a Three Stooges episode...WTF? Yoda? If he was such a nimble little troll why did he fake it and walk around like a fucking gimp all the time? Was it to get those choice parking spaces? Was he really on the dole milking the system like some green welfare queen? I never trusted Yoda after I saw that scene with Duku.

Oui, un mauvais jour en effet!

The French and British fought several proxy wars in the America's over several decades. The most well know is the Seven Years War, or as we in the states refer to it, the French Indian Wars. These were fought from 1754 to 1763, I know, it's nine years but who's counting right? Anyway, the French in Quebec, which was about three times it's present size than and encompassed what is now Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Northern Ohio, and part of Minnesota, were doing pretty damn good against the English (Mohawk & Creek allies of the French were some of the meanest most viscous fighters around, made Apaches look like pussies, and they ate their vanquished enemies too) until, like the Confederates during the Civil War, ran out of supplies and men. The British than pretty much kicked their asses and captured Montreal in 1760. As part of the peace treaty France gave up all holdings in North America to the crown, the war debt bankrupted both countries which later caused the American & French Revolutions. That there is the real irony, the British fought for the American colonies causing an enormous war debt, than raised taxes in the colonies to pay for the war which saved the colonies ass, and the Americans turn around and rebel, sticking England with the tab. That is some funny shit, it would be like taking a lady out to dinner, getting in a fight to defend her honor and busting up the bar in the process. The bar owner wants you to pay 50% of the damage and when you turn around to ask her for some cash she kicks you in the balls and runs off with the guy you just beat up to protect her from. Classic!!!

I think it can be a good and useful tool when used correctly, that is to keep in touch and possibly network, to make new friends and interact with people thousands of miles away one would normally never meet. Unfortunately it has mostly brought out the worst in many people, isolated millions to a virtual world, and turned this latest generation into a group who must be connected 24/7. It truly saddens me to go to a restaurant or a concert and see couples texting or making video instead of interacting with each other and immersing themselves in the moment. You rarely see people live in the moment, taking in the world around them, and being comfortable within their own skin, with their own thoughts; instead most around us have a phone plastered to their skull or are wildly texting their status on Facebook or tweeting "just took a shit...Paris Hilton has the mud-butt in the stall next to me...YOLO!!!" I watch Revolution on Monday night (well, the season ended so not anymore) which is about a near future where the earth has lost all power and thus most technology, everything has descended into chaos, and a semi-tribal society has taken the place of government (ok TypeO, quit salivating, I doubt this will happen). Anyway, in this dystopian future people are once again talking to each other and living in the moment. Not saying this is a better environment than present day, however this is a lesson that we need to step back a bit, quit relying so exclusively on technology (irony...as I type this on my Mac), and directly interact with friends and family once again. So yes, I use Facebook, but in a very limited manner. I rarely post and I keep it mostly to see what my extended family and friends are up to.

Um, excuse me...did someone call for a Haz Mat team??? Damn, I love how Robert looked then just because it is so 1985. Him and the guy from Mr. Mister were sharing stage clothes I believe Anyway, Jimmy was not "smacked out" during most of the 80's, he kicked in late 83' or early 84'. He still drank and did blow but, to my knowledge, never rode the horse again.

Hey Kenog, yep, that is what I thought. Steve was making some very interesting posts on the New Pope thread and I thought he did mention he was a catholic but I may be mistaken. Sorry Steve if you are not a catholic. However, it is a real shame some people can get away with just about anything and still be considered blameless in the eyes of certain people. In a civilized society we do not randomly beat people up for no reason, hell even if there is a reason that is no excuse. You go through the proper channels, you do not take the law into your own hands...especially without the facts. Bindon, Cole, Grant = Guilty.

Steve, I was simply making a comment regarding contrition, or lack thereof. As a good Catholic I a sure you can understand that point. In regards to kicking someones ass, according to the article you posted above, they guy they almost beat to death was not even the perpetrator of the initial crime...that guy got kicked in the balls by Bonham. Further, the varying accounts of what happened between Barsotti and Warren Grant, the worst case scenario has Barsotti slapping the boy and the best case has him giving the little thieving magpie a simple dressing down. I am not saying I believe a child should be smacked by an adult but if that was indeed what happened I think a nice kick in the balls was a good payback for a single smack. Instead, the doped up Bindon, Cole, & Grant proceeded to beat the shit out of a guy who had nothing to do with it. I don't know about you but if some guy hit my kid I would not go up to his second cousin twice removed and beat the crap out of him. I mean how fucked up can you be that you don't even beat up the right guy? If I were Plant and Jones I would have walked then and there, see ya and thanks for the memories. So if you like him fine, he may be a real swell guy, a regular charmer these days, but for me I require a bit more, you know, like a simple I AM SORRY.

I have to say from a purely professional level I have zero respect for Mr. Cole post 75'. As the tour manager he had two choices, do his damn job or quit, anything else is but an excuse. He was in charge of the road show, not Grant, that is what Grant and other managers hire tour managers for otherwise why even suffer the expense? Sure, Grant was in bad shape, but IMO Cole simply became a parasite post 75', enjoying the party favors while ignoring his responsibility. It was his job to keep the show on the road working well, managing all details and looking after the individual band members. Was he completely to blame? Of course not, but the fact cannot be denied he was hired to do a job and for two years he took the cash, enjoyed the lifestyle, and did fuck all as a tour manager. I am glad he has gotten his life together, but he further exploited the band with his STH bullshit book. He reminds me of the convicted killer who claims remorse for slaughtering an entire family, but since he has found Jesus thinks he should be released. That dog just don't hunt for me. If I am coming across as harsh, so be it, I deal with addiction on a daily basis with clients and I know the story, same one every time. If anyone wishes to appreciate this guy that is your prerogative, but the shit that happened at Oakland ( and other places) was on his watch, his responsibility. Unless I missed that chapter in STH or other print media, I never heard him apologize for not doing his job and allowing a man to be almost beaten to death. Until he claims responsibility, there is nothing to appreciate.

^ Yep, Peart respects and likes the fans but is a very private person. He just cannot understand why a person connects appreciation of musical talent with the individual on an intimate level. I kind of agree, to a point. I love the Zeppelin chaps but if I saw them in person I would be very reticent to approach, I would feel that I was invading their privacy. The most I could do is possibly amble over, say hi and that I appreciate their talent and contribution, wish them well and walk away. Now if they engaged me at that point, well, you have just opened the flood gates...game on!!!

Afternoon Delight & Muskrat Love!!! Two greatest tunes of all time!!!

Ohhhh...Jesus Christ!!! You ladies are on a mission, good news is Robert being 64 can't run as fast as he used to. Go get em ladies

They were both going in similar directions regarding their evolving technique, though Bonham approached it sooner. You can really notice a change in Bonham's style with Presence, especially in HOFN & RO, the former utilizing a modified Purdie shuffle & jazz beats while the later a New Orleans jazz beat. Once you get to ITTOD he combined the beat patterns of HOFN & RO for Fool in the Rain. Again a modified (but different from HOFN) Purdie shuffle, the samba break, and back to the shuffle pattern. Neil would start using similar patterns in the 90's and move in a more jazz direction. I truly believe had Bonham lived he would have moved even further into jazz (Copeland's style is very jazz) and the music Zeppelin would have produced could have been very dynamic indeed!

Oh, I thought you meant Saxon as in the peoples who moved out of Germanic - Frankish lands during the late fifth century and settled into modern day England. My bad.