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Physical Graffiti - SIngle LP version(?)
NealR2000 replied to dpat's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Every LZ album commenced with what I would describe as an "impact song". As beautiful as Bron-Yr-Aur is, it would never be a starter. -
The change in Robert Plants singing.
NealR2000 replied to strombringer101's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
In Peter's defense, he always made it clear that he left the band to focus on their music, and he took care of everything else. -
The change in Robert Plants singing.
NealR2000 replied to strombringer101's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Vocals are the toughest instrument of all. Anyone else can have a bad night and it isn't so noticeable ... at least not as noticeable as a shot voice. Stinking cold. Bronchitis. The flu. Unless it's at the passing-out point, anyone but the singer can usually tough it out for a show. Even at Jimmy's worst, he could usually grind out a performance. On top of this, a singer, when on a long tour, has to protect the vocals chords, knowing there about 30 shows ahead of him. You might feel great one night, get a little too enthusiastic, and find out the next morning when you wake up that your voice is shot and needs 3 days to get back in shape. Too bad, you've got a big show before then and to cancel it will piss of the fans and cost a fortune in refunds. -
Yes, that Atlantic Reunion didn't stand a chance. Huge row over Stairway, as well as Zep getting delay after delay on a start time. Nerves (for Page) were resolved with alcohol, and the additional time meant a lot more alcohol. They were awful.
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What happened to Plant's voice in 1972 ?
NealR2000 replied to SolitudeIsBliss's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
The male voice not only gets deeper during adolescence where there's a rapid change, but it also tends to deepen very gradually throughout life. I'm no expert on why this second phase of voice deepening occurs, but I suspect it's due to wear and tear of ones vocal chords. Now add to that, the life of a professional singer, and add further to that, a professional singer like Plant, who in his younger years, really sang his lungs out. -
There was definitely a big difference in Page between the P&P 95 and 98 tours. In the former, Page was still drinking, evident by that bloated puffy look. By the latter tour, he looked much healthier, not to mention playing sharper (and doing all the guitar work alone).
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I know that there were indirect arguments between the band members on the 77 US tour. On this tour, "jobs" were given the members of the extended family members of the Bonham and Plant families as favors. The problem was, these family members didn't take their work too seriously and assumed it was a drunken funfest, not appreciating that fuzzy zone between family and work. Apparently, Jimmy would get angry and sack them, only to have the issue smoothed over later in the day. I think that if there were actual issues between band members, it was dealt with on an intermediary basis via Grant, with the best known example in the early days where Jimmy got Bonzo to not play so loud.
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I've seen a number of these fly-on-the-wall scenes, as well as read many, where bands come off stage and get into sometimes heated arguments over mistakes made during the performance. I don't recall reading anything about similar happenings with Zep. Does anyone know any different? On one hand, I suspect there were some, as Zep live wasn't always great, but on the other hand, I'm not so sure as the one at "fault" was invariably Page, and what with his position, I'm not sure any of the others would say anything. Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of the others were in awe of Page or intimidated by him, but I just don't see any of them challenging his musicianship.
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Robert's dad and mum...completely erased?
NealR2000 replied to duckman's topic in Pre / Post-Zeppelin Forum
There's about as much out there about Robert's parents as there is about any of his peers parents. Very little. Some deep searching will reveal a few photos. As for his relationship with his father, you must appreciate what post war Britain was like. Robert, despite his good education, dropped out of the expected career path, grew his hair, began dating an Indian girl, and chose the life of a musician. In 1960s provincial Britain, this was sheer madness and caused a serious estrangement with his parents. When success came, naturally things worked out. -
The most telling moment of the O2 show was after it ended. Three of them went backstage to bask in the glory, celebrating with families, friends, guests, etc. Plant left immediately. He had his driver take him to a very modest kebab restaurant where I'm sure he thought about what he had just done. He'd done it. Sang Stairway, even. Surely this would finally shut the masses up now.
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It was well filmed. A great performance. It is the only way the millions of fans can enjoy it. Even a handful of additional shows would have been impossible for all but the very lucky to see. Be grateful for what we got. It was way more than we thought we would ever get.
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The Trouble with Bonham. 1978-80
NealR2000 replied to strombringer101's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Not particularly scientific, but from his look and appearance, I'd say he got clean sometime between Page & Plant's 94 and 98 tours. I have no doubt that he had kicked the junk long before, but was still heavily drinking to at least the 94 tour, where he had the look of a drinker. By 98, and now doing guitar duties alone, he looked, and played, terrific. -
New Jimmy Page Biography Released
NealR2000 replied to mysticman560's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
As private a person as Jimmy tries to be, I just can't see anything to write about that hasn't already been put out. Whether it's artist Jimmy or the debauched Jimmy, it's all been said already. -
The Song Remains the Same - Upcoming screenings
NealR2000 replied to sam_webmaster's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
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Whats up with Keith Richards on LZ?
