grandmeaulne
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Thanks for the additional photos David.....really cool and I've never seen those particular shots before.
Neat story, thanks.
I'm curious about one thing. When Jimmy fell ill, how did the crowd react when it was announced the show was cancelled?
Were people refunded? Or did the promoter argue that since they played for an hour, their contractual obligation to perform was met?
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Hey AlexKx, I have no problem with capitalism AT ALL. I'm all for it. Otherwise I wouldn't have spent a fortune going to the O2, spending $45 on a t-shirt etc. I just find that when Gene Simmons admits he doesn't care about his own music, his musicianship or his rock and roll band, but only cares about the money he makes from it, it makes his musical legacy far less interesting, that's all.
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Nothing like a bus trip from Detroit Metropolitan Airport to the Silverdome and a ninety minute delay to take the wind out of one's sails.
True, but don,t you agree that when a show gets that big, and given what we know of the band's state of mind in 77, they just didn't have it in them half the time?
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I believe in my heart that anyone who gets up there and says what they're doing is art is on crack, and is delusional, and that in point of fact, what they really ... their modus operandi initially -- perhaps it changed when they started to question their sexuality, but clearly, initially -- it was to get laid and make lots of money. And anybody who tells you otherwise is lying to you.
The majority of people who become artists and musicians will barely make enough to make ends meet. Success stories are extremely rare. Such comments from Gene Simmons should be seen as an insult to every artistic creator in the world. And I doubt Jimmy would appreciate that someone of Gene's stature would say someting so derogatory towards other musicians.
It reminds me of a similar comment made by Neil Schon of Journey, when asked about a similar marketing approach to his music, and his answer was, "who cares, I'm laughing all the way to the bank..."
I'm not sure we'd have kept our devotion the Zeppelin intact if Jimmy or Robert behaved in such a way during the past 30 years.
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I don't understand why all the negitive responses directed towards Kiss.
Many of the previous posts have nothing to do with the original post,which personally
I thought was nothing but complimentary towards Jimmy.
Yes, he was very nice to Jimmy and Zep. But while Kiss did make some great entertainment for which they obviouysly worked very hard, their musical legacy doesn't compare to Zeppelin's. My biggest problem with Stanley is how he and Simmons marketed their music to the point where the music itself is lost deep under the hype. Or worse, it was adapted to match the marketing of derivative products.
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It's interesting how it's written-up. Fans described as "nice" and the band portrayed as arrogant and going through the motions. I wonder how accurate that is. I listened to the bootleg and I didn't think they played with much passion that night.
I was never a fan of stadium shows. I remember seeing the Stones in Buffalo in 1981, and figured that you went to these for the "event", and not to walk-away with any musical moments.
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"Questionable artistic value?" This nonsense comes from the whole myth of "credibility." I call it a myth because all that matters is the sound coming out of the speakers. Kiss's first few albums were full of exciting, catchy hard rock (a lot of it more complex than the material on Zeppelin's first two albums, if that's your criteria); "artistic value" in music is a bit of a self-defeating term, because everyone has different tastes, and what's not good to you might be fantastic to someone else.
Well, you're a Kiss fan, and you feel attacked in your tastes, that's fine with me. I own a few Kiss albums (Alive, Alive 2, Destroyer etc) and I even enjoyed them live in the good old days. But I would never put them into the same league as Led Zeppelin, that's all. As far as I'm concerned, Kiss never broke any grounds musically, no matter how good they may have been.
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I am die hard fan of Simmons and Stanley so I just think it is great to hear one of their points of views. I certainly consider them far more intelligent than most human beings and have nothing but the deepest respect for them for that.
I have no respect for Kiss or their opinions. Led Zeppelin combined their intelligence to elevate rock music to new heights in talent, creativity, musicianship, songwriting and intensity.
Kiss used theirs to dumb-down rock music and turn it into a cheap, disposable product of questionable artistic value.
To put Paul Stanley in the same sentence as Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page is like throwing Lyndsay Lohan along with Joni Mitchell and Janis Joplin.
A Stormtrooper's Easter! Led Zeppelin: Live in Chicago 4/10/77
in Led Zeppelin Live
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It's funny but I've heard the story of his collapse over and over again, and it's the first time someone actually "takes me there". Thanks for the additional info. Did you ask for your refund, or did you just keep your ticket stub?