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  1. What I don't understand is how they are so much better for instance on 6/21 at the Forum than most other nights. It's like they decided it was time to play a great show and did it. I just can't understand the ups and downs of this tour. It MUST have been the drugs. I still think, however, that generally the 69-72 era was THE era for Zep. But listening to "Listen to this Eddie" makes me a believer of later Zep.
  2. I knew they were going to play more shows, but I'm surprised they're playing in June...awesome though.
  3. I've never understood the "metal" label. I believe this label is more of a result of Robert Plant's singing voice, and possibly lyrical content, than anything else. They were and are far too versatile to be considered just a "metal" band. I feel that the genre of metal has very strict boundaries which are far to restrictive to contain even a small percentage of Zeppelin's songs. Led Zeppelin took in a lot of different influences. I think at their heart they were generally a heavy rock band with various influences, but especially two, being the blues and, though people ignore it, old English folk. Even seemingly non-folk songs like Kashmir and The Song Remains the Same include definite folk elements. While seemingly non-blues songs like The Ocean or Trampled Underfoot contain definite blues elements. I think the only song that mostly defies the boundaries of hard-rock-blues(funk too?)-folk is Achilles Last Stand. Funnily enough I believe it to be the only Zep song covered by the whole of Dream Theater--not my taste. You could also say D'Yer Mak'er, but that's a one off and not in my opinion one of Zep's finer moments. So there you go...
  4. Osaka 9/29/71 SB/AUD Matrix This is an amazing show. Get it in your collection. The mix of this can be sketchy at times, but the playing is absolutely top notch. There are some not-so-great parts. Black Dog was obviously new - though played tight, Jimmy is still getting things right. The drums are LOUD on some of the sources. You can hear Bonham's comments during the show, which are great. He sings some of the background vocals on Twist and Shout. And he does one of the greatest count ins ever, "Zeppelin Zeppelin, Louder...2-3-4" and bam, Immigrant Song. Very highly recommended.
  5. I bet you they meet up this month and all decide that they shouldn't have met up and won't play any more gigs or do anything else.... *sarcasm
  6. I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this but I'm excited enough to post... My Dad is a successful musician who just played a private party for a very major promoter of a very big country. He told me that the management of the artist he plays with, and the promoters at the party, were all in agreement that after the members of Zeppelin finish pursuing their own stuff throughout a majority of 2007, that the current form of Led Zeppelin will indeed play a bunch of shows. I hate hearing unsubstantiated rumors like this myself, and I hear lots of them. I promise you I would not post this unless I heard something rather legitamate from a very legitamate source. That said, we should only believe what is said officially. What I have heard should only tell us that there IS tour talk, and that it IS being discussed very seriously at the highest levels.
  7. Nothing we're talking about is intended to "take away" from the great performance they gave us. It is however interesting in finding out what happend.
  8. The whole end is a mess. IF they had a pre-planned cue for going into the E-D-A E-G part, Jimmy missed it and started it late. This is heard through the fact that Bonham is hitting the cymboles in the correct place without the hits from Jimmy. They do however salvage this and start playing together. But then all hell breaks loose when Bonham does this "weird" fill. Well that weird fill, which occured during the performance over the riff on the B, was, I believe, supposed to go over the E-D-A E-G part! This John Bonham did in a number of shows (HTWWW? I'm too lazy to get it from my car right now). Thus Jason thought that part went on longer than it did during the show, either by mistake or some kind of miscommunication stemming from the first time Jimmy is late coming in. Frankly, it is hard to tell from this poor recording. No disrespect to the taper, as I can completely understand the circumstances.
  9. I asked this question in the Best Boots topic. Forum member "pippin," who kicks ass btw for responding so graciously, wrote this in response to the same question: This is a very interesting subject. I have recordings from 22 Dec 72 London and 15 Jan 73 Stoke and Plant's style and range is vastly different. His sound in Dec 72 is pretty good, recordings from the October Japanese tour show his voice to go from very strong to slightly strained - Over the Hills and Far Away is a good song to judge the strength of his voice due to the many higher register vocal lines. I have read some reviews of bootlegs in between the ones I have from Jan 2 - Jan 14 1973. I think they help in finding out what happened to his voice: Jan 2 City Hall Sheffield UK "Plant goes mute! From the beginning it is pretty apparent that something is very wrong with his voice and it's really painful to hear him even trying to sing! The flu has taken its vengeance! He's just caught it hitchhiking to Sheffield and the next two dates will be cancelled. The amazing audience doesn't seem to mind anyway! (In Since I've Been Loving You) heard for the first time as an instrumental while Plant narrates it! The same happens with Dazed and Confused which becomes a completely new experience without Plant! Jan 7, New Theatre, Oxford, UK " Plant has recovered enough to wander again through the increasingly powerful instrumental machinery. His fluctuating vocals break constantly and he's forced to do strange and funny arrangements" Jan 14, The Empire, Liverpool, UK "Although Plant's voice is partially recovered, all the weight of the performance still lies in the power of the instrumental section" It seems that the rigours of touring, cigarettes and lengthy sets didn't give Plant much chance at recovering his voice. Maybe the experience of hardly being able to sing on stage encouraged him to change his style - more use of effects (delay/ doubling) to thicken his voice as assistance from the mixer. Interestingly, the audiences don't seem to mind and this must have some effect on his decisions. (Quotes taken from "Led Zeppelin Live" - by Luis Rey - a great addition to the collectors reference material)
  10. I like 73 and 75 boots... but with all due respect, what happened to Plant's voice between 72 and 73? I mean listen to HTWWW and then listen to Southampton onwards. This change is also very apparent between Rock and Roll in Australia in 72 and Rock and Roll in TSRTS. I'm sure you Zeppelin experts have already discussed this issue, but as a newcomer this seems the best place to ask. Also btw, the video footage of Australia on the DVD is great. Are there any good quality bootlegs of any of the shows in the Australia/New Zealand tour in 72?
  11. I'm sure there is more stuff out there. New stuff still does come out every once in a while. I have a bunch of boots, including 4/27/69 San Francisco, 9/29/71 Osaka, The Whiskey 69, 9/19/70 New York, and Texas Int Pop Festival. And out of all of them I think that Montreux 3/7/70 is the best as far as sound quality, and it is a great performance too. I've had to remaster the other boots myself, such as 4/27/69 to bring out the bass, or to bring out Robert's voice in Osaka. I guess for me out of all of these early shows that have such well known and highly regarded bootlegs, Montreux deserves special comment. Just thought I'd add in my two cents.
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