NealR2000 replied to weapon2010's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Just to add to the reasons, if you have listened to a lot of the famous musicians from that same era, you get a lot of snide remarks about Zep. They have mellowed a lot these days, but many of their interviews from the past had some Zep bashing in them. I always thought that money was by far the biggest reason. Many of these famous musicians, even the Stones and the Who, got royally ripped off in the old days, coming back from grueling tours with not a lot to show for it. Meanwhile, Zep were breaking records and drowning in cash thanks to the ways of Peter Grant. I can't help but think that this affected their peers, who in their resentment, shot back with words like shrieking, bombastic, vulgar, loud, pompous, etc. -
Whats up with Keith Richards on LZ?
NealR2000 replied to weapon2010's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Also, as a Brit, I suspect there was an element of north v south snobbery in terms of how Richards felt about Plant and Bonham. It was a big deal in the 60s/70s, where Londoners particularly had this view of anyone from "the north", which back then was anywhere north of Watford, as being unsophisticated and stupid. This was a general view but probably more acute in the music scene. -
Whats up with Keith Richards on LZ?
NealR2000 replied to weapon2010's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
Two reasons why. 1. Richards is from the Chuck Berry style of rock and roll. There is a small amount of musical crossover to Zep, but for the most part, they are very different. 2. The rest is all about money, ego, concert grosses, record sales, etc. -
Normally, I have my cell phone ringer muted when I'm in the office, but I neglected to do that today and my phone rang. I took me a few seconds to get to it, but in the meantime, the office got a blast of the first 15 seconds of When the Levee Breaks. I work in a pretty conservative environment but nonetheless, I got several positive comments and looks of approval from co-workers. When I decided to pick a tune for my ringtone, I looked at all the Zep tracks and came to the conclusion that WTLB was the best, what with that amazing Bonham beat. Does anyone else here use a Zep tune for their ringtone, and if so, which one?
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Touring was a cash business in those days and Zep were breaking records. Grant needed to make sure that he did all the collecting and expense payments. I think he trusted Cole, but only so much.
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Led Zeppelin in the months following Bonzo's passing
NealR2000 replied to ThreeSticks's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
With the assistance of hindsight, I have no doubt that there were varying degrees of decisions by each of the four surviving decision makers. I'm sure Plant was flat-out firm in his decision to call it quits. At the other end was probably Grant, who saw the fortune they would be walking away from. I think it was the Grant angle that fueled replacement drummer chatter. JPJ was probably his typical indifferent self, probably saying he would go with whatever decision was made. Page was probably somewhere between Grant and Plant, but probably more focused on scoring smack. -
Eddie kramer talkin' bout Zeppelin
NealR2000 replied to blindwillie127's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
I think old Eddie's mind is playing tricks with him. I was around at the time in the UK and there were no Percy Plant TV character. The whole Percy Thrower and Percy's Progress connection was well publicized in the 70s. If anyone hasn't researched Percy Progress, the sex romp is all about this man called Percy who ends up being the only sexually fertile man in the world, and the Govt try to get him to single handedly re-populate the world. -
Eddie kramer talkin' bout Zeppelin
NealR2000 replied to blindwillie127's topic in Led Zeppelin Master Forum
It was total British humor. It was a combination of the well-known British TV gardener, Percy Thrower (Plant-Gardening) plus a British sex-romp movie of the time, Percy's Progress. There was a whole slew of these sex-romp movies during this period, most famously "Confessions of a Window Cleaner". Percy's Progress (look it up) was an apt link to Plant's tour life. -
Little Things You Don't Like About Led Zeppelin?
NealR2000 replied to MortSahlFan's topic in Led Zeppelin Newbies
You have to remember that there was a huge wave of androgyny among top music acts, particularly the Brit ones, and society as a whole during the 70s. Jagger, Bowie, Stewart, Elton John, Queen, etc. Mascara was universally worn. -
Typically, at this point in the proceedings, with the plaintiff having made most of his case, and the defendants still yet to respond with theirs, the overwhelming perceptions should be an easy win for the plaintiff. I simply don't feel that this is the vibe, and that if anything, the vibe is between even and slightly on the side of the band. With them still yet to respond, I can't help but think that they will make a pretty compelling case for the verdict to go in their favor. I'm sure that the band's legal bill will be high, but with their most famous song at stake, this is more than about money and more about their reputations.
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